Is Obama an 'elitist?'

April 14, 2008
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Barack Obamaâ??s poll numbers are in freefall in Pennsylvania following his comments about â??bitterâ?? small-town folks turning to guns and religion to cope with losing manufacturing jobs.

A poll in that state conducted late last week and Sunday� shows him down 20 points from Hillary Clinton. He had nearly caught up with her before his remarks were made public last week.

If you missed it, Obama said job losses cause people to "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Hillary Clinton, who like Obama desperately wants to win Indianaâ??s Democratic primary on May 6, has pounced on the comment as â??elitist,â?? and now John McCain is using the speech to rile up potential donors to his campaign.

Naturally, Obama wants the story to go away, and has said his comments are being misinterpreted. Today he said it was distracting from more important issues.

What do you think?
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  • People are over reacting to his comments. When someone loses their job, they do one of two things...

    1. shrugs it off and search for new job.

    2. find a reason or make excuses to why they lost their job.

    sometimes people go from one to the other and back, depending on what is going on and how easy it is to get a job.

    If you look at the crime rate and compare it to how these people are getting paid, there is a good enough corolation (sp?) between the two to atleast say that if people aren't doing enough in the job market, they will more likely resort to other means to make ends meet. By all means, I am not saying that this is what Obama is or isn't saying, we should just look at the numbers and compare with what he is saying before we point fingers in one direction or another.
  • Obama seems to be able to use carefully selected rhetoric to defuse his misspeaks. Look behind the lines. As any politician, he doesn't want to be held accountable for anything he shouldn't have said or anything someone else said that he wants to distance himself from.

    When he deflected the inflaming speech from his pastor, he excused it saying that he doesn't believe everything his pastor does. Here's what I wonder, what about his children? How about their exposure to all of that hate speech being resonated into their young, impressionable minds?

    There was no more excuse for that miscue than the current one. Obama is a pied piper in a suit. Beware, folks, you may get more than you bargained for.
  • More than we bargained for? Kinda like Mitch Daniels or this new goofball we call a mayor?

    Nobody seems to get the big picture.... Given the state of our union, politics as usual has proven not to be working, we NEED someone who's not entrenched in Washington, and IMO Obama is the only choice. McCain will keep us broke and at war. Hillary will play the politics flip-flop game until she digraces her own party and politics in Washington in general.
  • Quick poll point: All of today's latest polls show that the comments appear to have had no effect on the PA numbers. I dont know where free fall came from, maybe it was assumed.

    The fact is that what Obama said was dead on. Government has done so little for people over their lives, especially in small town America, that they have turned to concentrating on issues they feel are decernable between candidates. Unfortunately we like hearing what we want to hear from politicians, not what the truth is.

    Issues like this irritate me. Clearly he could have used a better way of stating it as to create less controversy, but the FAKE outrage from both Clinton and McCain... and the people who support them is incredulous. The fact that it is fake probably has something to do with why the polls arent in a free-fall.
  • The truest fact is none-of-the-above. We all rely on government too much and allowed it to run out of control. The Senate is a good-old-boys and girls club for snobs and their pet projects. They no longer see the public as a factor. They haven't done their jobs in years. Just look at immigration, sensible spending, public education, welfare. And on-and-on it goes.

    I focus on Obama because he's just one more elitist snob. And if you think he's going to be any different, just keep on drinking the kool aid and see what happens.
  • After a full year, it looks like we are finally finding the true Barack.
  • He's all about the black separatist agenda.
  • Yeah, that's it....black separatist elitists...an unbeatable constituency. The ONLY reason Hillary is getting support in Indiana is the Bayh connection and his unending ambition to be veep.
  • Wake up people! The increase in crime in Indianapolis is a direct result to the economy, immigration and the dire needs of people not being met in more productive ways. We are no diferent from the rest of rural people...turning to religion and guns to solve the problems around us. We need a major change, and it is not Hillary who states she threw her 'book bag' across the room in 1968 when she heard of the murder of MLK. I was in college in 1968 and challenge any one to tell me they knew what a 'Book Bag' was back then. What she does is mis-represent facts....her facts...(Bosnian gun fire?) what will she lead us to believe when the stakes are much higher? She is no different than what we have had from Bush that got us into the Iraq debacle. Obama is fresh, new and not part of the machine that is running Washington. oh....and I forgot to add....He also tells the truth! Sometimes the truth is too much for some people!

    sign me: encouraged
  • Ditto to Pam's comments.

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