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City-County Council approves 2011 budget

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The Indianapolis City-County Council on Monday night voted to pass a 2011 budget of $1.1 billion, including controversial funding for the Capital Improvement Board.

The overall city budget calls for cutting $22 million in local spending—reducing expenditures to roughly 2008 levels. That includes measures such as eliminating a police recruit class and implementing a pay and hiring freeze.

The CIB's $73.1 million budget, which included a $10 million payment to the Pacers for the operation of Conseco Fieldhouse, passed by a 15-14 vote. Jackie Nytes was the only Democrat to vote yes. Libertarian Ed Coleman voted no and all others voted along party lines.

The Pacers funding has been a dicey issue during city budget hearings against the backdrop of financial shortfalls for the Indianapolis-Marion County Public Library and the IndyGo bus system.

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  • wake-up indy citizens
    we are being used by the people in charge of out tax-dollars.cib needs to have a full audit,lets see tax-dollars owned by the tax-payer,as i remember working for the city 28 yr.if you handled city monies,you were open for an audit by the state board of accounts,and this information is public information,why do we not see this info,and just how much are the salaries of the board members,free sporting tickets and all the free lunches,hotels,parking,who is getting these items,where is this being shown other items or on contracts.another smoke and mirrors scam.wake up taxpayers it is your money,......demand an audit and list on internet,newpapers lets see it in full,come on state board of accounts,you audit the city employees,who handle money,chump change not millions of dollars
  • RECALL NOW!!
    Good job Indy -- no cops, no libraries but $10M to the Pacers without ever having seen their books. All you fools out there writing about what would one do without the Pacers, who would keep the lights on at Conseco, etc, you should be ashamed of yourselves for not demanding the Pacers make public their finances as they are hijacking the public's money -- I mean YOUR money. the team should be re-named the Fleecers.

    Don't just vote against the bought and paid for council members -- start a recall movement and really take it to them. What are you passive citizens of Indy waiting for? This is brazen , broad daylight theft of your money and your city yet everyone seems to sit idly by. Where are the citizen lawsuits calling for the Pacers to open their books before taking your hard earned cash? Don't forget, the "small market" Pittsburgh Pirates are making buckets of money despite public perception -- how do we know? Someone leaked their financials to the press over the summer. Where are people within the Pacers organization with some honor?

    One last thing -- let's hear it from the Republicans again about how Obama is socializing the country. If he is a socialist, then what does one call the Republican behavior in Indy? Crony capitalism? Please remember this when you vote next Tuesday...

    Start the recall now!!
  • GOP in a nutshell
    Remember, the GOP if they first don't deceive, they will lie, lie, lie again and again. They think people will start believing in them like Jackie Nytes.

    Rub a dub dub, three men in a tub, Ballard, Mitch, and Jackie Nytes, Knaves all three...
  • Had Enough
    If you want the details of the original Pacer's agreement, go to Had Enough or Republican Paul Ogden's blog on the original agreement.
  • Question
    When it was originally built what was the long range plan? How did it come to this?
    • Of course we will never know
      How much it actually costs to run Conseco Fieldhouse, how much in revenues the Pacer organization makes off of the building or what it would cost to operate without the Pacers....because Ballard and his cronies cut a deal to satisfy Bob Gand and Joe Loftus without every asking for the information. We know how much we will save by closing libraries, and it anin't $10 million a year.
      • Entertainment
        I am sure what PML is trying to say is not that Indy can't find other entertainment outside of the Pacer's but that a majority of the money used to run Conseco comes from the Pacers (albeit they don't have stellar fan attendance and ticket sales), they still are paying to play and run the Fieldhouse. the organization isn't making money that is for sure and I think they are running in the red at that! I doubt the Ice, or another Arena Football team (we already had one and it didn't work out so well) would be able to bring the backing the Pacer's have been able to do over their tenure and thus Indianapolis would end up pouring more money into keeping the field house running. Much more than the $10m they just gave to the Pacers. Maybe the city needs to put some fire to the toes of the Pacer's in order to bring some new management that will instil some sense of state pride in the team - bring the team back to the glory we new them in during the early 90s.
      • Pay more or less
        The building has over 200 events each year. The Pacers play about 40 home games. I would bet you could find new entertainment options...hockey, Arena Football. By the way, who would want the Pacers?
        • Pacers
          Yes it stinks that we are cutting hours at the library, but has anyone reported on what the long term cost would be for the city and ultimately the citizens of Indianapolis, if the Pacers left? Sure we are subsidizing running Conseco, but if the organization closed shop here in Indy then all bills would end up being footed through other funds (read: taxes and more cuts). I bet the CIB looked into this option and found it more taxing for us citizens. Plus we would have another empty building in Indianapolis. Not really what we need.
          • Rick - its the Republicans
            Easy way to remember who to vote against....Grag Ballard, Jackie Nytes and the Council Republicans.
          • knee jerk reaction?
            Rick, shouldn't you find out how they voted first? JoAnn Sanders is an at large councillor and she voted against this.
          • bastards
            I can't believe write $10 million checks to billionaires when we can't even keep the libraries open. Unbelievable. Note to my councilman and all at-large councilmen: I'll be voting against you at each opportunity.

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            1. It is nice and all that the developer grew up here and lives here, but do you think a company that builds and rehabs cottage-style homes has the chops to develop $150 Million of office, retail, and residential? I'm guessing they will quickly be over their skis and begging the city for even more help... This project should occur organically and be developed by those that can handle the size and scope of something like this as several other posters have mentioned.

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