Bertolini's in Circle Centre closes

March 10, 2008
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BertoliniAfter a 12-year run, upscale Italian restaurant Bertolini's has closed its Circle Centre location. The restaurant, on the first floor of the mall next to P.F. Chang's and Champps, was part of Chicago-based Morton's Restaurant Group. The company, like most upscale chains, has struggled in recent months as the economy flounders. In a statement to IBJ, Morton's said the local restaurant wasn't profitable. Bertolini's still has two locations: in Las Vegas and King of Prussia, Pa. The Circle Centre space doesn't have street access, but with exterior signage it could be a great location, said retail broker Steve Delaney. What sounds good for here?
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  • The Cheesecake Factory or Uno's would probably do well. King David Dogs could use some expansion room!
  • Bring back Panda Express!

    8-D
  • I loved that place!! It was never busy though (unless a convention was in town).......maybe P.F. Changs could take it for more seating?
  • Meh, I was never that impressed with Bertolini's. How about that French place out at the Holiday Inn Airport that's closing? I heard they were considering reopening in downtown...
  • that would be funny if panda express opened up next to pfchangs.
  • How about a strip club? It's pretty close to Conseco, so the Pacers could just walk there after the game.
  • How about a great Mexican place. This is something that downtown lacks. There was rumor that Adobo was going to open another location downtown, but haven't heard any more about that.
  • Bob: http://blog.ibj.com/blog/?p=175
  • Downtown still needs a Thai restaurant. This spot is probably too big though.

    How about that French place out at the Holiday Inn Airport that’s closing? I heard they were considering reopening in downtown…

    I love this idea, I always prefer local restaurants to chains. I hate to say it, but Cheesecake Factory would work really well in this spot.
  • Thai, yes Thai. I vote for that. I'm just expecting some chain to go in, as usual. I don't know who else could afford the rent.

    Cory, any word on why Victoria's Secret moved to the 4th floor of Circle Center?
  • Ablerock, the Victoria's Secret move is temporary, while they remodel their second-floor space.
  • I believe Morton's originally planned that Bertolini's would become a major national chain, but it never worked out that way, leaving the already opened restaurants as orphans.
  • I ate at Adobo's Castleton location and they had a sign saying their downtown location will open on 110 E Washington in the summer.

    I'm disappointed about Bertolini's; I too liked it. Panda Express would be appropriate opening below Payless Shoe Source; but hopefully the space will be filled with something of similar quality to that of Bertolini's.
  • It's a vacant slot in a shopping mall. Put in a cheesecake factory, or its sad ilk, and be done with it.
  • IKEA Express?


    :runs:
  • Haven't been in there for awhile, but is that space really large enough for something that would be as popular as Cheesecake Factory?
  • I had heard that the Friday's on Washington street inside the Marriott was going to be closing due to renovations of the hotel. They could fit inside the old space. I think The Cheesecake Factory would be too big to fit but who knows since they opened one in greenwood and have one up north it could do solid business with a limited menu perhaps. It could even buy PF Chang's space and take the whole side of the floor. I dined at Berotlini's about two weeks ago and I was a regular when I worked downtown. I liked it better than some of those brewery places which were noisy and the food was so-so.
  • I'm ready for a downtown version of La Piedad
  • Lacking Downtown Mexican Food - Go to Acapulco Joes then a few blocks North on Illinois. It beats any type of Chain Americanized Mexican.

    Also, it was rumored by one of the TGIF staff at the courtyard that they have been eyeing the Golds Gym (or whatever used to be there) spot on Illinois and Market across from TGMaxx as a possibly move. However, there was talk that they would just close down until the proprty is built and then re-open. Don't see how they could afford to do that though. It's a cash mine because it's the only place close for all of the NCAA IHSAA and museum workers plus all of victory field and Whiute River Park.
  • That space is too small for Cheesecake, and I don't think they would take a space that wouldn't allow for their big cupola looking thing anyway. Really, without an outside entrance, it is a B location that is going to be hard to fill. Paradise Bakery has been looking for another location downtown. But, I think it would be a perfect California Pizza Kitchen location.
  • I think casual dining would work..California Pizza Kitchen or Boogie Burger
  • Chanteclair the french resataurant that is closing at the airport or some other european type of bistro. Something Greek or Mediterranean would be nice also.
  • California Pizza Kitchen was once in the Mall and it didn't last. This was about 7 years ago when I was in High School.
  • I love the French Restaurant idea, but with it being locally owned and not a recognized chain, it would prolly benefit from having a storefront property. Since this location is in a mall, a nationally recognized chain like Fridays or Cheesecake Factory is prolly what we'll see.
  • Downtown - California Pizza Kitchen was never in the downtown Mall. I think you are confusing it with the California Cafe, an original tenant which did not last. I believe they were somehow related to Alcatraz and shared staff.
  • California Pizza Kitchen would be a welcome addition downtown. Those restaurants seem to do well in other cities and in other malls but, for some reason, the one at the Fashion Mall didn't make the grade.

    Panda Express doesn't belong anywhere but in a food court and I wouldn't eat there regardless of location.
  • Downtown says: Go to Acapulco Joes then a few blocks North on Illinois. It beats any type of Chain Americanized Mexican.

    WTF? I-could-puke-o Joe's is the epitome of Americanized Mexican food. Squeeze bottle salsa. Slap some more goo on it, that'll make it better.
  • I have to agree...Acapulco Joe's is RANCID! I suspect that a chain with deep pockets will take this spot in no time, but please not another Cheesecake Factory. Maybe B.M. Changs can get their tabels out of the hall way and into an actual dining space. That is the TACKIEST set-up ever.
  • Maybe they should just gut it and turn it into retail space.
  • Bertolini's was not vety good. Gave it my usual 3 chances before rejecting it. A Bravo would be GREAT there.
  • Someone said great Mexican food - heck Acapulco Joe's doesn't even qualify as good Mexican food. Even the Bell beats it, and we all know how good the Bell is........

    Cory, WHERE is the Del Taco we were told about last fall?????
  • I agree........I can't stand Acapulco Joe's.......I can make more convincing mexican food with a can of Hormel Chili and some Fritos....
  • I like the idea of Thai, but have to agree that a chain is likely. So best of both: Big Bowl from Chicagoland. They are just about the right level of sophistication for the site. And their fresh ginger ale is amazing.
  • Oh, if only El Sol de Tala got a fresh start there...
  • I agree with city fan Bravo could work out there plus it does have name recognition. I just ate there for my first time two weeks ago and I am hooked. They are opening one in Greenwood this year so who knows if they will want to come downtown.
  • Acapulco Joe’s is by far the worst Mexican food in this city. Banquet $1 frozen enchilada meals have more taste than the crap at that place. The only place that is close to Acapulco Joe’s in the category of worst Mexican is La Jolla in Broad Ripple.
  • I went to Acapulco Joe's once when I first moved here about 5 years ago and vowed to never return. I've never heard anyone recommend it. It gets regularly ripped at Feed Me/Drink Me and it's getting a similar reaction here as well. How does that place stay in business?
  • la hacienda is pretty good they have opened several locations around town and seem to be doing well.
  • CorrND,
    Acapulco Joes was one of the first (possibly even the first - it was either them or El Sol) Mexican restaurants in the city and they still have a loyal following. A lot of people consider them an Indy institution and keep going just for the kitsch factor.

    Also, they are basically they only Mexican place downtown, so if you need a quick fix (which many dt office workers do) thats the place to go.

    Personally, the place horrifies me. Watered town tomato paste out of a squirt bottle for salsa?
  • Not to defend Alcupolco Joes or anything, because thy never were a favorite of mine, but that watered down tomatoe paste that everyone is wailing about is actually a fairly COMMON condiment in AUTHENTIC Mexican cuisine, and it IS called salsa. Most Americans idea of salsa is that chunky, tomatoe heavy concoction they find at most Mexican restaraunts. Truth is, that rancid version you find at Joes is actually closer to the genuine thing.

    As for the space, a Cheesecake Factory would never work, that space is entirely too small for even a limited version of it. I like the idea of CPK giving it another go, their original location in Circle Center (mixed in with the food court, i believe) was a weird spot to start with. They would have fared much better in a less chaotic space, without being surrounded by all those nasty fast food/food court options.

    On a side note, Cory, any word on the Fogo de Chao propsed for dowtown?
  • Me and my friends have always called it Aca-PUKE-o Joes. It is a downright disgrace to Mexican food.
  • I haven't even been there copy cat.
    Helen above me is not who I am. I am changing my username. Those who read my posts will easiely know who I am.
  • Marshall,
    I'll have to take your word for it but I've been to Mexico four times and never encountered anything like you've described.
  • wow, and this place always seemed to by busy...there must be more to this story.
  • Famous Dave's, please. We need a decent BBQ joint downtown.

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