Denver sniffing at Tinsley

October 3, 2008
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jamalAt last, there could be a team interested in trading for Indiana Pacers castaway guard Jamal Tinsley. League sources said the Denver Nuggets are interested. Nuggets officials like Tinsley’s defense and think he would fit in nicely playing alongside shooting guard Allen Iverson, league sources said.

If a trade is pulled off, the Pacers could get some combination of forward Chucky Atkins, center Steven Hunter and/or shooting guard J.R. Smith. At 34, Atkins, who averaged 4.7 points per game last year, is a little long in the tooth. Hunter, who turns 27 on Halloween, could be more trick than treat. Last year, the 7-footer averaged 2.1 points and 1.5 rebounds per game. J.R. Smith, 23, has a lot of on-court upside, but is young and unpredictable—in more ways than one. Last year, the three-point-shooting specialist averaged 12.3 points per game during the regular season and 18.3 during the playoffs. The Nuggets are least likely to throw Smith into the trade offer. But the youngster only has one year left on his contract, and flirted with leaving Denver this summer as a restricted free agent. Smith said this summer he received interest from two Eastern Conference teams before deciding to return to the Nuggets.

After Pacers co-owner Herb Simon announced Tinsley must go this past off-season, the 30-year-old point guard who averaged 11.9 points and 8.4 assists per game last season, has not been allowed to be with the team. Pacers basketball operations chief Larry Bird said buying out Tinsley’s contract is not an option. If not traded, the Pacers will be forced to pay Tinsley $6.75 million this year, $7.2 million next year and $7.5 million during the 2010-11 season.
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  • Are the contracts of any of those players guaranteed? In other words, would be be stuck with some other undesirable player if we get one or more of them for Tinsley? It sounds like we are just fine without him but it would sure be nice to get out from under his contract.
  • Please please please......even if all we get is a David Thompson rookie trading card and a Dan Issel throwback jersey.
  • Fishers Gal, All NBA contracts are guaranteed. That is the whole problem in this equation. That is why the Colts could get rid of Johnson so quickly - no guarantees. I think under the next labor agreement there needs to be compromise on both the owners and players. Guarantees that maybe don't exceed a certain number of years based on your years in the league. There also needs to be a morality clause in the contracts.
  • NBA salary caps and trade mandates are relatively complicated. But I will offer some explanation. Within a relative range, the salaries of the players traded must match. In other words a player due to be paid $6 million can be traded for two players due to be paid $3 million in the year they are traded. In the case of the Pacers deal with Denver, the thing you have to remember is that Atkins' and Hunter's contracts expire after the 2009-10 season. Hunter's could expire after this season. He has a player option for next season. That means the Pacers could get out of some of the salary that would go to Tinsley as early as next year and all of it in two years as opposed to three years if they keep Tinsley. Doug is right, though, all NBA contracts are guaranteed, it's just a matter of how long their term's are.
  • This is exactly what the Pacers need. Move Tinsley, clear themselves from that headache and bring in a crop of players to sort through in Training Camp.

    This WILL be a very deep team regardless of what happens. Maybe not stacked at the Post position, but formidable with Hibbert/Rasho/Foster/Murphy to give it any combo of Bigs down low.

    I really think the NBA should amend its rules to allow the trading of Draft Picks W/ an assigned Value. While a few players coming in could benefit a few holes we have to fill, we really just need to part ways with Tinsley and call it a day. Getting Atkins or Smith would be a plus, but we have a stacked Training Camp roster as is.

    Those expiring contracts are good though, never underestimate an expiring contract for a rebuilding team that already has depth.

    We would essentially be wiping off Tinsley and O' Neals scary contracts in 2 simple moves by next summer with room to breathe and a roster to build upon.

    Ladies and Gents, welcome to Positive News in Pacers Country... been awhile since we've had a string of positive news items regarding the Pacers... but the deal is not inked yet.

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