Blue fins in the sky

December 11, 2008
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One Indiana Square is getting its new fin features, designed in part to give the building a more vertical and less boxy profile. They also are adding a splash of color. What do you think? (IBJ Photos/Robin Jerstad)
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  • Why don't you do what you do best, or should I say... ignorantly best Cory? Take off some of the comments on the other discussion forum, because they are deemed rude and innappropriate without relation to the subject matter. I'm sure you will get overtime pay if you do this.
  • Based on current progress, I'm sure it'll be an improvement we can all appreciate let's say, oh, how about in time for us to host the Superbowl in 2012? In other words, by the time this project is completed the building will have another name change. I think it's actually possible that the new JW Marriott will be hosting guests by the time these guys are finished!
  • I'm not sure that's quite fair. The project was announced in July 2007, and if you look at the Skyscraper City thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=500482&page=9) you can tell that virtually all of the visible progress has occurred since mid-January. I would guess that the project will be done by the end of the summer, at about the two year mark since the project began. A watched pot never boils, I guess.
  • People just like to complain. I'm sure George Orwell has a lot of experience re-skinning an occupied skyscraper.

    For me, I like it, and they can take however long it takes to get it done right.
  • Yes but one would think that re-skinning a skyscraper would go faster than building a new one...and a tower that size could be built from scratch in under two years...it is probably more frustrating for the tenants in the building (I'm across the street at the Chase tower and watch the progress from time to time)
  • If I'm not mistaken I believe these blue fins will host LCD or LED lights at night!
  • Yeah, but one of the reasons that a skyscraper can be built from scratch at a reasonable speed is that work can begin on finishing lower floors while the upper floors are still under construction. Also, working on an existing and occupied building can provide additional challenges. I know nothing about construction. Maybe it's indefensibly slow. But my guess is that the exterior makeover will be done within less than two years after it began. Not so bad.
  • Does anyone know if a sign will be added after completion?
  • When I read this title, I assumed that some downtown establishment was adding a giant tuna sign to our skyline.
  • Everyone is forgetting that the initial damage occurred during the Final Four and it took them over a year to even come up with a design to start working on. This has taken way too long; the city should've stepped in and made some timeline demands. This would never happen in Chicago!

    It is fair to make comments regarding how slow this has taken. We're approaching three years since the straight-line winds damaged the building. Also, have you seen the billboards for University of Indianapolis? They have a picture of downtown in them and they had to keep the metal temporary fix in the photo for this building. It just looks bad.

    I also heard that some part of the new facade is going to light up.
  • Silly to say that it would never happen in Chicago...it happens everywhere. Construction projects drag on without deadlines. I guess that's just part of development.
  • Yes, we have proven time and again that we are great architectural armchair quarterbacks, but I do not pretend for one moment to know a thing about structural engineering, and if it were easy to re-skin a building than I think you would see it happen more often.

    As for Chicago, I think the Windy City probably has more protocol in place for wind damaged buildings. Despite the fact that this building was poorly engineered in the first place, you cannot expect a building owner to have a contingency plan for something like this.

    It's going to get done. Whining about it will prove NOTHING!
  • Exactly right, indyfan.... and anyone who doesn't think that it happens everywhere should pay a visit to Las Vegas. I drove over last weekend and was AMAZED at how many stalled projects are just sitting there due to the financial crunch or some other reason. And I always thought the gambling industry was fairly immune to the woes of a soured economy....
  • With just one side finished it's hard to say how much of an eye soar this might be.
    But I agree with the others who are saying it's better than not doing anything and
    we need to give them some time. Can't believe someone has not suggested this
    being a bill board for the Colts. The color seems to match quite nicely!!!
  • I agree, judging this building now would be like critiquing the Mona Lisa while still a sketch. Lets wait till its done to start suffering the slings and arrows.

    I believe this project was held up for a time over a dispute with the insurance company. As far as construction, I would rather build a new building over a retro fit anytime. Nothing is as it was designed. What they are doing is moving out tenants to temp quarters, building the new facade out a foot or two, demo'ing the old facade and then moving the tenants back in. Imagine doing that for multiple tenants over multiple floors. A nightmare for any owner.
  • Now... can they do something about the One American (formerly AUL) building?
  • I have been a worker at Indiana Sqaure since '95. I remember what a nightmare it was when we were displaced after the damage. My understanding that the initial construction was slow due to manpower. The company Wilhelm had to finish up another project. Then you saw the difference at the beginning of 2008. They are moving along very well. The only thing I'm not looking forward to is when they have to come inside the tenant space to remove the old glass, etc. It get's updated every now and then but I started a thread on the progress here...
    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=500482
  • Slow as progress has been, I think we all have to admit that the results are surprisingly good.
  • One Indiana Square is in white letters across the top in this photo. McKnight is the property management company.

    http://www.mcknightdevelopment.com/port_ind_1indsq.html#
  • It also looks like they fixed the base of the tower too in that last rendering! :)
  • FINS TO THE LEFT!!! FINS TO THE RIGHT!!! LEFT!!! RIGHT!!! LEFT!!! RIGHT!!! LEFT!!! RIGHT!!! LEFT!!! RIGHT!!!
  • How long will it take First Indiana/MI buildign to replace the broken windows from the scaffolding fall this summer?
  • If it is waiting for an insurance claim...probably until the market recovers.
  • I agree with GeorgeOrwell - this is really taking a very long time.
  • The building's base still needs work. The tower & base look like two separate buildings. The white colonnade still looks dated. The top of the building needs a contemporary spire, atenna or angled or stepped roof form so it stands out better on the skyline. The glass pattern and colors are very nice.
  • I think for being a boring box, the redesign is going to do wonders for this tower. The renderings on McKnights page really do it justice. As for the fins, Cory are you able to get some clarification as to the affact they will have at night? Are you able to get a night rendering of what this will look like?

    As for the mention of AUL, I wish that they would outline the building with piping simialr to a few towers in Dallas. Since the AUL building has some angles that kinda get lost, they could accentuate that and really add to the skyline night appearence too!
  • I truly don't get the fins thing you refer to. But, I do hope there are some lighting effects that everyone keeps reffering to.
  • 1/29/09 Memo from Property Management

    Exterior

    The installation of the new curtain wall on the North and South sides of the building will be completed in the next 30-45 days. Prep work on the East and West sides is progressing on schedule. It is anticipated that the new glass panel installation on these two sides will start by March 1st. The exterior work is projected to be finished in June of this year.

    Interior

    The interior design for tying into the new exterior has and continues to undergo intense study and evaluation in search of a final design. The target date for finishing the interior plan is April 1, 2009. As of now, the interior work is to start 2 months after the completion of the exterior or August of this year. There will be a lot more information to come in the near future regarding this phase of the project.


    Suite Visitations

    Beginning in the next week, individuals from the architecture and design firm of Lamson & Condon will be visiting tenant suites to document existing perimeter conditions in preparation for the interior work starting, as mentioned above, later this year. These individuals will present a picture ID and will have a visitor badge. Please work with them to schedule appropriate times for them to visit your suite.

    Thank you for your cooperation.

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