King Park Area Development Corp. is in advanced talks with Ace Hardware to anchor a new retail project at
the northeast corner of 22nd and Delaware streets. Whether the roughly $2-million project gets off the ground depends on if
King Park lands a $521,000 job creation grant from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, said Janine Betsey, the
group's executive director. She declined to reveal many details about the project, which she described as preliminary. Locally
based A2SO4 is designing the building, but no rendering was available.
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Welcome to Property Lines, Indy's source for neighborhood real estate news. Your host is Scott Olson, IBJ's real estate beat
reporter. Edited by Cory Schouten.
King Park Area Development Corp. is in advanced talks with Ace Hardware to anchor a new retail project at
the northeast corner of 22nd and Delaware streets. Whether the roughly $2-million project gets off the ground depends on if
King Park lands a $521,000 job creation grant from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, said Janine Betsey, the
group's executive director. She declined to reveal many details about the project, which she described as preliminary. Locally
based A2SO4 is designing the building, but no rendering was available.
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These quaint,obsessed musings by the stalkers are certainly entertaining, but I'm trying to figure out what, if anything, all the yelping below has to do with Zak Brown.
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It's evident that Moffett was pushing the right buttons and corporate America is now trying to squash him. He just wanted to withdraw the free pilot services provided to the company by the pilots to try and put some pressure on a company that has not been interested in negotiating a contract in over 5 years. The company does not provide a contract because not having one has saved them a bundle of money. Shame on any Republic pilots not standing behind their union leader just because things are getting tough, can you not see such strategic moves by the company as putting the last union president in a corporate position and into THEIR pocket. Do you really believe the last union president is so appalled at the attempts by Moffett, do you not remember his oppositions to the company? We stood behind him. It has been proven over and over again for thousands of years without fail, a man cannot serve two masters. Anyone that believes people vote contrary to their paycheck and livelihood deserve to be taken advantage of, the recent statements by the former union president are laughable as he denounces the current union president from his new corporate position. Have you ever seen a drafted sports player score points for his previous team, it cannot be done, he is not on the pilots side anymore, he gets his money a different way now than you and I do, and he should not be allowed to remain on the seniority list. A drafted player brings strength, credibility, tactical knowledge, and a strategic advantage to his NEW team, he would not be drafted or paid were it otherwise. We are all forced to choose only one side to play for and support, not doing so has many references in life such as insider trading and shaving points, all illegal for good reason. This basic fact is why corporate moguls, scientist, and engineers all sign non-discloser agreements and non-compete clauses, as protection in case they are lured into switching sides as our former union president has done. No NFL coach ever drafted a player so that both teams could benefit and better understand each other, they are recruited to win the game against that former team, period. Likewise the company does not recruit the former union president by accident or mutual understanding, its strategy. Don't confuse playing the game with good sportsman-like conduct in support of common business and prosperity goals, with the requirement to only play for one side. Good men we all love and favor fall subject to this manipulation, often without their knowledge, and it is not a betrayal of their friendship to oppose them when they switch sides. If we did not love and trust them, they would not have been chosen and lured to the other side in the first place. The deception by the drafted player is not made at a conscious level, it's just human nature and it's all about money and power which corrupts our ability to be objective and loyal to two masters. This is why our court system created the defense attorney, and why our military created counter intelligence. Its strategy and its propaganda, and it works, and that's why the "powers to be" manipulate the chess pieces by sometimes changing their colors. Some players know they are being manipulated when their color is changed, but it brings them more money and power so they do not care. The rest have good intentions but do not even realize they are being manipulated. This tactic is also known by another name, Divide and Conquer. In battle sending an imperfect message with an imperfect team is obviously not ideal, but it's still being sent by YOUR team, your union leader, a leader that has common goals and common rewards with you, they are the best, because we have elected them to do a job for us. If you are not backing Moffett but believing the spin by those that have recently switched sides, you are taking food out of your own mouth. Showing unity and backing an imperfect situation still results in taking just as much ground, it's about unity and bargaining power. It's not necessary to wait around for that perfect attack because it will never come, the company will spin and attempt to destroy anyone that gets in their way. Ultimately it's not about any specific attack anyway, ASAP or whatever it makes no difference, it is and always has been only about power. If this company cared about safety it would not build pairings with 8 hour overnights, come on, are you that naive? Besides, do you really think Hoffa cares, no, he got a call from corporate America and was squeezed into denouncing Moffett. If he didn't they would spin the safety card against him and the Teamsters National with implication for truckers, future contracts, insurance rates etc...saying something like the Teamsters use safety as a bargaining chip, blah blah blah... Do you really think any pilot is going to do something unsafe for the contract, absolutely not, the only ones threatening safety here is the company with reduced rest, fatigue, and poverty. Do you not find it odd that Hoffa and the Teamsters are opposing a Teamster president publicly? Would the Teamsters National not normally support and work with one of their own? Why did they not sit down and help him strategize, correct any mistakes, and charge ahead? Would the Teamsters National not normally support and leverage a contract for all those pilots that have been paying Teamster dues, isn't that why we have all been paying Teamster dues in the first place? I sure haven't been paying dues so that the Teamsters National could come along and write this kind of an article undercutting our union leader and our unity. Whose side is the Teamsters National really on, it's obviously not the Republic pilots side.
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No matter what Moffatt does the company is going to spin it like he is the terrorist and brainwash people like you into believing it, wake up, back your players that are trying to change things for you and your livelihood. Where has Hoffa been for the last 6 years, except collecting our dues. Seriously, do you really think an FO going for upgrade, signed off by a checkairman ready for the upgrade, who then fails, is not even capable of returning as a First Officer.
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Fall Creek Place was a great project. But the serious incompleteness in it is that it was 100% residential, and the purely single family district they created was not a neighborhood in a real sense since it was monolithic. I always look to see if there is a pedestrian anywhere when I drive through FCP, and almost never see one.
The live-work buildings at 25th and Delaware were a huge shot in the arm, particularly with the Goose. And they look nice too. A retail district along 22nd St. would be great - if done right.
If they turn this into a typical inner city Indy strip mall, it will be an opportunity missed. Clearly, there will be a parking lot. But how parking is integrated into the site design (preferrably in the rear or above/below grade), as well as the overall design of the buildings: their architecture, massing, materials, how they relate to the street and the surroundings, how they express the character of Indianapolis, the tenant mix - these are the that will determine if the project is a success or not. A hardware store, as a neighborhood convenience item, is a good start. If this ends up looking like the Walgreens at 16th and Meridian, that would be sad. It doesn't have to be expensive. I believe a good design doesn't have to cost much if anything more than a bad one. It just takes a desire to do something of quality.
By the way, since this is a CDC backed project with public grant money involved (i.e., tax dollars), then clearly the public deserves a say on this project.
The live-work buildings at 25th and Delaware were a huge shot in the arm, particularly with the Goose. And they look nice too. A retail district along 22nd St. would be great - if done right.
If they turn this into a typical inner city Indy strip mall, it will be an opportunity missed. Clearly, there will be a parking lot. But how parking is integrated into the site design (preferrably in the rear or above/below grade), as well as the overall design of the buildings: their architecture, massing, materials, how they relate to the street and the surroundings, how they express the character of Indianapolis, the tenant mix - these are the that will determine if the project is a success or not. A hardware store, as a neighborhood convenience item, is a good start. If this ends up looking like the Walgreens at 16th and Meridian, that would be sad. It doesn't have to be expensive. I believe a good design doesn't have to cost much if anything more than a bad one. It just takes a desire to do something of quality.
By the way, since this is a CDC backed project with public grant money involved (i.e., tax dollars), then clearly the public deserves a say on this project.
But you know going in to these small hardware stores that you're going to pay a little more for the convenience of not having to drive 20 minutes ... to save $2.
And I love that Fusek's is next to the grocery. And that they are the only place open on Sundays, save for the big boxes. I wouldn't go to buy a water heater, but when you need supplies to finish that job at the last second...it's nice.
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Kudos to ACE... I hope it happens... I'll be hoofin' it there for supplies, that's for sure!
It seems to me that the end result is either A) a shift of low-paying retail jobs from one part of the City to another or B) a needless half-million dollar subsidy to a developer for a project that the market was already demanding.
Hopefully, somebody can explain the need and justification for the grant, other than to say that nothing's developed there yet.
We (by that I mean the collective polity of the city) have decided that it's better to have Fall Creek Place than Dodge City between 22nd St. and Fall Creek from Meridian over to College. Ten years ago, the market mechanism had ground to a halt...or rather, it bred an endless cycle of tax sale, slum rentals, and ultimately, decay and demolition.
Fixing decades of disinvestment and reweaving the urban fabric requires either patient capital or outright grants. That's usually because the actual and perceived costs of doing business in an urban redevelopment area are higher than in, say, Fishers. In short, incentive grants are necessary to draw out private investment. To that end, Fall Creek Place is part of numerous special zone designations, including Enterprise Zone. It's a focus of government investment...again, a policy decision.
Finally, not everyone in Fall Creek Place lives in a two-degree, two-income household. The folks who don't might appreciate having entry-level or post-retirement jobs that don't require a graduate degree.
Fall Creek Place does tend to need to work harder to land retail development for a number of reasons. Largely though, FCP still doesn't look good on paper. When any non-local corporation looks at either the zip code or census tract information for Fall Creek Place, neither are too inviting as of yet.
Even data from two years ago can't compete with the urban utopia that is Carmel. Do they still pave the streets with candy up there?
I understand that there are real and perceived costs that are higher there than at some other locations, but it would get built eventually if the market would justify it. It doesn't seem like good policy to me.
I think a labor grant that helps a neighborhood-scale business get started generating activity, jobs, rent, property taxes, sales taxes and wage taxes on an empty site is a good thing for Indianapolis.
There's only so many dollars that Marion County and Central Indiana residents have to spend. I still believe the market will meet that demand for retail space, with or without subsidies. I highly doubt that the money people would spend at this development would otherwise be spent outside Marion County, thus I believe the net gain in property and sales tax revenues, as well as number of jobs would be negligible. Of course, my objection would be much more relevant to M.C. taxpayers, if and when a property tax abatement were to be requested.
Subsidy is a long-established and reasonably straightforward method of levelling the playing field when the stated goal is bringing necessary services and jobs to underserved neighborhoods.