Two unrelated announcements last week in Indianapolis continued story lines that aren’t improving with the passage
of time.
The biggest eye-opener was Tony George’s sudden shutdown of Vision Racing, the Indy Racing League
team. By pulling his car from the league, prospects for fielding a full slate of 33 cars to qualify for the Indianapolis 500
got that much harder.
Earlier the same day, Jan. 29, Eli Lilly and Co. reported a decline in operating profit in
the fourth quarter. But the news about its Effient blood thinner was worse. Sales of Effient, Lilly’s newest drug and
one of the company’s hopes for surviving an upcoming string of patent losses, plunged and prompted investors to sell
Lilly stock.
In isolation, neither event was significant. But bad news out of both Indianapolis Motor Speedway
and Lilly is becoming disquietingly common.
The cachet, the “holy ground” aura of Indianapolis Motor
Speedway is fading. George’s announcement was the latest in a string of setbacks going back to the early ’90s.
Lilly is losing traction, too. The company has unloaded thousands of workers, and its stock is trading at 1997 levels. Analysts
continue to question the future of big drug companies as they struggle to find new products to sell.
So, let’s
ratchet up the discomfort for the sake of argument. What if both pillars tip further? Or topple entirely?
Several
years ago, the notion of even a diminished Speedway or Lilly would have been absurd. Now it isn’t, says Dan Knudsen,
an Indiana University geographer who has studied economic development and keeps an eye on Indianapolis.
Knudsen
says Indianapolis should brace for the Speedway going out of business within a few years. Open-wheel racing has been losing
popularity, and young people in particular don’t seem to care about it. Imagine the track as a type of empty Roman Coliseum,
he says.
Lilly’s prospects are brighter, Knudsen believes. The nation will always demand health care, so
the company probably will find a way to capitalize and stay in business, if at a reduced scale. “As long as people die—and
people don’t want to—Lilly is going to be fine,” he says.
Even if Lilly were to be acquired and
broken into pieces, many of the pieces would be snapped up by other life sciences companies. Some Lilly plants in Indianapolis
might fall into hands like Cook Group in Bloomington or Illinois-based Baxter Healthcare. So, Indianapolis would lose Lilly’s
corporate largess but other companies would latch onto its highly trained employees.
Knudsen goes so far as to
say Indianapolis wouldn’t miss the Speedway or Lilly as much as most locals might think. Bloomington bounced back just
fine after the RCA television plant closed several years ago, he reminds.
Indianapolis has become highly attractive
to professionals, Knudsen says. Downtown is now a sprawling campus, and the downtown is part of a larger campus that is Indianapolis.
Indianapolis has done a remarkable job of shifting away from manufacturing to health and information, and the trend will continue
well into the 21st Century, he says. The expansion of Indianapolis hospital networks throughout the state is just one sign
of the city’s prosperity and influence.
“Indianapolis in essence is extending itself,” Knudsen
says.
What do you think about Knudsen’s assessment? Is he too optimistic about Indianapolis? Too pessimistic
about the Speedway and Lilly?
What are the odds of the Speedway and Lilly pulling out of their respective downward
spirals?








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Honestly, if we as a capitalist nation would spend less time on theories, polls, studies, and even less wasting taxpayers money with grant funding, perhaps these same people could get busy and do something, produce something, make a real difference.
Subjectivity wasted by a University. Let him get a productive employment opportunity and save the taxpayers a smidge off their tuition.
For what it's worth, both home grown institutions will find a way to survive if the government will leave them and us alone. That is, of course, if any of us survive with the current and swelling national debt load.
Good grief......
Even Vision Racing DEAD. Bull Riding CEO. Everythings coming up roses! NAAAH, no way it could happen. LOL
They are still drawing enormous numbers of people to the 500 and Brickyard. Obviously, they would like to sell every event out but they are still profitable events for IMS. They don't come with the enormous sanctioning fees that F1 did that require selling out or coming close to break a profit. Now, could IMS sell to someone? Yes. Could the IRL go under? Yes, but something else would come along to replace it. The thing that this guy is missing is that even if the IRL and 500 ceased to exist (and the 500 won't just go away), the Brickyard alone would still keep the place open as it's one of the biggest crowds on the NASCAR circuit and NASCAR isn't going away.
Even in the one of the worst economies in decades they are still drawing at least 350,000 people to the Brickyard and 500 combined right now. And, that is probably a very low estimate. The 500's attendance drop appears to have leveled off with recent crowds the same or bigger than prior years. NASCAR was selling very well prior to the economic downturn. We are not talking about a facility that is only 40 or 50 percent full for these races. We are talking about the difference between being sold out and maybe 80 or so percent full.
I wouldn't disagree with the idea that the 500 may never be what it once was and perhaps the popularity of NASCAR has peaked but there are still a ton of people showing up at IMS for those races even in this economy. That consumer demand will continue to be served at IMS for years to come. Perhaps not by the Hulman/George family but if they ever want to get out there will definitely be interest in buying IMS.
Now, as for Lilly... that's a far more likely and scary situation from an economic perspective. While IMS certainly provides employment in Indy and brings money into town it's not essential in the way Lilly is. Losing Lilly would be far more devastating than any absurd notions of the speedway just being bulldozed.
The Bloomington comparison seems strange as Indiana University provides a buffer for their economy with such a huge portion of the population employed there. Especially when you consider the percentage of "good" jobs in Bloomington that IU accounts for.
Are you jealous of the hits Anthony gets when he posts on the IRL? is this all iu professors have to do with their time? Sounds like the hypotheticals that ESPN was doing today like what if Drew Brees had gone to the Dolphins? i mean we could play this all day. What if Indy becomes a permanent stop on the Super Bowl rotation, what if Indy annexes Carmel, What if Bill Gates moves Microsoft here? Tell the iu geographer to go play with his maps.
There is a difference between truth and speculation, but I would never expect you to understand that.
Speculation: IRL will be good for AOW (1994).
Truth: IRL ruined AOW racing (2010).
$600 million?
TG is gone in all facets. Can you not lay down your bitterness long enough to see that the people still involved are trying to make something positive out of the mess they were left with? Or have you been hanging out with Punxatawny Phil so long you continue to see your negative shadow everywhere?
Let it be, perhaps they'll succeed, perhaps not. But kudos if they do. And if you can't find it in yourself to move on and cheer them on, they why don't you crawl back under the rock you came out from under?
Enough is enough.......
It is fair to say that Lilly's economic struggles--spotlighted by the fact their patents on some very important and hugely profiable products run out in 2011--are making Lilly adjust their strategies on how to keep the revenue coming. Yes, the IMS has concerns. The world of auto racing is more diverse, costly, and much more competitive than ever. Add to those challenges the current economic down turn, and it is safe to say the IMS has big challenges ahead. However, to take the dump truck filled with Lilly and IMS employees together with their assets to the land fill is both sophomoric and just plain stupid.
In short, Mr. Knudsen, get a grip. Your thesis looks at the rising water of a potential heavy storm and assumes that those caught up in it don't have a vessel to weather it, nor the constitution to seek ways to make it to shore safely.
Even you know, Dan that Indanapolis's location on the world map is not adjacent to the Grand Canyon. We won't fall in. We're in the heartland, Dan. We're stable, rock solid, competitive with a history of success. Did you hear that, Dan? We will compete and achieve. We will Dan; we will.
The declining Indy 500 and the inter-squabbling within the Hulman family have de-stabilized the AOW sport. ROI is low and prospects are no hopeful for the future.
New Madrid fault also issues warnings too...not if but when. Just like a catastophic earthquake in Indy can occur, so can the 500 go out of business. And it's resident will recover and survive too.
This is an area where Geography and Sociology overlap. Geography studies the earthâ??s surface including the effects of population, land use, and industry, and Sociology studies the function of society in relationships, institutions, etc. The Indianapolis 500, the Speedway and Lilly fit the criteria for both areas of study.
In English, "who" is used for the nominative case and "whom" is used for all others.
Bull + roses? ;)
Puff puff........
Good thing industry hasn't yet tied it's economic viability to the speedway yet (again). Too unsettled, which leads to the credibility of this report and blog.
aren't surprising.
aren't surprising.
Indy basing tix discounts on what Danica does in the ARCA race. Pathetic marketing effort and the sporting news laughs at IMS for doing it.
You seem to be new here so I will pose my question to you. Some around here claim that the series with the cars and stars, the big name owners, the big name tracks minus one and the big name sponsors was brought down solely because of an upstart series that only real asset was IMS. That would be like a new series started around Daytona bringing down NASCAR. Without fundamental flaws in its business model, how did it happen? Name another major racing series where the team owners also control the series. There isn't any. And there is a reason for it.
We already have seen your prowess at dodging the question, i was giving the new guy a chance to answer it since the rest of you cannot seem to provide an answer.
No one is suggesting the repeating of history by re-living CART or whatever you fear. The fact remains IMS is treading water and the strong powerbase that was supposed to be at it's heart is shredded in a family squabble. The success of AOW hanging in the balance...
If one thing could come from CART's legacy it should be competition....amongst sponsors, manufacturers, drivers, teams, owners, fans etc. THAT is what has been lacking in the IRL today, and with the instability at 16th and Jonestown and the indecision by Barnhart etc. it isn't gonna get any better. That is not doging anything, it's taking the speedway at it's word and challenging them to make positive effect on the sport as a whole. You appear to want the status quo, which is NOT acceptable.
The problem with the competition aspect among tires, maufacturers and even to some point teams really does not have much depth in series racing anymore.
Take NASCAR. Other than sponsorship, there really is no Chevy, Ford, Dodge or Toyota cars running. On Sunday, pretty much the same cars with the same engines running on the same tires will be take the green flag. About the only difference is the stickers on the cars. I think the reason for that is cost. NASCAR runs the series on the cheap side to get more cars 43 or so per event and to attract the PBR crowd. Contrast that with F1 which really does have true competition with cars that are not cookie cutter. The trade off, high dollar racing that limits it to 20 cars at most, and ticket prices that make it available only to the Perier crowd.
Cart appeared to try to be the F1 light. Fewer ovals, more foriegn drivers, more international races and attract the wealthier crowd. It did not work for them. In the end, it was as much spec racing as NASCAR.
The IRL on the other hand tried to stay the true American open wheel series by keeping costs low, support American drivers, on ovals in America. It survives, but has compromised many of its original ideas supposedly to attract the former cart crowd.
SO I would argue that there is little of the competition you want in racing today. Blowing up the IRL and starting from scratch certainly will not get it. I think the best thing is for the IRL to position itself to come out of the recession with a definite business model and stick to it. I think coming up with an all new car design and if it is the wingless prototype, then so be it. I have never stated status quo is good. I think the IRL made a mistake when it started catering to the cart crowd. The IRL should have stuck to its original vision. Such is life.
I respect that you say the IRL should have stayed with it's original vision. But it didn't. I'm appalled that you appear to allow this farce to continue despite your convictions. Defending a farce, in my mind, is inexcusable, which is what you are doing.
Change for the better will not occur at the top unless the fans voice is heard too. I propose that the powers that be are hearing it loud and clear...and until folks like yourself join in to express need for change, the series will just wander about like it has all these 14 years, until it's dead. Then, you and the speedway will have no one to blame but it's self.
That said, the IRL is still closer to my vision of racing then cart ever was. Cart went downhill when they started being driven by the dollar and not the racing. I truly believe that is what TG wanted to reverse. I truly believe that his heart was in the right place, that he foresaw cart, run by the owners was going down the wrong road. I think this is born out that no major racing series is run by team owners. There were just too many chefs in the kitchen.
Your argument would have weight IF CART was in some dire straits in 1994...but it wasn't. And all that you wrote is fine EXCEPT the IRL has NEVER made a penny nor been successful since it's incarnation. IRL gets credit for being the last man standing, but minus $600 million and his throne with the sport in shambles. And the worst injury record in recorded history. Some legacy.
Given your apparent dislike of team owners controlling/voting on policy or direction of the series, what do you favor? Do you like the way things are now? Most of the same CART team owners on board, Indy reduced to a one engine/one chassis event, and a mix of street, oval and road races not unlike what CART was doing - but all on a significantly diminished scale from the CART days. All this subtraction of interest, money, whatever happened under the IRL's watch.
I'll take the CART model. Indy - still being run with its own formulas (compatible with CART's rest of the season formula), multiple engine and chassis each race, savvy business people considering the WHOLE SERIES
and not just worrying about the Month (er...two weeks) of May.