
Kansas-based restaurant chain Houlihan's has inked deals for new diners at Castleton Square Mall and Hamilton
Town Center and hopes to open two other restaurants in Plainfield and Greenwood. The chain also has a location downtown, although
the new restaurants will look much different (new prototype is shown here). Houlihan's is the second chain to start downtown
before expanding in the suburbs; Johnny Rockets has similar plans. In other food news, Minneapolis-based Granite City Food
& Brewery is expected to open its first central Indiana restaurant at the northwest corner of 96th and Meridian streets.
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Some friends from out of town staying downtown for the FFA convention were most impressed by...
Yat's at 54th and College.
(They were tired of downtown chains.)
BTW, one unrelated bit of news. It looks like the LoBill brand has been officially retired by Marsh. The LoBill at 71st and Michigan is now a Marsh Hometown Market
Please gather your dollars, and grant them as seed money for a wishful restauranteur.
Ingredients for a successful diner/restaurant:
- Desire, talent, unique theme
- Business plan
- Start-up $$
- Excellent chef/cooks/staff
- Successful marketing/word-of-mouth
As down as you ALWAYS are on Indy, why do you even bother to post here??? It's almost like you have some sick anti-Indy agenda. To your post, the culture thing is way off, and a 'grass is greener' type of mentality. There is plenty of culture here and a lot of tradition in this city (holiday season, month of may, basketball, etc.). Maybe it doesn't suit you, but that's fine by me. Those who enjoy the culture and SEE it, are those who embrace it. Clearly you do not.
I just hosted a group of friends from So. Cal (LA) and spent an evening downtown and an evening in BR. Both nights they had nothing but great things to say about Indy and one even noted, I wish we had this kind of old city charm in Southern California.
Now I know none of us living here would consider Indy to have 'old city' charm, especially with cities like Cincy, Cleveland, and Chicago nearby, but it's all in the eye of the beholder. There's a lot more that Indy can offer than a lot of our competition, so get off the 'Indy s*cks' trip. It's SOOOO old.
This is the location Weber Grill originally wanted to use, right? Hope Carmel enjoys Granite City...
Dustin, if you don't like it or our city, take a shut up pill and go post elsewhere. I agree with Jobu, it's getting very old and time to stop. Your meanderings into mindlessness are enough to make a person gag.
actually, there was a Houlihans at Glendale for years before the downtown location opened.
Chains go where the money goes, and the fact of the matter is that they are a cheap alternative to cooking. The problem with most home grown restaurants is that they are too expensive for the average person. Yes, I understand Yats is an example, but when you look at the local restaurants you have place like St. Elmo's, Elements, R Bistro, etc. These are not restaurants you frequent when you just don't feel like cooking.
I also think one of the big problems is the lack of a culinary school here in town. There really were not that many home grown chefs. However, now with IvyTech, Indianapolis Business College, and the Arts Institute of Indianapolis, I think we'll get more local growth over time.
As for Dustin: Don't you think that maybe if you guys stopped fighting back he might lose interest? Every time you rail against him, you just validate his existence.
My dollars go to Yat's, Bazbeaux, MCL, Jockamo's, Aristocrat, Illinois St. Food Emporium, Urban Element, Side Street Deli, City Market stands, and a Japanese place. All locally-owned. When I do fast food, it's generally at locally-owned Subway and Mickey D's franchises.
Is it okay if I whine about chains some more?
Ok, you brought your little friends from Los Angeles and you obviously were keen on the idea of sharing their viewpoints on here... hmm... for other Indy folks to see? I wonder what you are trying to do here... are you advertising Indianapolis free of charge? You should call Tamara Zahn and tell her to pay you for it. It's just not right. Otherwise you'd be just a little bug we all step on in the summer time whether we realize it or not. In case you don't get my meaning, it's actually a metaphor. Please don't get very upset and seriously offended, because I wouldn't want you to refrain from your usual belittling skills. You need it.
There are many downtown and near downtown independent restaurants.
I would be interested to see if there is a study showing the percentage of chains vs. non-chains in major cities. I doubt we are much higher percentage than our midwest neighbors. Cincy, Chicago, Columbus etc... All seem to have their fair share of chains.
It is also interesting that many people lump all chains in one hopper. Not distinguishing among McDonalds vs. Cheesecake Factory vs. Scholars Inn. All chains, just different levels and types. I would consider Applebees a chain, but not in the same hopper as say the Melting Pot.
Chain, chain, chain...chain of fools
Indy's new theme song...
But this conversation often gets absurd--as if there's absolutely no locally owned place to eat a decent meal.
Fact is, If you chose to eat at a different downtown restaurant every work day for a month, you could do it. In fact, you could do a different GOOD downtown restaurant every day for a month. And you wouldn't even have to stretch to Mass Ave.
I'm not saying you could afford it, but you could do it. (Forgive my spellings, this is top of head)
Week 1
BARcelona
India Garden
Stars
Slippery Noodle
Mikado
Week 2
Dunaways
Badaboomz
Greek Islands
Iaria's
Shapiro's
Week 3
Harry & Izzy's
14 West
King David's Dogs
Acapulco Joe's
Ayres Tea Room at the State Museum
Week 4
Patachou
Bosphorus
Take your pick at City Market
Red Eye Cafe
Andrus O'Reilly's
An anyone who works downtown can probably add five or ten more to the list.
So let's be realistic.
My experience with some other cities is that the chains tend to cluster in the boulevard and Interstate developments in the upscale suburbs...places that look like 86th, 96th, US31, and the like. You wake up in one of the chain hotels and look out the window...and you can't tell if you're in suburban Chicago or suburban Philadelphia or suburban Atlanta.
Locally-based mini-chains like Union Jack's, Scholar's Inn and Yat's and Patachou are different critters than big national chains. They grow because they provide an experience geared to one local or regional market and because of word-of-mouth.
And rush, I drove my friends from their downtown hotel up to north College so they could see how real people (who can't afford $500K condos and rehabs) live in Indianapolis.
When I travel to other cities (usually for business), I generally eat at chains if I don't know anyone in the area to recommend a good local eat. At least it guarantees that you know what you're going to get. I'd hate to spend money at a local restaurant and not enjoy the meal... and nothing's wrong with a good chain restaurant (there are many bad ones, but there are many bad local restaurants as well)
not trying to split hairs but Barcelona is a small chain based in St. Louis. Indy is its third location.
But, on a serious note, can we please stop with these pointless personal attacks on people on this blog. This blog has been a great opportunity to sensibly discuss what is going on with development in this city. I understand not everyone shares the same views on Indianapolis and that's fine. But you can't simply post Indy sucks without suggesting any constructive criticism or giving valid reasons for your thoughts. There are multiple I-hate-Indy-blogs where anyone can be as subjective and irrational as they want to be.
Is this the same as the location in glendale shopping center ? . This is a step above a fast food chain but most people would support quality rather than speed. Remember when we had The Castle, Caves Caverns, Sam's Subway(best baked potato) :La Scala, .
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