There seems to be an increasing uproar in the Indy Racing League paddock that driver Milka Duno is a 200-mile-an-hour hazard
that league officials need to deal with. The crew on Wind Tunnel lambasted the Venezuelan driver after Sunday's Indianapolis
500, and one race commentator called her a moving chicane.
Driver Graham Rahal also had some stern words for Duno, after he was involved in an accident he claimed she caused.
“Milka got in front of me, and she was absolutely clueless,” Rahal said. “She would go low like she was going to let everybody by, but then she’d go fast enough where you can’t get by her. She would come out on track and run you real tight.”
Motorsports insiders said now that Duno is taking out potential stars like Rahal, the caution flag may soon be coming out for her.
Duno’s dust-up with Rahal wasn’t her only on-track incident, with a few other near misses getting less on-camera attention. “She needs to learn how to be a consistent car in traffic—even Marty Roth could handle that,” said Joe Berkemeier, of TrackSide Online.
Since IRL officials all but pulled the plug on Roth’s on-track efforts, some within open-wheel racing’s inner circles are wondering if the same fate awaits Duno. But Duno is still popular with fans and brings some solid corporate partners to the series, including Citgo.
Dennis Reinbold, owner of Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, is standing firm behind his driver. He emphasized that no one from the IRL has called to warn him or Duno about her driving.
“It looked like to me she did a text book pit entry,” Reinbold said of the incident between Duno and Rahal. “She did what she was supposed to do. Before Graham Rahal criticizes, he needs to look at the tape.”
Claims that Duno was a moving obstacle at Sunday’s Indianapolis 500 are nonsense, Reinbold said. He pointed out that she finished 20th, only one lap behind winner Helio Castroneves.
“She was at race pace all day,” Reinbold said. “She’s come a long way as a driver and continues to improve. People need to keep that in mind.”
Reinbold added that Duno’s fan popularity has never been higher, and that he considers her an asset to the series.
“Fans love Milka because Milka loves the fans,” Reinbold said. “She’s an upbeat person who is great to work with at every level.”
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Vi$ion$ is what Tony got!
She may be an issue, or it may be sour grapes from Graham if he is now complaining about her. This is no different then what happens every year in all series.
Hell, they did not kick Kevin Cogan out of the series for taking Foyt and Andretti out before the first turn and that was in the hey day of cart, the best run series to ever declare triple bankruptcy.
If her driving is that bad, the series will know, and they will deal with it.
Keep in mind she has big $$$ from CITGO - who is owned by the Venezuelan dictator who considers the USA a Devil.
Dennis Reinbold's comments were predictable as what car owner is going to criticize their driver in the press?
BTW, the race was a bore this year. Hardly anything of note happened in the front. I rode with Helio for the entire race, online, and he had a very, very easy drive. He only had one instance where he had to make a challenging move. And, it is kind of funny that we are right back where we were before the split. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Indy 500 overnight down 18%.
In a year when NASCAR appears to be shedding viewers, and on a day when the rival Coca Cola 600 was rained out, ratings still declined for the crown jewel of the Indy Racing League.
The 2009 Indianapolis 500 drew a 4.2 overnight rating on ABC Sunday afternoon, down 18% from a 5.1 last year, and down 13% from a 4.8 for the rain-soaked 2007 race. The 4.2 overnight is the lowest for the Indy 500 since at least 1995, and likely marks the lowest overnight ever for the race.
In each of the past two years, final ratings for the Indy 500 fell 10% from the overnight, putting this year's race on pace for a 3.8 final rating. The Indy 500 has never drawn a final rating below 4.1.
When will IBJ realize your blog falls way below their standards?
Duno is nothing more than basic, middle to back of pack fare, but did a credible job this month in substandard equipment for a third-rate team. She deserves better than to have men who know they could never have her, but no doubt dampen many a towel back at home in front of their Milka screensavers, rip her for crimes she did not commit.
Gayhal wrecked himself. Parco did too. Both are sub-prime lineage drivers of no particular promise. That's the truth and it must hurt for their fans, but fact is so.
Really looking forward to Talkin' Terry's spin on that mess.
As for Milkers, from post 4:
Milka was sent to infiltrate IRL by Hugo Chavez. With Indy’s use of ethanol, Hugo’s out to destroy the league. Just my .02.
If that's true, well then Viva Chavez and Viva Milkers! :lol:
What is your take on that 3 wide green flag start? :lol:
(I had to bring that up)...
The IRL: Even Berwickguy thinks they suck. ;)
Wait till next year, CART/CCWS, foreigners, recession, swine flu, NBA playoff, internet, global warming.... what will be the excuse?
The IRL: No, we won't come kicking and screaming.
yeah, your league was real popular and self supporting berwick. LOL
IMS: Brokebank mountain. :lol:
Come on guys, answer a simple question. If cart was such a good business model, then why did it fail three times in just over 10 years?
Now Brett we need you to learn how to be civil. Like many TG/IRL haters I understand you cannot begin an argument without trying to trash the person you are responding to. Sad really. I guess you must have failed speech class.
http://www.1070thefan.com/news/Story.aspx?ID=1097239
I believe the beeping sound you guys hear is those TG/IRL haters backing off their original venomous celebration of TG being ousted as CEO.
Of course, with all due respect to Jobu, anyone who uses Robin Miller as a primary source needs to have their head examined. He is a failed hack who hates IMS, TG, The IRL and anything involving 16th and Georgetown. Not really sure if it is because he got made a fool by AJ, or because he failed as a race car driver, but that shill has lost any credibility he ever had.
As far as SI.com, that is the same org that stated the Colts were moving to LA and that the only thing left was to wait for the Mayflower Vans. I guess we see how that turned out.
I think many reputable reporting organizations use their online alter egos to float these types of stories without double and triple checking their sources just so they can scoop others.
I think bringing in someone like Humpy may be a good thing to run marketing etc... One of the hardest things for an owner of anything is to delegate authority, the second hardest thing is to realize their limitations. The best thing to ever happen to the Colts was Irsay realizing that he was not a General Manager or marketing. The Colts turned the corner when he brought in Polian to be GM. Irsay is a good owner, but he needed the help. Could the same thing help IMS/IRL? Very possibly.
The facts are, and Brett admitted it, cart was run badly. Again, there is a reason there is no longer any major race series run by an oligarchy of team owners.
It would have failed with or without the IRL. Again, you do not fail with the loss of one race, albeit the big one.
With its failure, US open wheel and the Indy 500 would have ceased to exist.
I think now is time for the TG and the Board need to take a long look at how to make the IRL succeed. I think they are on the right path, but it may need a marketer like Humpy in there.
I did not intend to include you in that group, I would never insult someone like that. I understand your wanting to pass on the story, but I list Robin Millers credibility one step above some of the posters on this blog. I can tell you are an OW fan and want what is best for it. We need more people on here like you. People who can make their point without insulting others to try to prove their point.
I occasionally hear Robin on the air with JMV. While I agree with many of your points including him not being a primary source of information, I do not agree that Robin is in the same burrow as the haters that appear on this blog. He makes a lot of positive (and sometimes entertaining) comments about certain drivers and generally supports what open wheel is trying to accomplish, just not the way they are going about it. I'm certainly not here to defend Miller, only to say that he has a modicum of knowledge and a strong allegience with the old school indy drivers.
There are, you know, some good people that didn't cut it as drivers; can we point to Ganassi for example? You do realize you referred to Miller as a hack and a shill. He may be, but shouldn't we leave the defamation to the hate gang?
If Robin is saying good things about the IRL or IMS, or at least some good things, then that is a major change for him from the days he wrote for the Star. I intentionally do not listen or read his stuff because of his past. He may have changed, or it may be he is doing the weather vane thing. Depends which way the wind is blowing.
I did catch one piece Robin wrote on Speed. It was a tribute to Larry Rice. It was a great read. You should check it out.
The facts are, ... cart was run badly.
That's why it was profitable and successful for over 20 years? Something the pathetic 'league' you cheerlead for has never, ever been, and apparently likely never will be.
Again, there is a reason there is no longer any major race series run by an oligarchy of team owners.
Yeah, cause the effer TG couldn't buy it, so he stomped his feet and dun fixed it good.
It would have failed with or without the IRL.
And yet more offensive, foul, abject fiction from you. Just pathetic. Your Hulmanista shillism is so disgustingly blatant.
Why you're welcome, see how easy that was. And hate is your term, I never said I hate TG. I have met him on several occasions and have indirectly worked for him several times. I actually feel sorry for him, he doesn't come off as being very intelligent in person and unfortunately the Hulman-George family is living evidence that no matter how much money you have you can't buy class or get the rotten fish smell out. The only people I was ever taught to hate were the enemies of this great nation. I only hate what has become of the once great Indy 500. A 3.9 TV rating is unacceptable to me as is another Penske win and no passing save for restarts.
5 against Tony: sister, sister, sister, Snyder, Ice atty.
2 for Tony: Tony & Tony's Mama, Mari.
The IRL: We can't even fire people the right way. :lol:
*you cannot make this stuff up folks*
Profitable for 20 years but fails 3 times in the next 12 with the loss of one race. How does that happen? Either the 500 is larger than any of us imagined, or carts business model sucked. In this case, the reason for the change was mainly the cart owners were getting greedy. They had total control and started to suck the life and money out of cart. It was doing this before the creation of the IRL and they accelerated it afterwards.
Yeah, cause the effer TG couldn’t buy it, so he stomped his feet and dun fixed it good. Not really sure how that even responded to my statement. It is a fact that no other major race series is run by a group of car owners. F1, Nascar, NHRA, etc... all have a strong chairman who runs it for better or worse. Not sure how TG is the cause of all that.
And yet more offensive, foul, abject fiction from you. Just pathetic. Your Hulmanista shillism is so disgustingly blatant. And you were doing so well attempting to repute my statements in a almost civil way, then you go back to your old ways of insults and lack of argument. While it is my opinion that it would have failed either way, the facts back it up. Cart, according to you, the most successful and wonderful series failed 3 times in 12 years after losing one major race. Would NASCAR fold without the Daytona 500 or Talladega?
Stan it was a valiant attempt, but in the end you did not prove me to be a lying shill an idiot and liar and whatever else you have called me in the past. You did expose your weak arguments made more pitiful by your relapse into your hate filled speech.
The Hulman-George family is starting to remind me of the Bluth family.
I had heard about the family squabble Sunday from an employee of a close Speedway vendor (racing-type vendor, not turn 4 Lemon Ice vendor). It sounded like such an incredible rumor at the time. I guess the sisters are incredibly mad / out of patience with TG.
The on-track product is good right now. I hope that is not lost.
Bruce Martin reported the outcome of the Tuesday board meeting on the Sports Illustrated site. Here's the current text at SI.
Quote:
What's likely to happen is George will continue in his role as the CEO of the IndyCar Series, while control of the Speedway will go to another member of the family.
Who is blaming cart? I am just saying what alternative would there be without the IRL? cart failed. Cart failed multiple times. Cart failed because of the loss of one race. Without the IRL it still would have failed, unless you are saying the 500 was propping up their whole series, and we would have no US open wheel.
At least I am a fan of something other than seeing what else you can blame on the IRL/TG/IMS. It is funny, and sad to see you guys who must have nothing else to do than to rip on a series you claim you have dislike (hate) and have no interest in. If I have no interest in something, I do not waste hours writing about how much no interest I have in it.
False. Made up fiction again. You persist in idiocy for what? To defend the actions of Tony George? :lol: That's clinically insane.
Without the IRL it still would have failed, unless you are saying the 500 was propping up their whole series,
False, and I said nothing of the sort, you are still making stuff up. Constantly. You should be in a mental ward.
and we would have no US open wheel.
Because everything bad happened because of those evil CART bastards, and Anton the Dense rode in to the rescue throwing his inheritance at the 'problem' to 'save' it. Laughable. Idiotic.
And we do not have anything resembling top level open wheel racing in the US. Atlantics is about the pinnacle now. The earl is a total farce and fraud, like you.
I will give you this much. I have held out hope for several years that things would come together and the ship could be righted. Perhaps I'm a loon for caring, but I grew up next to the place and enjoyed the legends that were made there. Lived down the street from where A J Watson perfected the cars that Roger Ward drove.
But, yesterday, I saw the luncacy that is TG all too clearly in his press conference trying to defend himself from his sisty uglers. It all came back, the stories that I had chosen to ignore, the madness of his mother, who looks likes like a homeless person semi dressed up, to the old house on the grounds that she used to occupy. And, I just realized, you know, you guys are right about many things that are wrong.
Not saying I'm going to join you in the hate club, but I'm definitely seeing things through a different lens, one that I unfortunately abandoned several years ago when I moved away and didn't keep up with things as I once did.
Oh for the good old days under Anton. How did he raise such offspring? Perhaps too much time at the track. When did the inbreeding start that affected this generation????
My GOD man, I feel like I have accomplished something here. YOU HAVE FINALLY SEEN THE LIGHT! :lol:
Tony is an idiot with NO training, NO education, and NO sense on how to run this business. He has surrounded himself with YESMEN every step of the way, becaus everyone had their hands out for the free ride. I also spent ALOT of time there in my younger years, but cannot stand to see what Tony has done to Open Wheel racing in the US as a whole.
He divided, he conquered, and he got played all the way to the point the IRL versionof the Indy 500 is a complete total joke. The only folks who won here are the FRANCE family.
Now Tony has put his entire family's legacy and fortune at risk because of his idiocy.
due - i will gladly you buy you a beer at any time. More workj with you is complete. :)
Name the time and place.
So if cart did not fail because of the loss of Indy, then why did they fail? They had everthing else from what you guys say was a 20 year old successful racing series. And actually it was more like 15.
I never said you said it, I was saying that is the only other thing it could be. Please read carefully before commenting.
Now you presume to put words in my mouth? TG has made mistakes, as has any owner of any company, team, race series what have you. But cart made enough mistakes to kill its series 3 times. that inspite of cars and stars, all races but one, wealthy team owners, loads of sponsors and Push to pass.
Sorry Stan, you try to make some arguments, and I applaud you for the attempt, but you still miss the mark.
My only question on your last post is who divided who? Let me put out some basic comments and see if we agree to them.
Did cart not want to minimize Indy by cutting it from a month to two weeks or less?
Did TG try to get a say on Carts board to protect IMS's interest in the sport?
Did cart refuse?
Did TG start the IRL but do so in such a way that both series could live together peaceably with drivers from both series being able to race both series?
Did cart intentionally schedule all of its races on IRL race weekends including the 500 to insure there would be no cooperation between series?
Did cart not fail three times in less than 15 years with the only difference being they did not have the 500 as one of their races?
These are the facts as I see them that started this whole thing. TG has made mistakes. I again liken him to Jim Irsay. There are a lot of paralels here. Rich kids who inherited much. TG like Irsay wants what is best for racing and for Indy, but I think he needs to turn somethings like promotion over to experts, like Irsay did with Polian. And yes, both overcame drug habits, which takes tough men to do. Many never do overcome them.
And Anthony better show up. Time to meet the loonies Anthony. :lol:
Those aren't 'facts', they are fiction. All of them. With some Hulmanista spin sprinkled on them.
You are completely delusional, and an outright liar and fraud.
Before you start, yet again, with your nonsensical 'prove me wrong' garbage, try proving your fiction first. And that means not throwing Hulmanista claptrap out as 'fact'.
By al means though, keep obsessing about CART. They made a profit and had lots of fans and success. Your lord and savior has been nothing but a pile of fail. :lol:
sc = arrugh The sound earlboy makes when he tries to form a coherent sentence! :D
berwick guy finally sees the garbage of hulman. +1.
Not an issue. I think he gets rather riled up over the rest of us here though. :lol:
Is that really the scotchygen-laced, putrid Hulmanista shill Shaffer? I wouldn't be surprised. Has a lot of the same tendencies toward promoting total fiction and vehemently pretending it is fact.
If/when his eff-ness TG gets the boot, what will Jan do for income? Truck stop glory holes aren't really that good for someone constantly hooked to a scotchygen tank.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2rg13jn.jpg
Sum shill over at espn wrote that things were on the upswing and the future bright LMAO
While I give you credit as the only TG/IRL hater to acknowledge my facts, you have fallen back to your old ways of insult and ignore. Great debate tactics. Everything you say is wrong. Wow, I am sure they teach that in debate class, if not they should. Stan, take a few minutes from your angry rant and prove what I say is wrong. For that matter the rest of you. If you are right, and I am wrong, prove it. Show where my facts are wrong. I thought this would be a good time for all of us to agree how this started.
As Dahooey says, it is all true, look it up, prove me wrong.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/186618-face-facts-irl-crazies-tony-george-is-a-moron?search_query=tony%20george
Sorry, Indyman, I remain a fan of IndyCar and want nothing more than success for those involved, but I have become convinced by recent events that TG is more of a problem than he is a solution.
Graham Gayhal and Parco Andretti?
What's up, hypocrite?
I'm here at our friends home in Cincy taking a couple days off from the Speedway and viewing your photos on their home PC, having introduced them to Trackforum this morning over coffee and Indy talk. These are very nice photos. In fact, I am partially in one of them.
I would just like to take this opportunity to submit that your constant reference to Milka Duno as Milk 'N' Donuts does a great deal to discredit to what otherwise is a nice volume of work. Additionally, your continual referencing of Stephan Gregoire as Steve Gregory is borish (sic) and insulting.
Both are very good friends of mine and have been since the late 1990's. I am delighted they are at Indy with us this year and wish them well. I don't know quite what would compel a person to be insulting as you have but I am beginning to see that is quite common here at Trackforum, where numerous posters appear stuck in some sort of yesteryear time warp, wishing for our sport to return to an era that is long past, while trivializing and marginalizing this era as somehow less. If Ms. Duno does not somehow meet your ideal of an Indy Car racer I suggest you stop coming instead of insulting people you do not feel kinship with.
You are most certainly entitled to express yourself here, of course, but again, the borish (sic) name-calling discredits this otherwise impressive volume of work.
I am guilty of some name-calling, myself, especially regarding Scott Pruett yesterday. If you think that was something, you should hear what he was called around the paddock in the 90's! But I digress. I came to this forum to be a fan, not a particpant (sic) all of the time. It's a much different world from this perspective. I am not sure how long I will remain. But I am seeking to take a higher road when it comes to how I express myself on Trackforum, if I don't end up leaving the format altogether soon. I regret my comments about Mr. Pruett, a man that I have known since his kart racing days in California.
I would ask you take a higher road yourself. If you do not, that is your business. But derogatory nicknames for a gentle lady and racer such as Milka Duno or a gentleman and racer such as Stephan is uncalled for and childish.
They may not reflect your vision of Indy, no pun intended, but they certainly deserve better treatment on this forum.
Your posts often smack of jealousy and resentment. Try a differnt (sic) tact because your photography is excellent and suffers when you debase it with childish name calling.
Sincerely,
Count Tracula
IRL Team Owner (a team of which you have taken many photos).
Post some actual facts, first, instead of the fiction and Hulmanista rubbish you spew constantly and then keep screeching about.
You whine like a little beyotch about 'insults' yet constantly act in the manner of a petulant, smarmy 8-year-old. Not unlike your lord and savior in that regard.
And you aren't in charge here, so stop being a whiner about 'debate' as well. Better yet, go back to 3rd grade where a mentality such as yours would be typical.
Lastly, are you or are you not that Hulmanista shillbag drunken old broken down piece of trash Jan Shaffer aka indytool? Well, are you, punk? :lol:
Sometimes you can just hear some chick saying eeeuuuuu.
And you aren’t in charge here, so stop being a whiner about ‘debate’ as well. Lets see, this is a blog. Blogs are usually for discussing and debating issues. Am I missing something here?
Better yet, go back to 3rd grade where a mentality such as yours would be typical. Lets seem when I was in 3rd grade, I seem to remember people thought personal attacks and insults were cool. Who is being childish?
Lastly, are you or are you not that Hulmanista shillbag drunken old broken down piece of trash Jan Shaffer aka indytool? Nope, I have been Indyman around here for several years, probably since this forum started, and well before the Indystar.com rejects came over here to spew their hatred.
Well, are you, punk? Clint Eastwood called, he said he put his tired old '70's line to bed and wants you to do the same.
Stan you seem to think insults and tired old lines are cool. Sorry, unless you are still in grade school, it is not. You sound like a Jim Rome wanna be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chet_Fillip
Looks like Milk 'N' Donuts is somebody's Sugar Momma so he can play race car driver.
Dr. Jack Miller?
You two gonna flip a coin to see who gets to stack up Milker's rig first?
Bring your toof brush, count.
Please leave a little decorum for what Anthony is trying to do here and refrain from annoying anyone here anymore. Here I go violating my own assurance to avoid name calling, but this guy is over the top. Please consider those as titles for Nocount Tracula, not names.
Maybe it IS the fan's fault after all? :lol:
What happened to the beer outing?