The back-and-forth continues between city planners and the developer of a new Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant along Washington
Street downtown. Franchise owner Pete Watson has offered to tone down the facade a bit, offering this picture:
It appears pretty much the only change is the color, as you can see by checking out old posts here and here and here. (Sorry for the image quality; they didn't submit digitally, so this is a photo of a photo.) What
do you think?








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Ah well, at least it's progress in the right direction.
Windows should be bigger like most of the downtown building windows are.
They've ignored the potential of this location as a prime pedestrian destination.
They've squandered an opportunity to add to the street life downtown (for better examples see: Andrus O'reilly's, Coaches Tavern, Slippery Noodle, Champps, Rock Bottom, MacNiven's, etc.)
They've essentially turned their back to the street and burrowed into a dark hole. It's completely uninviting.
They could've had one of the best nightlife spots downtown, but they've taken 2 steps back and ruined a great location.
Might be one reason might not.
Considering that their direct competitor in the wings-and-beer biz (Hooters) has an outdoor deck and big north-facing windows, I agree with those who think B-dubs is missing a big opportunity (and full of it regarding the need for a dark interior and no exterior windows).
And puhleeze...get rid of that stone.
First of all they should invest a full awning covering the entire length of the store front with ample indirect lighting.(It highlights there location and performs a necessary function)
Second get rid of the striped pillars, they look cheap and out of place with its surroundings.
Third get rid of the faux stone and enlarge the windows.
Two words:
Curtains
Blinds
Then again it's a BW3, the non-descript building has been vacant for years, and not everything downtown has to be perfect and uniform -- isn't that the joy of city life?
Either way, hasn't this been dissected enough? Glad there's some compromise. This is all about crappy wings for the masses, beer, and sports on the tube. Should be simple enough.
No, because the city is conservative. This design or joke of a design is considered a design in Indy standards.
Viva la difference!
They left little boxes of yellow around the light fixtures when they painted?!? They're not even willing to remove the damn light fixtures to repaint?!?!
This is an insult. You can paint a turd any color but it's still a turd.
I sincerely hope this doesn't get passed.
Dam, you are dumb.
Anyway, the food is garbage.
For a true redesign, BW3 needs to pick one theme or the other and start again. If forced to choose, I think most people would prefer the awnings as a starting point over the tacky faux stonework. The awnings could work with more harmonious material choices for the rest of the facade. Right now, including the upper floors of the building, there are too many disharmonious aesthetic styles and they're sinking the whole ship.
This design is also drawing attention to the wrong things, such as the emergency exit, by fragmenting the awnings. The divided awning is visually interesting, but they way they've executed it is all wrong.
Why on earth does an ugly emergency exit have its own cute little awning and lights? Does the designer want people to notice how ugly it is? Why does it have as much prominence as the main entrance?
The funny thing about the awnings is that they're completely decorative. They serve no functional purpose.
Don't give in Indy planners! Get this atrocious design fixed!
And Bob, you spelled DAMN incorrectly in your sentence : Dam, you are dumb.
I love irony...
And the tenant just wants the store to open as soon as possible so he can begin operating. The rent will be due soon and it’s hard to pay rent when you have no revenue stream. So he will obviously want to agree with the designer and attempt to persuade the city that this design meets the Regional Center Review Guidelines, which it does not.
I think the landlord needs to step in and straighten out the tenant. With any luck, there is a clause in the lease that allows for rent deferment in the event that permits are not approved. Clearly, the tenant is overly worried about the rent issue – otherwise this design fiasco would have been resolved weeks ago.
Bob, dam has an n on the end.... spell correctly if you are going to call someone dumb.
SE Guy -- the vomit and urine was around the cornere where all the homeless were before an open business moved in.
Quit the personal attacks on the guy that are without merit. If you you don't like B-Dubs or how it looks. Take your Subway coupon and wait in line at the nearest Subway with Jerrod.That will free up a seat for all of us bubba's. Isn't this a city/state full of bubba's?
If anyone paid attention, almost everyone that was asked by Channel 6 about it said they couldn't understand the problem or the problem with the look. Must've been a whole bunch of bubba's.
See ya'll when the beers flowin'.
Don't get me wrong.
This is a great forum.
But quit wasting my money when you should be working on your projects.
Do it on your own time.
Happy Now!!!!!
Some people just need to let the little things go.......
What I found peculiar about the Wash Sq location is that it actually has an outdoor seating area without any televisions. I was under the impression that the BWW business model didn't include anyone who wasn't in a dark room and facing a TV screen.
The bigger issue is...what were you doing outside 465? There's a Target at Glendale now. :-)
This is not some simple businessman who just didn't know the laws. Mr. Watson is a sophisticated developer who has opened up several BW3 franchises throughout the city. He is well-represented by good attorneys. He KNEW the law and chose to break it because he thought the city would let him get away with it. Now, that he has been held to account for his willful violation of the law, he would love to rely on apologists like you to make the lame accusation of the city picking on some poor businessman. BS! Most people in Indianapolis don't cotton well to people thumbing their nose at the law the rest of us are supposed to follow.
Mr. Watson should have followed the law in the first place. Now, it will cost him time and money to get into compliance--and I and many others have ZERO sympathy for him.
You also spelled RID with an E