Jack eyes 16th & Meridian

August 21, 2009
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Jack in the Box coming to IndianapolisBurger chain Jack in the Box is working on plans to open its first Indiana restaurant along Meridian Street just south of 16th Street. The chain has worked up preliminary plans to build on about an acre south of the new CVS pharmacy, brokers said. The San Diego-based chain has more than 2,000 locations in 18 states, primarily in the West. Jack in the Box also owns and operates Qdoba Mexican Grill, which has 26 locations here. Property Lines broke the news in March that the chain was interested in opening several restaurants in Indiana. No word yet on where else they are looking. The original post is here.

Update: Another broker tells me the chain's plans for stores in Indiana have been put on hold. Both the chain spokesman and their local broker declined to discuss the plans as I prepared the post above. Stay tuned.
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  • Heck yeah, bring on the Jack in the Crack (they have 24-hour breakfast)!
  • ahhh, I was wondering what they were prepping for that bit of land. Excellent.
  • Okay, now this makes me excited, even though the anti-chain Zombies are bound to get annoyed by this
  • 24-hour food for the IT guys who'll be working two doors down (at Apparatus). Cool!
  • Is this where the IHOP was supposed to be rebuilt?
  • They would find more locations if their broker wasn't demanding to be paid a 6% commission on their deals.
  • Thanks for the update! I was wondering exactly where in Indy JiTB would eventually land. That's a good location.
  • One yumbo yack with queso, please!

    I LOVE the Jack in the Crack! I eat wayyy to much of it out here in L.A. Glad to see my friends back home in Indy will finally get a taste!
  • Great, more suburban crap on Meridian Street. Hopefully it will be more urban than the Walgreens. Thats pathetic, the city should not have allowed this building to be located away from the street. Only in Indianapolis.
  • Great more suburban crap on Meridian Street. The city's premier street. Hopefully it will be more urban than the Walgreens the city allowed to be setback away from the street. Only in Indianapolis.
  • Anti-chain zombies? Um, bite me. Enjoy your mass-produced garbage.
  • I love mass produced garbage... and I think I'm still an OK person!?!?
  • 24 hour fast food breakfast???? --- bring it on JiTB!!!1
  • Great...now that area can become even more suburban.
  • Sad, from personal experience, first sign that a city/state/society in general is going to hell is having a Jack in the Hack's move in...oh well, perhaps I'll invest in the makers of penicillin and antinauseal meds. Further good news, we get to watch those overly creative cone head commercials on TV...can't wait.
  • Great, just what the inner city needs, more fast food trash...
  • Its everywhere Marisol, get used to it. BB, didn't realize fast food joints were necessarily suburban. I can point you to at least one in downtown Chicago, with a drive thru, less than a mile from Michigan Ave.
  • I don't mind, so long as the structure is up to the sidewalk.
  • I'm not a big fan of fast food joints, not because of the quality of the food, but rather the mass production of these restaurants and the lack of local interest.
    They are just pieces of a corporate giant.
    The food itself usually isn't that bad, not everyone can afford a steak for lunch. ;)
    Also, fast food joints don't usually have interest in matching the local urban environment.
  • Socrates, CVS's & Walgreen's don't usually have interest in fitting in well with the urban fabric, but the city and residents spoke up and got CVS's to try to blend in.

    Result: A very well desgined building that has architectural stone and brick features that make it blend in better with the urban landscape. Walgreen's across the street, not so much.

    We can demand more of the corporate franchises - no one ever chooses to. In my old town, we had an ordinance agains certain color schemes and how much goes on on the signs. Thus Rally's had to change which style of sign they wanted to use, blending in with the rest of the places along the road. Push back to the developers, and everyone will be happier.
  • Sounds crummy to have a fast food restaurant going in there. Its not much different from a Hardees or a Burger King. Most people wouldn't be too excited to hear about something like that. Hopefully the plans will fall through. There should be a good mixed use development put on that prime spot -- with parking below and/or behind.
  • BFD. Used to live in Phoenix. One on every street corner there. Hardly worth prime real estate. We had another name for Jack in the Box there. Not to be crude, but somehow the word off worked its way into the title.
  • On North Meridian, we should demand more from the corporate/franchise operations still flocking to the corridor, but shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

    With a daytime employment population of 5-10,000 within a few blocks, and 50,000 cars a day going through the 16th & Meridian intersection, there's a high demand for both drive-through convenience and fast-food or fast-casual dining.

    There are drive-throughs on all four corners now (Walgreen's, CVS, Mickey D's, and Chase) and for several blocks west (White Castle and Hardees). Realistically, that's what landowners will want there as it offers them the highest return on investment with credit tenants. If not Jack, probably BK or Arby's. Even Panera or Qdoba might do well considering the potential lunchtime crowds.

    There's plenty of room for mixed-use development closer to Methodist, and such developments lend themselves better to the smaller independent establishments and local chains like Sahm's, Crystal and Patachou. There's plenty of room for everyone.
  • Wow, more suburban crap in an urban area along the most prominent street in town. Only in Indianapolis. Maybe it would not be so bad if their design and placement adapted to the urban sites. Hopefully it will not be another Walgreens. The City should insist on better solutions for these chains along Meridian St.
  • I think Indianapolis needs more 24 hour dining options of all kinds.
  • roberth - I hate to tell you but it's NOT only in Indianapolis. It's everywhere. Have you been outside the city / state lately? Some cities are better than others about this stuff but still, you're bagging on our city like it's the only one with a typical Jack in Box on an urban corner, and that's just not true. The whole country has parts that I call the United States of Generica as they look just like any other place in any other state - the same chain restaurants, stores, ect. Indianapolis is not the ONLY place where it occurs. In general things are getting better but many of these companies have their corporate branding to consider and they frankly couldn't give a d___ about our desire for design aesthetics. They just wanna make money, folks.
  • I was in downtown San Diego ten days ago, staying in a harborside hotel within a couple of blocks of the Amtrak/trolley station, the county admin building, and the downtown mall.

    Two blocks north of the 16-story hotel was a corner shared by a Jack in the Box and a gas station/car wash. A block south was a single-story Office Depot, surrounded by surface parking...right across the street from the train station and a 30-story tower. Next door to the hotel (between it and the County building's parking lot) was a full city block parking lot...straight across Harbor Drive from the cruise-ship pier.

    It isn't just Indianapolis that has sprawl-form in its downtown. That side of San Diego looks much like the Northwest Quadrant of our downtown, up to about 16th St....but it's much closer to the urban core than 16th, and literally right across the street from the ocean!
  • Firewoman,

    Maybe they're like Don's Guns and they just LOVE to sell hamburgers!
  • Some mixed use development that would include say an Applebee's, some shoddily-built, overpriced Kosene condos and maybe a retailer, say Pier One would really add to the flavor of this area.
  • Still looking for IKEA to show up. We need more carboard sofas.
  • Does ANYONE find either Da Hooey or BLOGojevich to funny? I sure don't... just annoying... VERY annoying and dull.
  • Test
  • On St. Charles Avenue in New Orleans (the city's equivalent to Meridian Street), they have a drive-thru Popeye's, Wendy's, and Burger King within five blocks from the edge of the Warehouse District. And this is a street with a famed streetcar running through the neutral ground. Within the past four years, the city approved a gas station right on Lee Circle, New Orleans' principal downtown roundabout (though nowhere near as central as Monument Circle)--and this was the second gas station on the circle! The first one actually went out of business shortly thereafter, so now the city has a new gas station and a boarded-up one on its most prominent landmarks. The streetcars, filled with tourists, roll by these eyesores as well.

    To suggest that this happens only in Indianapolis is fundamentally incorrect.
  • Hmmm: I'm old enough to remember radio commercials for Bob & Tom featuring Don Pardo saying Bob & Tom...because everyone else is just too d*mn serious.

    I appreciate comic relief; most things in life shouldn't be as solemn as a church service or funeral. I don't perceive Cory's blog as a place to have high tea with finger sandwiches and polite conversation about the weather. :)

    I could be wrong, though. Cory?
  • I like Da Hooey. I don't know about BLOGojevich. He seems too serious.
  • MikeW-
    That is true.
    If we could get Jack in the Box to construct an urban building with no 'theme' that was up to the sidewalks and done in brick and stone I don't think it would be that bad.
  • First Watch Restaurants are also eyeing an Indy location maybe they can replace the IHOP on Meridian street.

    [url]http://www.firstwatch.com/menu.htm[/url]
  • Jack #1
    Hey why did you guys take soo long I can,t whay to see you jack in town soo I can eat one of my fabors JUMBO JACK thank all my panas are happy to know about you guys dont take soo long bye

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