Indianapolis resentment

January 18, 2010
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Nearly a week has passed since the Indiana Fiscal Policy Institute released a study showing urban counties in the state pay more in state taxes than they receive in benefits. In effect, tax revenue flows from cities to rural areas, Ball State University found.

The methodology has been criticized, mainly by people living in rural counties, but the results reflect similar studies in other states.

The study has both confirmed what people in the Indianapolis area have said for a long time—that funding flows are reasonably equitable—and rekindled discussion about the perpetual resentment toward Indianapolis.

State Rep. Bob Behning, a Plainfield Republican, says anti-Indianapolis sentiment is running at about the same fairly high level as when he was elected to the office in 1993. Behning’s District 91 includes parts of Marion and Morgan counties as well as a section of Hendricks County, which was second behind Vanderburgh County in paying more tax than it received.

He witnessed Indianapolis resentment surfacing again during the competition between Marian University in Indianapolis and Indiana Wesleyan University in Marion over the new osteopathic medical school snagged by Marian. One representative from the Marion area suggested Indiana Wesleyan should have gotten it because “Indianapolis has so many things, why don’t we share,” Behning recalls.

“Because people come from varied backgrounds in different communities, there will always be jealousy,” he says. However, Behning adds that Indianapolis is perceived as dragging too many of its problems, such as the Capital Improvement Board’s financial mess, to the doors of the Statehouse.

Nevertheless, he believes most of the resentment is unjustified. Indianapolis gets lots of attention because of its size and the unique issues it contends with—professional sports, for example. And for those same reasons it will for a long time to come.

What’s your take? Does the Indianapolis area get more than its fair share of the pot from the General Assembly? Are there legitimate reasons for the resentment?


 

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  • My take on Indy
    I think Indy should get more money from the General Assumbly. We live in a time where regions and large cities propel state economies. If you want to attract professional jobs, than you have to be able to put a great product on the table. Indy is the only city in Indiana that has star power right now. Our second biggest city has a laughable downtown, how do expect people to want to live in a city like that? Spend the money where you will get a return-INDY!
    • Out Growth Cost $20 Million Per Mile
      Mayor Brainard USGBC Speech / SMART GROWTH vs:

      The Rise of Sprawl and the Decline of a Nation: and our State

      Sustainable Cityâ??s / Solve City Design Issues / Recreate Walkable Cityâ??s

      By Design: Happy Cars 1 to 5 Mile Grid vs. Happy People Walkable Grid
      No Connectivity; No Grid; Congestions traffic solution: Widen & More Roads????
      Land Capacity vs. Access Capacity / Loss of Quality of Life / Loss of Time /
      2 hrs of Traffic per day

      Bankrupting many Local and State Governments
      Creates: Abandon Housing / Crime / Historic Measures

      Facts:
      Average Household Drives 100 miles Per Day
      Average Lot size = .3 Acre
      Current rate of expansion in U.S. America = 0 Acres left by 2050
      Cost of Transportation / Energy Savings / Drainage Use / Etc.
      Once upon a time: Corner Stores â?? Goshen Indiana (Walk to work)
      Candy Store; Gelato; Bakery; Restaurants; Pharmacy; Coffee = Neighborhoods
      Auto% of households that have cars:
      1895â??1905 1920 1930 1950 1960 Today
      Start of Auto 25% Depression 50% 90% 2.5 cars per household
      â?¦..Not Sustainable Financially / (COSTS:)
      Roads = $5.2 Million per 1 Mile + Land + Sewer + Water + Utilities ++++
      Costs are hidden to Subsidize Sprawl: Road Out; Fire; Police; Utilities; Schools etc.
      = $20 Mil. Per Mile / Expense Spent Towards Out Growth
      ���Creating the Fiscal Problems of Today
      Solutions = â??Public & Private Partnership Investments Help Cities Growâ?? â?? Hudnut

      Solutions by Design:
      Urban Growth Boundaryâ??s / Force Public Investment Capital Back into Center

      Infill / Reconnect to the Center / Public Redevelopment Tool Box:
      Environmental Clean Up
      Housing
      Infrastructure
      Energy Sustainability
      Economic Development

      Solutions: Better Quality of Life / by Design:
      City & State Spending $ where they can get return on investment
      Create better Walkable road systems with in our walkable community
      Complete the Streets with Multi Modes of transportation
      Density Done Well â?? Mixed Use with in our Historic Commercial Nodes
      Pocket Parks â?? Reconnect our Neighborhoods our communityâ??s and our people.

      Cityâ??s and Neighborhoods that are walkable are the ones that will succeed
      Demand Reinvestment into the Center of our most dense locations and communityâ??s vs. Sprawl The Rise of Sprawl and the Decline of a Nationâ?¦Subsidized by the foreign investment

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    1. So the Mayor adds another non value added layer to having a vehicle towed? Whereby the City Government RECIEVES AN ILLEGAL KICKBACK FROM A LGOISTICS COMPANY THAT SUBS THE WORK TO LOCAL TOW COMPANIES? What is the service the City performs for receiving the "tribute"? This is RICO!!!!! What a corrupt and unnecessary layer. What a dirtbag Mayor and his cronies.

    2. Owner occupied housing. Clear enough?

    3. So people think I am paranoid. It's from experience in dealing with puds requested by developers who make major donations themselves to representatives, have nice fund raisers for those running for office and hide through pac's. then there are the public relation firms. You will note some pr comments below. You there Clyde Lee? My opinion. Commercial along 421, great. Multifamily housing, terrible idea that will change the town. Senior condos or zero lot line homes west, great. I suggest keeping all entries to commercial areas at 421. All entries to owner occupied on sycamore. Will keep the traffic on sycamore down some. Two other things. You can't trust what will be there in 10 years. Steve builds quality stuff, but areas change over time. Look at the changes at the wall mart center at 86th and 421 over the last 10 years. Look at the apartments and neighborhoods behind St Vincent's. Raintree properties WILL decrease in value if commercial and multifamily goes in near. It has already been happening around the bridges area. The houses that have been sold recently are way below market. Several deals not closed due to the Illinois construction and the whole unsurety of the bridges. It's pretty simple, Zionsville will approve the whole thing because the city council has been groomed over a LONG period of time for this. I might even suggest some are in their position as a result of this.

    4. Esta, do you have a dog in this fight? You seem to really want to knock anyone against this project. No, I didn't move to Indiana for the architecture. I moved here for that red barn in the field. The horses and fields of corn. A place that is NOT overdeveloped. There are plenty of nearby places in Indianapolis that could be REDEVELOPED instead.

    5. RKW - OK, we get it, you're paranoid. The question is, are you paranoid enough? Greg - Yes, Pittman(s) is (are) at it again. They are developers, they build things. It's what they do. So when you go to work tomorrow, Greg, you're at it again too. Cliff - Really? You moved to Indiana for its progressive architecture? That's like moving to England for the cuisine. Zionsvillain - The house you moved to was once a field or woods. I'm willing to bet folks were upset when that ground was plowed under and a house was built. But I guess now that you are in, everything should stop? "My house was OK, but the next one is sprawl." SE Guy - Please don't paint us with such a wide brush. Most reasonable Zionsville residents welcome planned, measured development.

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