Indianapolis, cold in winter?

May 20, 2008
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Does Indianapolis experience winter? NFL owners meeting in Atlanta today could be forgiven for wondering, if all they knew about Indianapolis was the information in the Super Bowl bid package.

The 30-plus pages in the executive summary have plenty of images of trees and grass in all their green glory.

Snow? Slush? Not in this document. In a tip of the hat to reality, there is one rendering of revelers clad in light sweatshirts.

This sales job brings to mind Chicago’s success when luring Boeing’s headquarters from the rain forests of Seattle. Not much cold or wind in Chicago, the Boeing execs were told.

Indianapolis winters aren’t that brutal. Yet, there’s a reason that giant bonfires are part of Indianapolis’ pitch.

What do you think?

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  • We haven't had a cold winter in, what, a decade? Indiana: America's new Garden Spot!
  • This city's PR and development agencies always paint this town green with trees and green/open space in their promotional literature even when the stats and reports present a very different real-world picture. Their photos routinely emphasize green foregrounds-- even when those foregrounds are the only greenspace anywhere in the vicinity. If we're going to advertise it, then we should provide it instead of creating false impressions.
    These same agencies are always quick to reflexively oppose any citizen effort to preserve or create downtown parkland. Shameful hypocrisy.
  • Downtown Indianapolis has plenty of greenspace! It frustrates me when people think it doesn't. White River State Park, Am Legion Mall, MiIlitary Park. This is in addition to plenty of plazas, pocket parks and even lot where people have yards. Indy is in no need nor lacking greenspace. Indianapolis as a whole has great amounts of parkland (many of it underutilized, some needing tlc) and greenspace. Indy is not a concrete jungle, in the least.

    I do believe that we need to focus on and take better care of the assesst that we have. Pleasant Run Grenway, Ellenberger Park, Fall Creek Greenway, etc, they all could use significant upgrades. I would love to see Kessler's original plan for Marion County recreated as much as possible.
  • Millersville--

    I agree completely. We have plenty of green space in downtown Indy, and 90% of it remains vacant 95% of the time. Clearly there's a huge demand for it.

    I'd love to say you can ignore the likes of Mr. Kahlo, but he's the one leading the charge to get that inspired, sloped piece of land across from the Indiana Historical Society protected, when it has the opportunity to be an interesting new hotel development with canal-side cafes. He wants it turned to a permanent park. Never mind that 1) the only time the slope is used is for outdoor concerts 12 times a year by freeloading audiences taking advantage of the fact that Indiana Finance Authority doesn't care if they use the land; and 2) there's Military Park, beautiful and empty, right across the street!

    Most at IBJ seem to agree to develop the site. And if Mr. Kahlo is still unhappy, I can think of hundreds of acres of surface level parking lots I'd be happy to see turned into green space. But only if Mr. Kahlo can foot the bill for maintenance, when they too remained neglected.
  • Indiana doesn't have horrible winters in comparison to other places in this country but it isn't the Gulf of Mexico either.
    We are pretty far north and with that comes blizzards, slush, and a lot of snow.

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