Commission shoots down Broad Ripple office project

February 20, 2014
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A couple of weathered bungalows in the 5900 block of North College Avenue won’t be torn down after all to make way for a two-story office building.

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                              office building Broad Ripple 225pxScott Lindenberg and Thomas Willey, who operate Reliant Partners Commercial Realty on Westfield Boulevard in Broad Ripple, had planned to invest $1.5 million in the 5,700-square-foot project.

But members of the Metropolitan Development Commission on Wednesday voted 5-3 to reject their proposal.

One of the more outspoken critics of the redevelopment was Clare Fox, who owns the building at 5901 N. College Ave.,  just south of the homes, and who operated Fox Studios there for 33 years until it closed in July.

“The Envision [Broad Ripple] plan calls Kessler and College a gateway to the Broad Ripple Village that should speak to the village character,” she told commission members. “These homes are an integral part of that village character. The proposed building is not.”

The Envision Broad Ripple plan, a guideline for village development completed in late 2012, took center stage in the debate surrounding the development of the office building.

The Broad Ripple Village Association’s development committee had voted 10-1 to support the project, believing the two homes were close enough to commercial activity to be sacrificed.

“Our interpretation [of Envision Broad Ripple] is that a commercial node should be treated differently than mid-block residential areas, particularly on these arteries that have potential for mass transit,” Brooke Klejnot, executive director of the BRVA, told IBJ before the commission’s vote.

The commission may not have heard the last from Willey and Lindenberg, however.

“We’ll come up with Plan B, for sure,” Willey said. “Certainly, we’ll come up with an alternative and use this building that we’ve got designed elsewhere.”

The architect on the project was locally based One 10 Studio.
 

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  • Huh?
    What village, Mrs. Fox? Broad Ripple is NOT a village, you people need to get past that word. Broad Ripple is an neighborhood with too many NIMBY's who want to deny its urbanity. THIS would have been an excellent project but for some reason known only to a select few, Broad Ripple is out of touch with reality and does everything in its power to resist change and progress. Hopefully, as all the old guard dies off, the atmosphere will become more receptive.
    • Disgusting
      As residents and businesses flee Marion County for the suburbs, we have NIMBYs like Clare Fox who oppose any and every urban development that tries to stop the bleeding. Like Marshall said, Broad Ripple IS NOT A VILLAGE and never was. If you want to live in a village, there are many outside of central Indiana that you can live in.
      • Are you surprised?
        "Welcome to Broad Ripple Village; Where we love a good fight!"
      • goovy!
        Pretty groovy looking building to me! Looks like what a lot of the progressive cites around the USA are doing to move into the 21st Century...guess we still aren't ready for that move? Sure would have improved the image and higher level of design a notch!
      • Ms Fox
        Since Ms Fox got her wish of letting these run down houses remain, she needs to step up and pay the city for the lost tax revenue that will occur from not building this development.
      • Legitimize Broad Ripple Business
        My business is located in Broad Ripple and I fully supported the petition proposed by Reliant Partners. Ms Fox suggested to the commission yesterday to allow businesses to 'adapt' the old run down houses for commercial use. What? Another run down 'business' home with a sign stuck out in the front lawn representing College Ave economic development. That is 'violating' my business community. What a shame and missed opportunity to further legitimize Broad Ripple.
      • Keep up with the times
        This is a quality project that reflects what is happening around other vibrant urban areas. Broadripple needs this projects to stay relevant. Office space is the basis to grow other business outside of retail if you want a thriving urban mix. This needs to happen.
      • Parking Garage OK?
        So...it's OK for one of Mayor Marine's biggest political contributors to build a "parking garage" and lie about it, but it is NOT OK for a private developer to build a business building? Chicago politics at its finest!
      • OH MY!
        Come on! Ms. Fox - Yep, "And you are out of business why?" You were certainly alright when the new tenants of your building repurposed it for profit for you. Out of all respect. In all, by fighting this development you are in many ways taking away from the very property you own. How smart is that? Understand this. Broad Ripple is quickly losing the little luster it has. As a resident of the area, I can't believe I'm saying this - but I would rather go to Fountain Square or even Carmel to view proactive development that builds community.
      • self interest
        It seems MS Fox who recently renovated her building to accommodate new commercial use has once again decided that her self interest is more important than the community needs. As a life long resident of Broad Ripple and Meridian Kessler I have experienced both the decline and rise of the area. If the mindset Ms Fox is exhibiting had been allowed to persist in the late 70's and early 80's the Vogue would have remained as the XXX rated theater it was and we would have experienced a very different Broad Ripple. Growth in thinking is needed to move us forward rather than backward.
      • It's all about
        Yeah, the building as designed is cool enough...standard contemporary styling...typical materials...clean...fine. But is it a timeless design? Will it actually still "fit" in 10 years, 25 years, 50 or 100+ years, like the bungalows? Is it contextually appropriate? How does the design respond to and complement its surroundings? It's good enough, but looks like it would essentially stand alone to me. Kind of just dropped in there. And no, I wouldn't advocate for a "faux historic" or "new-old" design either; contemporary adjacent to historic is just fine. No one is arguing that the investment is not welcome - what I hear is that there are more nuanced design issues that perhaps involve more than just the building - broader contextual issues. If this is the case, hopefully the MDC gave the petitioners some guidance on how to tweak their proposal. I'm glad to see that MDC is being more choosy - hopefully the days of the "beggar's mentality" (all investment is good, no matter what!) are over and we'll start seeing even more thoughtful and responsive designs. Sharpen your pencils, there's a new Sheriff in town.
        • It's called Progress!
          I cannot believe how shortsighted the commission planners are with regards to commercial and economic progress. If you were a business owner, why would you want to attempt to move to Broad Ripple? And I live in the 'village' on Winthrop between Kessler and 62nd and work just off of College around 66th. People...let's move forward! And get rid of NIMBY's like Fox. Your time is up!
        • I have a solution
          Simple solution, bring your investment money to the near eastside. Let's build something special!
        • we'll go
          The comment from the newbie developers about taking their ball and going to play in another sandbox is fantastic. The hoped-for outcome of Plan B should still be new investment at that location. If your Plan B is to build your building somewhere else where you'll get no resistance, you're in for a bumpy ride as developers fellas! Hopefully you do get to build the handsome building you've already designed somewhere in the future as well.
        • RE: Scott Olson
          Scott Olson, did the MDC provide their reasons for rejecting this?
        • Reasons for rejection
          No, but I believe they sided with the opponents' argument that, according to Envision Broad Ripple, residences should be saved when at all possible. BRVA took the stand that the residences are close enough to a commercial node that they don't warrant being saved.
          • ridiculous
            I've noticed most of the "homes" north of this intersection already have a business in them. A lot of them aren't used as housing. Personally, I'd rather see cool looking office/retail buildings instead of homes with a business inside. Keep fighting progress, Indy. Maybe these guys should look to Carmel. I doubt they would get the opposition.
          • Change and Progress?
            Well Mr Marshall, this project is so far from change and progress and more akin to greed and gentrification of comercial bleakness.... as for the old guard...you'll have a bit of a wait....move your project to fishers!
            • Good for MDC
              First, Broad Ripple has a plan, then they ignore it. If Broad Ripple is not a village, then what do the letters BRVA stand for. I see the word Village in there. What is the problem with being a NIMBY? All Fox did was point out the BRVA's own plan to the MDC. Sure, Fox would like to see XXX still at the Vogue, get a life. Possibly if more people back in the 70's and 80's knew that the village would be packed with bars more residents, NIMBY's, would have gotten involved, or maybe they did and were over run by the developers. BRVA has no interest in any historic preservation or renovation. Nothing wrong with those little cottages that can't be rehabbed. The Village should be a little better at governing at how these homes look when they are converted to businesses and try and keep a residential feel. I appreciate the developers for making a good try and nice design. It's just the wrong location in the Village. I also think it's buyer beware when you purchase a property before it is rezoned or has a variance. When I saw the first for sale sign go up at that location, it said "commercial".Was it, or was it just a realtor trying to boost the sales price?
              • Keep BR a village
                Interesting comments from those who seem to know little or any history of Broad Ripple. It has always been a village, hence the name, since the 1830's. And this MDC ruling is wonderful so that we do not end up with a modern commercial strip between Kessler and BR Ave, but instead keep the residential feel, even if the houses contain small businesses. We are stuck with that awful parking garage across from the Vogue, but it sure get a new plan for the Shell site that does not have another huge out of place structure. And lets stop tearing down historic structures which are the essence of BR Village.
                • Residential vs Commercial
                  Shouldn't the MDC deny any variance of uses to allow any businesses in these residential structures to begin with? The bigger question is why would the MDC deny such a rezoning as this but approve all of the variance's of use? If residential is what they want, then they should enforce that and keep them residential. These particular bungalows, although old, are not architecturally significant or special in anyway that would deem an historic classification.
                • Envision Plan
                  The Broad Ripple Envision Plan is a living document, not a commandment. Regardless of how many years in the making, there is no way a single plan can anticipate every economic/development opportunity that will come up in the next twenty to thirty years. So to use it as a defense with no latitude is misguided, short sighted, and quite frankly, dumb. Even the constitution of the United States has 27 amendments. Ms Fox had an agenda, and it had nothing to do with two old bungalows rotting on the northeast corner of College and Kessler.
                • Approved by MDC Staff
                  What's amazing is the MDC's own Staff ruled in favor and gave approval of this petition during the meeting. Still scratching my head.
                • Fine With Me
                  This is just another example of why pretty much all the good development in the city is happening in and/or near downtown. Broad Ripple is going to slowly but surely die off (minus some of SoBro) as a viable neighborhood for young professionals with their antiquated thoughts on urban design. It's funny how this sort of project gets denied, but an ugly parking garage with nothing but lousy chains gets approval. As a resident of Fountain Square, it's fine with me. Bring more of that development our way.
                • The real story
                  I am quite certain Ms Fox had her own plans for those homes. She wanted to tear them down as well and turn them into parking for her new tenant. This argument has nothing to do with historic preservation.
                • pictures
                  Just so everyone is aware, these are the two "historic" properties that are being claimed as "an integral part of that village character." http://goo.gl/qPWJTr
                • BRVA
                  The Holy Roman Empire, was neither Holy, Roman, or an Empire... Broad Ripple is as much a village as, say, MassAve. A village is more Laura Ingalls Wilder, NOT a former suburb that is now surrounded by a CITY.
                • Direct the angst where it belongs
                  It's fine to criticize Ms Fox's arguments and intentions, but she's not responsible for the rezoning being denied. Blame the MDC members and the politicians who appoint them. They are the ones who routinely ignore the professional DMD staff that is paid to provide thoughtful interpretations of the City's adopted plans and provide reasonable recommendations. That's where I'd direct my complaints.
                • Design
                  BRVA should come up with some consensus-based design guidelines for important nodes and corridors within their purview. Of course, this won't eliminate controversy borne of interpretation, but it does give much more guidance to MDC & staff as far as community intent - certainly more than 'preserve a village feel' or other such soft language that is often the hallmark of area-wide visioning plans. Even though there is no good mechanism to give design guidelines any "teeth" in our zoning/permitting process here in Indy, they do serve to quell decision-making that is based solely on politics. This may be a case where design guidelines for the College Corridor would have better informed the buyers/developers' design process and perhaps prevented a political decision that will result in the loss of street trees and a new surface parking lot.
                • Beauty
                  Look at these beautiful, historic homes. Maybe Ms Fox can start a fundraising drive to put up a NRHP marker so future generations can understand the cultural and historical significance of these landmarks. http://goo.gl/qPWJTr
                • Yes, come to the Near Eastside!
                  I agree with Spencer... build this on the Near Eastside! E. 10th Street between Mass Ave and Rural is seeing significant positive changes.
                • Lighten Up
                  Brad, Ms. Fox is "out of business" because she retired and sold her business. And on top of that, that building is again fully occupied and invigorated by new businesses that used the existing fabric. These businesses will bring exactly the kind of traffic BRVA should want--local, higher-end. Not sure why all the vitriol aimed at Fox for wanting re-use of those properties instead of an odd building plopped into a corridor that would change its character. On the east side we have similar intersection-based businesses that transition to residential style buildings (whether used commercially or not), maintaining the old neighborhood feel. Tearing those transitional buildings down and replacing them with two-story commercial structures does impact that feel and character. My two cents.
                • No, It's Not A Village, Nor Does The Project Need To Be Superior
                  Where is there a requirement that any building have a "timeless" design? Most of the architecture in Indianapolis for the past 50 years has been rather banal. Why should one proposed project be held to a standard no other project has been held to? It simply needs to be functional and not unduly overshadow the street or surrounding areas--that's it. I think the only "tweak" that needs to be done is for the developer's to tell the MDC and the Broad Ripple NIMBYs to stick it, and take their project to another part of the city that would welcome the new building. Let the run-down houses sit and rot, and when they finally collapse or are set on fire by a vagrant, as happens to other such properties in the city, then perhaps the city will be more open to something being built on the site.
                  • It Is Not A Village
                    Kevin, Woodruff Place was actually a separate municipality for several decades longer than Broad Ripple, yet that neighborhood doesn't go around making the pretentious claim to be a "village." Irvington was a separate town that had a unique character and was bigger than Broad Ripple, and it even had a university within its borders for several years, but it doesn't claim to be a "village" today either. Broad Ripple is an urban neighborhood in a major U.S. city. It is not a village. It is a major commercial corridor and nightlife spot. There is nothing "village-like" in its character. And, yes, we all know the history of Broad Ripple. But, its historic beginnings as a small town, do not make it a village today.
                  • BTW
                    BTW: what is a NIMBY? And In all, I simply hope that we seek progress (solute the efforts of the developers) and not simply regress to the fears of change.
                    • Time to Chill Out
                      Wow, it's pretty amazing how some people can be so obsessed with their opinion that they unabatedly bash a long time business owner and resident of the neighborhood like Clare Fox. I have been a customer of Fox Glass Studios for many years and I can assure you that there isn't a more honest and gracious business person out there than Ms. Fox. And she has just put a very large investment back into her building which helps solidify that property on a very important and visible corner of the neighborhood for some time to come. So take a chill pill--Ms. Fox is an advocate for smart growth in BRV...and she has been a strong asset to the neighborhood for a very long time.
                    • NIMBY
                      Not In My Back Yard
                    • Selfish
                      Just because you are a long time business owner, it doesn't give you the right to block new businesses from having the same success (EG Rick Rising-Moore, Clare Fox). We all know the real reason why they want to block the new business. They are scared the new business will take away public parking spots that they believe they "own".
                    • Blessed
                      http://goo.gl/qPWJTr Indianapolis is such a blessed city to be able to preserve these two treasures for generations to come. Who needs to save trash like the Knights of Pythias building and the Marion County Courthouse when you have these two landmarks.
                      • Uninformed
                        I suppose you love the parking garage look also.
                      • Uninformed
                        You probably like the look of the parking garage too..
                      • RE: Don Acheson
                        Don, my last two posts were made with a heavy dose of sarcasm...
                        • UNINFORMED
                          Isn't democracy wonderful! All the fools that mock the process spent to perfect the "Envision Broadripple" violations, are truly UNINFORMED. Why make a concise compressive plan and then ignore all it stands for. It is not INVASION Broadripple, by the way.
                        • Maria
                          No , I couldn't tell.
                        • people aren't listening
                          Randy!you win the prize! Again, this battle has NOTHING TO DO WITH PERSERVING THOSE HOMES. All parking
                          • Village?
                            Am I wrong in thinking there is a BR village, but that it's north of the Canal? The area south of the Canal is an urban neighborhood (albeit predominantly commercial). Do people even consider Kessler Blvd to really be a part of BR? Isn't that better defines as the nebulous "SoBRo"? If the "village" does extend south to BR Ave, I certainly don't think it goes another half mile south to Kessler.
                          • Broad Ripple Whole Foods
                            The Developers of this project Scott & Tom are super nice guys. They have put a lot of thought into this. Great design. Not sure how I feel about the mixed placement of new commercial in old residential location. But let us face it, Broad Ripple is not the Village it once was, and it actually once was a Village. Read history! I am amazed that the MDC did not approve this, but did approved the "Out of Place" Parking Garage and Browning's proposed "Rape' of Broad Ripple - Apartment Complex/Whole Foods Project. I think it all comes down to political donations - This is what really angers me. Look around Broad Ripple and you can tell what projects were the results of political donations….??? Bottomline - Broad Ripple is a Dump. Nasty streets, Nasty mixture of old and new buildings. Nasty Bars and tons of riff raft... Just like the rest of Indianapolis. A few nice places but a "hoe" bunch of Nasty!! That why I spend a lot of time in the Country.
                          • The Dumpy Village
                            Broad Ripple really once was a Village…..Now it is a Dump…Nasty Streets & Nasty Buildings.
                          • Maria's Village
                            Maria - Broad Ripple was once a Village - Summer homes for people who lived in Indianapolis - Read history!!!!!
                          • Dumpy and still a Village
                            I agree! Broad Ripple is a Dump!!!! So is Virginia Avenue towards Fountain Square.I hate the Nasty -throw a slanted flat roof, cheap material facade on a 2x4' stick structure and call it Modern Architecture…what a Joke! In ten years all of these buildings will be out dated, be in need of repair and the, now wannabes will be complaining these structures then. Keep whats left of the Dumpy Village from becoming another area of cheaply constructed modern architecture.
                          • The Truth
                            Good evening my name is Scott Lindenberg - who along with business partner Tom Willey embarked on a tiresome journey to find a home for our business in Broad Ripple. Why? Because we love Broad Ripple and would never do anything to undermine it's character or hurt the village. A village that once dominated Mass Ave. and Fountain Square and candidly has had its bad press and troubles in recent years. As long-time residents of the area, a Butler grad and supporter of nearly every single retailer along College and in the Village we want the opportunity to create a professional, first-class home for our business. NOT TO BE A BIG BAD DEVELOPER - rather invest our hard earned money. After exhaustive research of Broad Ripple we came to the conclusion there is not enough quality, professional office space for a company like ours. That same assertion is felt by many of us that spent some of the best years of our life in Broad Ripple and now a little older would like the opportunity to office there and support the village with our hard, earned investment dollars. Not that we don't appreciate a bungalow or residential living in Broad Ripple - rather we welcome diversity in Ripple that invites and allows us to create an office that reflects our character and style. A design that was challenged, incorporated input from BRVA, neighbors, etc. and was TIRELESSLY and THOUGHTFULLY tweaked to respect the Fox Building to the south and residential houses to the north. If you want a copy of the design criteria and reasoning behind the look of our building e-mail me personally and I'll provide you a copy. Lastly to set the record straight we are hard working business men that care enough about Broad Ripple to take a risk with a project that we know in our heart and soul is what's right for Broad Ripple. I will personally meet anyone that wants to know more about me, us, our project and why it makes perfect sense. I extend that same invitation to Clare Fox who is not willing to meet with me or even talk to me. So here you have it....an open introduction of us and an opportunity to set the record straight. Thank you for caring enough to participate in the process - quite enlightening. BBD
                            • Thanks Scott
                              Thanks Scott for including the name of the architect of the project!
                            • RE: Scott Lindenberg
                              Scott, thank you for your post here. Have you given up on building this project in Broad Ripple? It is a shame that Ms Fox refuses to meet with you, but it does not surprise me.
                              • Fox
                                Again, I'm not sure what's up with the vilification of Ms. Scott. Even if she is opposing this for her own reasons and benefit, so what? As a resident and business owner, she's entitled to do so. I doubt she's the only one who opposed it. However, she doesn't have a vote on the MDC, so why don't you go after the people that denied the project rather than someone who simply opposed it?? I serious think this 'Maria' person has an agenda of her own again Ms. Fox.
                                • Oops
                                  Sorry, that should have said "vilification of Ms. Fox", not "Ms. Scott"...
                                • Vilification?
                                  I read the four or so comments mentioning Ms. Fox, and I didn't see her being vilified. She is an outspoken critic of the project and lobbied vociferously against it. She also owns the adjoining property to the planned development site. She is quoted in the article above. Some commentators questioned her motives and others said her position was wrong. No one called her an evil person, or anything like that. If you chose to take a controversial public position, then you can expect to get responses from others. I would be opposed to making an ad hominen attack on her, but it is perfectly reasonable to directly challenge her position, and even question the motivation for her opposition to the project.
                                • Response to Maria
                                  Hi Maria - great question & not sure about the future of this project. There is overwhelming support for the project and if it's revisited we would hope bloggers & supporters alike will show their support and attend any future hearings.
                                • conflict of interest
                                  I understand that the attorney who represented the Reliant Partners, Rabinowitch, sits on the BRVA Land Use and Development Committee. Simply "recusing" oneself from a vote cannot overshadow one's influence over longstanding co-committee members. He sits on the very committee that he asked to vote for his client-developers that propelled this forward in the first place? That seems an unquestionable conflict of interest as well as a moral issue for all parties involved, and placed an ominous, perhaps shady, cloud over this proposal from the beginning.
                                  • off College
                                    You may or may not be a big, bad developer. The commissioners and hearing officers do not vote on "big and bad," they hold the interest of the people and the city in their hands, and they have raised many questions as to the wisdom of this project at this location. If you do love Broadripple as you say you do, keep your 1.5 in Broadripple, but at a different location. By fixating on this location, your credibility is called into question.
                                  • Angry people throwing stones
                                    You cannot speak to someone's motives unless you have have had that conversation with the individual or you have evidence to prove otherwise. You are grasping at straws because you seem either angry or all-knowing. Stay rational with your comments. The bottom line is that the system worked, whether you agree with the outcome or not. Win or lose, citizens trust the system else we would not enter into it or live in a democracy. We would simply solve all problems with violence. Thank the many commissioners and hearing officers for their work and move on.
                                    • why in disrepair?
                                      The two bungalows in question are in disrepair because the owners, who say they love Broadripple, have been slum landlords. Then they try to sell the property as commercial ($$$), stating the demolition would serve the progress of the Village. I don't hear a lotta love there...
                                      • What Stones?
                                        Jon, your comments seem very silly. Under the same governmental system you reference, individuals have the freedom to express their opinion. Also, this discussion forum, though privately owned, has chosen to invite public comment. More importantly, just because the MDC held a vote doesn't mean that the outcome was the best one, nor is it one that every individual has to agree with. That is why projects come up again for a vote, or why individuals sometimes appeal the decision of the MDC to the City-County Council, or why individuals sometimes even file a lawsuit to challenge a decision. Yes, you are correct that the system worked in the sense that a vote was held, but that does not make it the final say on the matter, nor does it mean any particular individual has to agree with the decision. Nor does it mean that people cannot voice their disagreement with the decision. If you are annoyed by public comment, then perhaps you should stay off discussion forums.
                                        • hit a nerve?
                                          I did express my opinion, which you say I have a right to do. Thank you. Did I hit a nerve?
                                        • Typical
                                          So Jon, in one post you tell people to "not speak to someone's motives" unless you know them and to "stay rationally" and then you follow that up by calling the developers "slum lords" and questioning their commitment to Broad Ripple. Typical hypocritical argument twisting. Nice. Those homes are 80 plus years old and the developers have owned them a year. Yeah, they're the reason those homes are in such bad shape. You're right, Jon. Know the facts before you judge. Hit a nerve?
                                          • Meridian Kessler?
                                            This building would be a great addition along Winthrop around Developertown, and, I expect, welcomed there.
                                          • another perspective
                                            Ms. Fox and others just stood up for what they believe in, PRESERVATION. She has spent most of her life restoring/preserving stained glass, NOT all "historic", much just everyday types. And BTW, she met with Scott Lindenberg and/or Tom Willey, twice, at her building. After that, she met and communicated through their lawyer, as people often do when there is legal representation. In the end, they just had a strong difference of opinion regarding restoration/preservation vs new construction. That really should be OK with everyone.
                                          • Pay attention
                                            I will try to speak more slowly this time. Point #1: Those who say "it's all about the parking," and that Ms.Fox would have torn those houses down to gain parking spaces (motives), cannot logically, rationally make those statements unless they have proof, either verbal or written. Point #2: The owners of those two bungalows allowed them to come into disrepair, THEN they advertised them for sale, and Reliant purchased them. Homes don't deteriorate in the short period of time that Reliant has owned them, thus the slum lords of whom I spoke would not be Reliant, but the ones from whom Reliant made the purchase. Then comes the argument that the bungalows need to be torn down and that the new construction would be an asset? Did the slum lords allow the bungalows to fall into disrepair so that argument would make better sense in an appeal for re zoning? Maybe, maybe not. I won't judge their motives, but its at least a reasonable theory since it is obvious to any passerby that they were not maintaining their properties as residential investments.. I also imagine that Reliant did not buy the properties outright w/out the contingency of re zoning.
                                          • Hummmmm.
                                            Where are comments to this one? Would someone please respond.
                                            • Conflict of Interest
                                              Sorry. Wondered if any of you knew whether "Conflict of Interest" comments are true. I can't find that info on the net. Thanks.
                                            • Fountain Square instead?
                                              Mr. Lindenberg- this Fountain Square resident would appreciate you considering building here instead. There's a lot of excitement and big changes going on down here. We'd love for you to become part of it!
                                            • Irvington?
                                              How about Irvington? Let the BR "villagers" shriek about change and drown in partier puke. Try your luck elsewhere...
                                            • Jon
                                              I think Jon was referring to the previous owners of the bungalows as slumlords.
                                            • Design
                                              The proposed building is a result of tireless efforts to tweak, revise, incorporate input from all neighbors (including the primary remonstrant). The architect is One10Studio that has done an amazing job. E-mail me at slindy70@gmail.com to request the design criteria, thoughts and rationale.
                                            • Clearing Up More MisInformation
                                              Great dialogue among people and their opinions. We purchased the properties in August 2014 so we haven't been slum landlords. Pull up google earth with old areials and pictures and you'll see the condition of the properties years ago. We have a good relationship with our tenants - who ironically support the project. The 2 properties in question require an enormous amount of work and are not a fit so close to an evening, retail building. Keep in mind we are HUGE fans of that retail building next door (former Fox Studio Building) and support both of their tenants and appreciate the project Ms. Fox completed. Conversely we'd like the opportunity to compliment her project and further improve a vibrant commercial node. Call me directly at 317-506-7885 or e-mail me at slindy70@gmail.com if you want confirm any facts, info and share your opinion about the project. I'm not a fan of bashing anyone - rather contact me directly. Thanks, Scott Lindenberg
                                            • Gregg L's Comments / Change and Progress
                                              Gregg L - If you think our project is about greed call me directly and I'll sit down and share my story our project project. THEN you can provide a follow-up post and share whatever you want. I'm a long-time supporter of Broad Ripple, Butler grad and don't want to move this project to Fishers. I love Broad Ripple and this city enough to fight for a project that neighbors, residents, the BRVA and plenty of people support and want. Here's my cell# 506-7885 call me directly and meet me first before you call me greedy. That aside thanks for the debate - healthy changes comes out of differing opinions. Scott Lindenberg
                                            • jon / why in dispair?
                                              Jon - We've owned these properties since August of last year ('13) and we are not slumlords. Call me at 506-7885 and i'll share the facts about the property and you can talk to our tenants if you like. Thanks for your participation in the debate but just want to share the facts. Scott Lindenberg

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                                            1. How can any company that has the cash and other assets be allowed to simply foreclose and not pay the debt? Simon, pay the debt and sell the property yourself. Don't just stiff the bank with the loan and require them to find a buyer.

                                            2. If you only knew....

                                            3. The proposal is structured in such a way that a private company (who has competitors in the marketplace) has struck a deal to get "financing" through utility ratepayers via IPL. Competitors to BlueIndy are at disadvantage now. The story isn't "how green can we be" but how creative "financing" through captive ratepayers benefits a company whose proposal should sink or float in the competitive marketplace without customer funding. If it was a great idea there would be financing available. IBJ needs to be doing a story on the utility ratemaking piece of this (which is pretty complicated) but instead it suggests that folks are whining about paying for being green.

                                            4. The facts contained in your post make your position so much more credible than those based on sheer emotion. Thanks for enlightening us.

                                            5. Please consider a couple of economic realities: First, retail is more consolidated now than it was when malls like this were built. There used to be many department stores. Now, in essence, there is one--Macy's. Right off, you've eliminated the need for multiple anchor stores in malls. And in-line retailers have consolidated or folded or have stopped building new stores because so much of their business is now online. The Limited, for example, Next, malls are closing all over the country, even some of the former gems are now derelict.Times change. And finally, as the income level of any particular area declines, so do the retail offerings. Sad, but true.

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