Lucas Oil is looking good

January 25, 2008
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Lucas Oil StadiumMore than 1,000 workers a day in two shifts are scrambling to finish Lucas Oil Stadium, installing everything from seats and concession stand equipment to portions of retractable roof. The executive director of the Indiana Stadium and Convention Building Authority, John P. Klipsch, said the stadium will be finished on Aug. 15, as scheduled. I toured the new stadium yesterday as a guest of the Concord Business Association. Contractors have temporarily enclosed some parts so progress can continue in the cold. Check out more photos from my tour here. The ISCBA plan to tear down the RCA Dome in April as long as they can convince the Colts their new stadium will be ready. What do you think?
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  • Cory,

    How about something on the proposed re-zone in broad ripple? Maybe it won't get shot down this time. Whey they tried to rezone Mcnamara Florist site before it met staunch opposition!

    There was a neighborhood meeting Tues night.
  • ^^^Yes, I also would appreciate any info anyone has in regards to the meeting. Unfortunately, I have a job, unlike many of the busybody nimbys that oppose all development in BR, so I can't ever attend.
  • The LOS is looking good! I love how retro it is!
  • It looks like it will be finished, but at what cost? How far over budget is this giant stadium? I hadn't realized how big it was until I noticed you could see it from the phantom exit for the new airport!
  • You can also see it from Emerson & English, 6 miles west through the urban core.
  • WC, last I'd read, the stadium was on time and on budget.

    Looks great! LOS will be the catalyst for the next wave of downtown development...... the south side of downtown is in for a rebrith.....
  • oops, I meant to write ...LOOKING 6 miles west...

    Obviously Irvington is east of downtown.
  • I like a winning football team in Indianapolis as much as anyone ... well, maybe not ... I really think our values and efforts are misplaced. I see this building everyday coming in on I-70 from the west ... it is a monster. It overstates the obvious. That a pro-football team is of the utmost importance in Indianapolis. This last week I read where only between 47 and 50 % of the freshman class in IPS will graduate from high school. That is outrages. What kind of community are we trying to produce? I'll watch the Superbowl just like a lot of you will but I will be thinking about the vast number of members of our community that will be living without a minimum education.
  • We can't MAKE kids graduate by spending more money on schools, and it's a fallacy to imagine that not building LOS would somehow translate into more HS graduates.

    The only thing that will fix the graduation rate is for fathers to raise their sons. (Grad rate from IPS for boys, both black and white, is about 25%. Percentage of white kids born out of wedlock, 40%. Black, near 80%. The math is pretty straightforward.)

    This is a social problem that has nothing to do with football or stadiums. Just raise your son, or your wife's son, and make clear to him by example that education beyond HS is absolutely necessary. It requires effort: educating yourself, then 18 years of dedication to child-rearing, and a few personal sacrifices in those years.
  • heck even just making sure that your kid gets through HS is important!
  • Thank you, CDC Guy! And by the way, the Colts will use LOS less than 10 times per year. The major use of the LOS and its predecessor is other events, including conventions, which support one-half of the sales in the Circle City Mall as well as many restaurants and hotels.
  • Pictures show no ramps or handicap seating like Conseco Fieldhouse?
  • Jim -

    Of course there will be ramps and handicap seating. Code requires handicap seating and accessibilty to be scattered throughout of the stadium at each ticket price point. You have to provide handicap seating all over the stadium.
  • Your correct Say Anything. Code does require accommodation, yet it appears that was not driving design on this project.

    Take a look at these pictures of seating. Looks like a lot of stairs, no ramps, no space for wheel chairs like Conseco Fieldhouse.

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=36125

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  1. liek the rest of America

  2. These quaint,obsessed musings by the stalkers are certainly entertaining, but I'm trying to figure out what, if anything, all the yelping below has to do with Zak Brown.

  3. It's evident that Moffett was pushing the right buttons and corporate America is now trying to squash him. He just wanted to withdraw the free pilot services provided to the company by the pilots to try and put some pressure on a company that has not been interested in negotiating a contract in over 5 years. The company does not provide a contract because not having one has saved them a bundle of money. Shame on any Republic pilots not standing behind their union leader just because things are getting tough, can you not see such strategic moves by the company as putting the last union president in a corporate position and into THEIR pocket. Do you really believe the last union president is so appalled at the attempts by Moffett, do you not remember his oppositions to the company? We stood behind him. It has been proven over and over again for thousands of years without fail, a man cannot serve two masters. Anyone that believes people vote contrary to their paycheck and livelihood deserve to be taken advantage of, the recent statements by the former union president are laughable as he denounces the current union president from his new corporate position. Have you ever seen a drafted sports player score points for his previous team, it cannot be done, he is not on the pilots side anymore, he gets his money a different way now than you and I do, and he should not be allowed to remain on the seniority list. A drafted player brings strength, credibility, tactical knowledge, and a strategic advantage to his NEW team, he would not be drafted or paid were it otherwise. We are all forced to choose only one side to play for and support, not doing so has many references in life such as insider trading and shaving points, all illegal for good reason. This basic fact is why corporate moguls, scientist, and engineers all sign non-discloser agreements and non-compete clauses, as protection in case they are lured into switching sides as our former union president has done. No NFL coach ever drafted a player so that both teams could benefit and better understand each other, they are recruited to win the game against that former team, period. Likewise the company does not recruit the former union president by accident or mutual understanding, its strategy. Don't confuse playing the game with good sportsman-like conduct in support of common business and prosperity goals, with the requirement to only play for one side. Good men we all love and favor fall subject to this manipulation, often without their knowledge, and it is not a betrayal of their friendship to oppose them when they switch sides. If we did not love and trust them, they would not have been chosen and lured to the other side in the first place. The deception by the drafted player is not made at a conscious level, it's just human nature and it's all about money and power which corrupts our ability to be objective and loyal to two masters. This is why our court system created the defense attorney, and why our military created counter intelligence. Its strategy and its propaganda, and it works, and that's why the "powers to be" manipulate the chess pieces by sometimes changing their colors. Some players know they are being manipulated when their color is changed, but it brings them more money and power so they do not care. The rest have good intentions but do not even realize they are being manipulated. This tactic is also known by another name, Divide and Conquer. In battle sending an imperfect message with an imperfect team is obviously not ideal, but it's still being sent by YOUR team, your union leader, a leader that has common goals and common rewards with you, they are the best, because we have elected them to do a job for us. If you are not backing Moffett but believing the spin by those that have recently switched sides, you are taking food out of your own mouth. Showing unity and backing an imperfect situation still results in taking just as much ground, it's about unity and bargaining power. It's not necessary to wait around for that perfect attack because it will never come, the company will spin and attempt to destroy anyone that gets in their way. Ultimately it's not about any specific attack anyway, ASAP or whatever it makes no difference, it is and always has been only about power. If this company cared about safety it would not build pairings with 8 hour overnights, come on, are you that naive? Besides, do you really think Hoffa cares, no, he got a call from corporate America and was squeezed into denouncing Moffett. If he didn't they would spin the safety card against him and the Teamsters National with implication for truckers, future contracts, insurance rates etc...saying something like the Teamsters use safety as a bargaining chip, blah blah blah... Do you really think any pilot is going to do something unsafe for the contract, absolutely not, the only ones threatening safety here is the company with reduced rest, fatigue, and poverty. Do you not find it odd that Hoffa and the Teamsters are opposing a Teamster president publicly? Would the Teamsters National not normally support and work with one of their own? Why did they not sit down and help him strategize, correct any mistakes, and charge ahead? Would the Teamsters National not normally support and leverage a contract for all those pilots that have been paying Teamster dues, isn't that why we have all been paying Teamster dues in the first place? I sure haven't been paying dues so that the Teamsters National could come along and write this kind of an article undercutting our union leader and our unity. Whose side is the Teamsters National really on, it's obviously not the Republic pilots side.

  4. No matter what Moffatt does the company is going to spin it like he is the terrorist and brainwash people like you into believing it, wake up, back your players that are trying to change things for you and your livelihood. Where has Hoffa been for the last 6 years, except collecting our dues. Seriously, do you really think an FO going for upgrade, signed off by a checkairman ready for the upgrade, who then fails, is not even capable of returning as a First Officer.

  5. whoa!

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