New rendering: Zing

August 15, 2008
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Here's the overall vision for the new Zing restaurant at 543 Indiana Ave. By the way, I'm told the galvanized steel has to cure for one year before they paint it black. The restaurant should open in a couple weeks. Last week's post is here.
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  • assuming it is painted black, I think it looks great
  • Nice rendering. It takes a few liberties with the building -- too few ground floor windows and third floor dormers -- but I'm glad to hear that the steel will be painted black. I really wish the dormers they added matched the existing one on the point as well the imagined ones here do.
  • That will help immensely.

    Do they plan on adding the flared bases to the support beams? That would also help.

    Any word on the menu? Has that been mentioned already?
  • Susan Guyett had a small piece in the Star last week. Key menu quotes:

    menu spanning American, French, Mexican, Portuguese and Italian cuisine
    50 wines to choose from and about 25 beers
  • This rendering doesn't reference the surrounding area at all. Sure, it looks fine all by itself. But in reality, I don't think painting the attrocious steel balcony black is going to make it look any better.
    I'm still very skeptical...
  • I love it! I can't wait for it to open
  • Yeah, the black will be a big improvement.
  • I find it interesting that the artist chose to construct the viewpoint at such an oddly high altitude. The viewer seems to be about 12-feet tall. It leads me to believe that he/she was directed to draw it in such a way as to minimize the visibility of the deck (not an uncommon trait of developers). Normal-sized pedestrians and drivers will see much more of its underside. Don't get me started on the jungle in the background that has overgrown the surrounding buildings.

    I think the problem most people have with the deck is at the point, where the 2nd floor space seems to be disproportionately large against the building. Runner up would be the concealment of the ornate architectural detailing over the 1st floor door.

    Just to clarify something else - regarding the galvanized vs. paint dilemma, out of maybe a half a dozen options, this team CHOSE to use galvanized steel for this application. This was a valid choice structurally, but it is not fair to imply that it was the only choice and therefore the deck HAS to look like this (for a year).
  • MDB -- two of your points actually go together: the height of the balcony and the concealment of the ornate detailing. The balcony is as tall as it is precisely so that it does NOT conceal the ornate detailing:
  • Loves it! xoxo
  • You can't paint galvanized steel for a year? BOLLOCKS! I've never heard such BOGUS information. Give Sherwin Williams a call and I'm sure they'll get you up to speed on that. Did someone do interWEB research on that fact or what? Is there an April Fools Day in August?
  • Are the new dormers going to be given proper masonry work shown in this rendering?
    Are they really going to add that cast-iron metal work to the railings and posts? I hope so, it would add so much charm and architecture to an already beautiful building!
    This structure is quiet unique and beautiful for that portion of downtown. The renovations should if anything add to the beauty to the landmark.
    I was actually turned off by this development as I was to a large degree concerned that it may destroy the charm of this structure. I can see now, it may be quiet beautiful if it is kept with the rendering.

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