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reporter. Edited by Cory Schouten.
The Music Mill, a north-side restaurant, bar and concert venue, has temporarily closed its restaurant for a renovation.
The box office remains open at the 82nd Street facility.
Seven nightclub in Broad Ripple (shown here) is closing and likely will reopen with a country-western format, the Star's
Susan Guyett reports in her Talk of Our Town column this morning. The bar's ownership, including Indiana Pacer Jermaine O'Neal,
is not expected to change.
Downtown's American Super Heroes Museum has closed. You can discuss
the closure over at Lou Harry's A&E blog.
Bennigan's Grill and Tavern in Fishers has closed. The restaurant owner, Jan Beam, is looking to sell or lease the space.
She said name recognition for Bennigan's just wasn't strong enough in Indianapolis.
An update: Downtown's BARcelona Tapas is not closing, the owner says in a post on this blog. Owner Frank Schmitz says the owner who told Property Lines about a cash flow problem is no longer
with the restaurant. Read the post to find out how to win free tapas for life.
Other closings include Comp USA in Castleton, Grindstone Charley's on the eastside and both Don Pablo's locations.
Was the promoter (who has no money and a history of problems) just being flip when he mentioned a C & W concept or is
he tired of losing the Pacer's business to the 8-second Saloon?
Susan Guyette was being extremely kind when she suggested that nighclub concepts tend to run their course in 2 - 4 years.
I wasn't aware that Seven ever took off. Yes, fads change but this was never the right location for such an uptown concept.
BR looks like the bars around Wrigley Field or any college campus after a big event - Little 5; Monon Bell....
Bennigan's name recognition wasn't strong enough? I think it has something more to do with the fact that their food isn't
that great and restaurants like this aren't doing as well across the board. (Applebees etc).
Wow, what's happening to Clearwater? Lone Star closed a year ago (and I don't think it's reopened as anything else?), I think
Cafe Santa Fe is gone too, now Don Pablo's and a rumor that Forbidden City was leaving too. Cory, what's going on?? I'm sure
the closing of the cinema over there won't help matters....
I think the restautants at Clearwater ran their course. Hard to believe how long that stuff has been there. No one really
thought that Don Pablos could keep up those two hour waiting lists circa 1998! I'm sure it's still a strong area for the
right restaurants and it's probably time for a mid-life face lift. The theater has moved which leaves a big hole. I am surprised
that the Music Mill is already undergoing a renovation. I've never been there, but I've heard great things. Does anyone
know more scoop?
Clearwater isn't Castleton, and it isn't Keystone Crossing. I can't imagine how chain restaurants would think that's a good
location since almost everyone has to drive past one or the other mall area to get there. Without the theater, there's no
dinner draw that would entice people to survive the traffic past either of the two malls.
Hmm. I wonder if the Simon folks figured that out already, and that's why they grabbed the theater...so they can peddle
outlots and lifestyle spaces to chain restaurants?
Well even though things are closing on the southside, Greenwood Park Mall is scheduled to get a BJ's Brewhouse & Resturant
this coming summer and a BRAVO! Cucina Italiana in October.
True, Clearwater isn't Casleton or Keystone--but look at the income levels within 10 miles of that whole area (I believe this
was just published in the IBJ this week). There are lots of dining dollars to be spent, and I think there is a lot of residential
development that supports it.
It is too bad that the Music Mill is located in a surburban strip mall, but nice to see the old Discovery Zone building
being used. Maybe their renovation includes bring back some of those mouse tubes and colored balls to jump in?
I might be in the minority here, but I have to disagree with FloRida and JNC. Music Mill's location is great. Suburban areas
are always getting a bad rap thanks to the cookie cutter strip malls and subdivisions. Its nice to have something like Music
Mill in that area to break up the monotony of the chain stores and restaurants that surround it.
If anyone here truly believes that a CW bar is going in at 7, please pass the bong. JO's pacer cash is the only thing keeping
that place alive, and as soon as he's gone, that place is gone too. I have a fantastic idea on what to do woth the place,
but I'm saving it.
Bottom line is what owner Pete Watson says goes there, is what goes there. The fact that 7 is/was even paying their
bill is amazing, and a credit to JO. But what will make it up there? Not good odds on a club, mucxh less hicks with Bud
Lights.
Pete's BW's is doing OK there, but I suspect will do really well once it expands and the smoking ban on EVERYWHERE finally
gets statuted. (Hey, I made up a word :) ).
I really hope the smoking ban gets here soon. Food + Ciggies = barf/blech.
I hope Forbidden City does not close on 86th street. I used to eat at the one on 65th & Keystone and I was upset it closed
now people are saying the one on 86th may close. Too bad they have a good buffet. It must be the area going through changes.
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has closed, too. Our family was shocked when we saw
the signage had been removed!
It's gonna be a markedly different crowd when I go people watching at BW's. Too bad.
Susan Guyette was being extremely kind when she suggested that nighclub concepts tend to run their course in 2 - 4 years. I wasn't aware that Seven ever took off. Yes, fads change but this was never the right location for such an uptown concept.
BR looks like the bars around Wrigley Field or any college campus after a big event - Little 5; Monon Bell....
Hmm. I wonder if the Simon folks figured that out already, and that's why they grabbed the theater...so they can peddle outlots and lifestyle spaces to chain restaurants?
It is too bad that the Music Mill is located in a surburban strip mall, but nice to see the old Discovery Zone building being used. Maybe their renovation includes bring back some of those mouse tubes and colored balls to jump in?
How did Venu do Wed night?
Bottom line is what owner Pete Watson says goes there, is what goes there. The fact that 7 is/was even paying their bill is amazing, and a credit to JO. But what will make it up there? Not good odds on a club, mucxh less hicks with Bud Lights.
Pete's BW's is doing OK there, but I suspect will do really well once it expands and the smoking ban on EVERYWHERE finally gets statuted. (Hey, I made up a word :) ).
I really hope the smoking ban gets here soon. Food + Ciggies = barf/blech.