A shopping center by any other name

May 30, 2007
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I've got news on The Shoppes at Providence at Old Meridian, a new mixed-use project in Carmel. But first, a question: What's the deal with the name? And second: What suggestions do you have for even more pretentious ones? How about Ye Olde Shoppes at Providence at Towne Centre at the Crossing? Shoppes at ProvidenceOK, on to the news. The new residential-over-retail project is set to open soon with a Dattolo's Italian Restaurant, When Eddie Met Salad and Brockway Irish Pub. The project, developed by Buckingham Cos., is northeast of Old Meridian and 126th streets, across the street from Meijer. Other tenants include Bekah's Salon & Spa, a pilates studio and a sub shop.
  • i agree that the name is a bit much, although i like the tie-in to a local name - old meridian. there are many great developments built or in the works but have names taken from elsewhere: gramercy, lincoln park place, etc. we have our own great history that should be remembered/represented. anyway, i love this project! i have seen it up close and believe it to be first class. nice detailing in the brickwork, mixed-use (the best kind of development!) and it's bringing more character to that section of carmel. it's also tying in the providence (proper) development to the streetscape. glad to see when eddie met salad going in - local flavor...i've not heard of the other restaurants, but nice to see even if they are a chain, something new. love the current rash of development like this in carmel and am excited about the completion of these. reminds me of chicagoland a bit. smarter, more compact development (i'm a broad-ripplite) is the direction this city and country should be going in. it creates sense-of-place and gets us out of our cars and on foot. less gas, more fitness. not to mention we might actually get to know our neighbors!
  • i guess i forgot to submit a name suggestion for these developments...but first, what's with the old english spelling all the time - shoppes? centre? towne? the next thing we know, we'll all be noshing on fish and chips on our afternoon commutes (actually, that wouldn't be such a bad thing!). anyway, how about sir buckingham's shoppes of northland indianapolis proper at merry olde meridian
  • ...sorry, it's the best i could do...
  • Very well done, Ryan!

    On another note... Nora Northside would have fought this tooth and nail, making their neighbors believe what a TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE it would cause!
  • BTW.. it's a fantastic development. It's almost scary how easy it is to design good development.
  • Its very sad when Carmel is getting better development than Indianapolis. Like Anonymous said, the Nora psychos would have fought this to the death. I'm sure even the downtown neighborhood associations would say this project is too dense. Indianapolis says they are the 12th largest city, but acts like the 112th.
  • Bravo Ryan,

    Took the words out of my mouth. Can you imagine if a dev tried to go 4-5 stories on the BR strip?! What a scary nightmare that'd be!! All those young people walking around with $$ in their pockets!! More value on the tax roles! Maybe even money to clean up the strip!! OMG The Horror!!

    BRVA is just as bad if you ask me.
  • I think the Medicine Shoppe got everything going years ago in the states well before developments were named after panthers, ridges and birds with large wing spans (Florida stuff.....)
  • I'm going with:

    The Grande Olde Shoppes and Theatre Centre of Carmel'

    I just hope there's an Applebee's, a Pier One and a Starbucks...
  • Mary is correct. As 'war on terror' is an oblique platitude--World class city, one neighborhood at a time at Indy's borders is as equally meaningless. From my government tv observations it's all too apparent that the layered zoning and planning agencies are so obsessed with the angle of a propsed reconstructed 'eve' that they end up retarding not just good development----any development !
  • I agree Brad. I find it tough to find anything world class or even nearing that level in Indianapolis. The city government, McANA and city planners all are fighting a war on urbanism and it doesn't look like they are putting their arms down anytime soon.
  • Ivo- agreed. The BRVA is JUST as bad as the Nora gang. They killed Conrad Cortellini's project on the basis of density (a whole five condos -wow) and parking... in Broad Ripple. Give me a break.

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  1. I had read earlier this spring that Noodles & Co was going to open in the Fishers Marketplace (which is SR 37 and 131st St, not 141st St, just FYI). Any word on that? Also, do you happen to know what is being built in Carmel at Pennsylvania and Old Meridian? May just be an office building but I'm not sure.

  2. I'm sorry, but you are flat out wrong. There are few tracks in the world with the history of IMS and probably NO OTHER as widely known and recognized. I don't care what you think about the stat of Indy Car racing, these are pretty hard things to dispute.

  3. Also wondering if there is an update on the Brockway Pub-Danny Boy restaurant/taproom that was planned for the village as well?

  4. Why does the majority get to trample on the rights of the minority? You do realize that banning gay marriage does not rid the world of gay people, right? They are still going to be around and they are still going to continue to exist. The best way to get it all out of the spotlight? LEGALIZE IT! If gay marriage is legal, they will get to stop trying to push for it and you will get to stop seeing it all over the news. Why do Christians get to decide what is moral?? Why do you get to push your religion on others? How would legalizing gay marriage expose their lifestyle to your children? By the way, their lifestyle is going to continue whether gay marriage is legalized or not. It's been legal in Canada for quite a while now and they seem to be doing just fine. What about actual rules handed down by God? What about not working on Sundays? What about obeying your parents? What about adultery? These are in the 10 Commandments, the most important of God's rules. Yet they are all perfectly legal. What about divorce? Only God is allowed to dissolve a marriage so why don't you work hard to get divorce banned? Why do you get to pick and choose the parts of the Bible you care about?

  5. Look at the bright side. With the new Lowe's call center, that means 1000 jobs at $10 bucks an hour. IMS has to be drooling over all that disposable income. If those employees can save all their extra money after bills, in five years they can go to the race LIVE. Can you say attendance boost?