Global warming = more snow?

February 19, 2010
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Add another dimension to the debate over global warming. A National Geographic online story is quoting a meteorologist saying we might be in line for a string of cold, snowy winters.

So much for global warming? No, says the meteorologist, Joe Bastardi, of AccuWeather. Warmer temperatures might be shifting more moisture from earth into the atmosphere and, voila, we get more snow.

However, another meteorologist told National Geographic he thinks the deluge of snow this year was caused by El Nino.

What are your thoughts about climate change?

And how do you like our real winter this year? If you knew for certain we’re in for more winters like this, would you move farther south?

  • Let it snow
    It's winter. It's the Midwest. Sometimes it snows.
    And no, I would not move south.
  • Snow
    We've had periods of frequent and large snows and periods of infrequent and light snows. And it has nothing to do with Al Gore's goofballs. First it was global cooling, then global warming, now climate change. Oh yeah, that last one covers for all the lies that have been told and facts that were made up and subverted.

    I'm all for taking care of our environment and I believe we can do many things better and should But those dipsticks are running on short crankshafts.
    • Ok, I might buy that more moisture in atmosphere due to global warming would cause more snow, except for the fact that if it was truly warmer, it would be more rain, and less snow.

      Facts are easy to skew. It all depends on how big of a sample you want to take. This past week has been colder than normal, therefore we are in global cooling. The last month has been warmer than normal, we must be global warming. The last year was colder than normal, we must be global cooling. The last decade was warmer than usual, global warming. The last century was colder, global cooling.

      You get the idea. Statistics are made to twist and interpret any way you want to.
    • global manipulation
      I donâ??t understand how so many people just buy whatever the media chooses to share as the truth. I agree with Berwickguyâ?¦.letâ??s do our best to stop polluting our waters , soil and air as much as we can. Letâ??s try to combine smarter sources of renewable energy with our own available natural resources to reduce our use and dependence on foreign sources. Keep that revenue in the states AND work to preserve our world. However people seem to have a very high opinion of what humans are on this planet. This is a HUGE planet with forces more powerful in one of its tiny hiccups than we could ever produce with all of our bombs combined.
      We should lookout for wildlife and not do unnecessary damage to the natural environment, but letâ??s not make up stories about how suddenly the world is warming. Just exactly what is the method for determining the entire planet is â??1 degreeâ?? warmer anyhow? Our planet is a mix of complex climate zones and microclimates that shift constantly as the world keeps changing. As well, there are cyclesâ?¦many of which are longer than our lifetimes so we donâ??t even notice them. Human kind is but a blip on the radar screen in comparison to how long this planet has existedâ?¦.how can we even think we know what the planetary cycles areâ?¦ we havenâ??t been alive to even study them. So we received more than average snow. We have had snow some wintersâ?¦ and sometimes not.
      Funny how we donâ??t hear about that ominous ozone hole growing out of control anymore?... oh thatâ??s rightâ?¦because it has gotten smallerâ?¦â?¦ now why is it the news doesnâ??t cover that? Because it doesnâ??t cause panic and fear and itâ??s not useful to the agendas of the people who dictate what can be shared in the media to steer public support. I havenâ??t seen on NBC or ABC or CNN any stories focusing on how they have recently admitted the fraud that took place in the studies that Al Gore used to get his Nobel Prize claiming the world was melting away and killing all the baby polar bears. Nobel Prize for lying? What HAS this world come too. Does nothing mean anything anymore? No wonder Obama received one.
    • Global What?
      Global warming is an absolute farce, made to bring in big bucks for crooks like Al Gore and O'Bama. I was already a skeptic and now hearing from the experts now that there has been no warming for the past 15 years and, in fact, it has been cooling, just reinforces what I already felt.

      I put global warming and the tooth fairy in the same category...both made up. If we're going to blame it on something made up, then we should at least be creative with it. How about we blame it on the evil Easter Bunny? That sounds good. I can make up some statistic to support my claim.

      BTW...this "nozone" stuff has been proven to be a bunch of made-up banter as well. Feel free to gas-up or mow your lawn anytime you please. It will do a lot less damage than the volcano that was actually causing ozone issues. Geez!
    • You said it right!
      I agree 100% with Berwickguy's comments. There have always been and will continue to be different types of winters in Indiana and the I don't believe that makes it "Global" anything or "climate change."
    • Really
      Is there really a debate about global warming? Is Rick Perry really suing the government claiming global warming is false? Has anyone seen the glaciers receding? How about the two feet of shoreline lost every year to rising sea water? News flash - it is real. It leads to more radical weather patterns and correlates to rising CO2 in the atmosphere. Granted it does produce somethings that help protect the earth like more moisture in the atmosphere, more clouds, less sunlight, less cultivation to consume CO2. But, who cares, I prefer snow to rain anyday. Just honor private rights and social republicanism. Do whatever you want to do, but once its starts to affect anyone else, your done. Right now, we each have to do a little bit more to clean up for all the yoos who mucked it all up.
    • Science?
      So, AGW proponents are fond of oft reminding those of us who are intellectually challenged that we mustn't confuse weather and the climate. They tell us that weather is not necessarily an indicator of the climate...unless of course, it is convenient to their cause.
    • Thank you, Alabama
      It is real. It's called Global Warming...not USA Warming. What about no snow in Vancouver for the Winter Olympics, rising sea levels...and if you read the news..remember when the iceberg broke off and was within 1 mile from the New Zealand coast?
      • GW
        For all those Gore Hangeroners, yes, you're right we do have climate change. It happens as a result of Earth changes and Solar changes with little effect of change made globally by mankind.

        You guys just go ahead and swallow all of those lies hook, line, and sinker. Green ideas are good, but all that malarky about doomsday is for the Gorebirds.

        Nobel Peace Prize for Gore - what a joke. Have you seen his home that eats up energy like it's going out of style (what a hypocrite) and yet George Bush's house is built to energy efficient standards. See a little double standard there? Not with your rose colored glasses on. Me thinks not!

        Such a shame......
      • Snow line is moving south
        This decade has seen snowfall in line with snowfall in the 70's. The snow line is moving south. When this happened in the 70's there were reports of a coming ice age. This time? The global warming hoax cannot stop even when it is cooling. Way to much money to be made to worry about cooling. I wish we knew the real temperatures. I think we are back to 70's temperatures now.
      • oblivious
        why do we have to believe what every reputable scientist in the world is telling us? the world is flat, right?
      • BerwickGuy
        Have you actually been in both of their homes or believe everything you read on the Internet?
      • BerwickGuy
        I propose that BerwickGuy change his handle to BabbleGuy.
      • Vancy
        Hey John, you are a prime example of the blind following the blind (you following the media) on the issue of Vancouver snow. Take a moment and look up the climate data for Vancouver. It's a 'Pacific Mild' climate, and is one of the warmest cities in Canada.

        In fact, it's climate is slightly warmer than that of Indianapolis, and in February averages Highs & Lows that are greater than freezing. Vanc'y only averages 19in of snow a the city. Vanc'y is a RAINY city, and that climate doesn't vary much in the foothills where a lot of this SNOW hubbub is being propagated by the uneducated. Just thought you should know.
      • John & Can you believe
        John, No, of course I haven't been in their homes. And, you have to know I don't believe everything I read on the net - I simply don't believe Gore and his minions. Is there a problem, certainly, but it has been exaggerated by lies, distortions, and falsifications of data. All in the name of greed. It seems to be another case of follow the money.

        Can you believe - cute, and you can be "Bloviate Boy"!
      • Berwick
        The country would be much better off if you ran for office. Ever think about it?
      • Global Warming Ate My Homework
        Didn't you know? Climate Change is to blame for everything.
      • John
        Hey John, if you aren't afraid of the truth, do some research and find out the truth about the homes of Bush and Gore. I try my best to limit my opines about something I have already confirmed. You might give that a shout sometime. Works well. Again, if you're not afraid of the truth!
      • now now...
        We all know the only "news" we need comes from the in depth, journalistic stylings of Katie Couric. Really Berwick, what were you thinking?
      • Seriously
        What are you talking about? I get my news updates from the WSJ, IBJ, Fox News, never from Perky little Katie. Where did you get that from???
      • Random Tid-Bits
        Just to add a few random thoughts:

        The 'Ring of Fire' is named aptly due to the fact that there are 19 currently active volcanoes spewing thousands of metric tons of all sorts of nice things for our atmosphere to either absorb or distribute. Mt St Helen's and Kilauea are just two of them that send up massive quantities of gasses and miniscule ash particles weekly.

        An excerpt from the following is a clue into some of a volcano's effect on our atmosphere:
        The massive ash cloud grew to 80,000 feet (18 kilometers) in 15 minutes and reached the east coast in 3 days. Although most of the ash fell within 300 miles of the mountain, finer ash circled the earth in 15 days and may continue to stay in the atmosphere for many years.

        Hmmm...this certainly has to have some effect on our atmosphere as well as human and anthropogenic forces taking a hand in it. But no one seems to mention volcanoes - probably because we cannot control them.

        I find it really hard to believe that people think that humans are the main cause of a climate change. I think we are a small, but growing faction. After all, there are more and more and more of us every year that goes by and all the waste (landfills), food (mass farming w/ genetically altered seeds and pesticides), power (need our lights, computers, etc), (I could go on), has to come from and go somewhere. I like the comforts of life, trust me - I am using a computer in a heated home here....but I do wonder just how much stress should be on humans when it comes to climate change.

        How about this: take into effect what Mother Nature is doing and then what humans are doing. I would believe that Mother Nature would win hands down on pollutants. But unlike (most) humans...Mother Nature also can clean up her act and has done so many, many times over (think of all the balances in place - the fact that plants absolutely need CO2 to survive, etc). I do think that we humans should take a page from her book and try to do the same. Not for the sake of 'Climate Change' or some hyped political agenda, but just like picking up litter along a road and recycling everything that what we can...for a sense of pride in fact that we are here and can make it a better place than we found (inherited) it.

        What say you?

      • Berwick --sarcasm
        Berwick that was sarcasm (supporting you).... suggesting that most people are too lazy to search out actual news and just listen to the 3 min snippets our "news personalities" feed us.
      • Another Laugh
        Yeah, because the Fox News "personalities" never "feed" anything to the public. Pure, unbiased news from that network. (Do I need to point out the sarcasm?)

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