Bloomington is the latest city to join the boycott of Arizona over its new immigration law. City officials in Bloomington
have decided to stop buying goods and services from companies based in Arizona, according to The Herald-Times. Neither
will the city send city officials to the state for conferences.
However, the city is not expected to end existing relationships, including trash pickup by Phoenix-based Republic Services.
Beginning July 29, police in Arizona who enforce another law must ask about immigration status if the police think the suspects
might be in the United States illegally.
Arizona has come under a torrent of criticism for the law's potential to unleash police abuses, while supporters believe
it’s a reasonable response to the costs of supporting illegal immigrants, particularly when the federal government hasn’t
stepped in with a national policy.
Surveys generally show Americans support for the law, though Latinos tend to oppose it.
What are your thoughts?
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We have immigration laws for a reason, people should obey them. If people are allowed to get away with not following the letter of the law, then all laws should be optional.
I'm so tired of people acting as if our government and resources are the solutions to everyone and every country's problem. It's not, we're not.
Apply for immigration, like many of the other immigrants who have moved her legally, work legally, pay taxes legally.
You have to prove your citizenship status when applying for a job, why not when you are being interrogated for a violation of the law?
So what happens when a person is pulled over by police? They ask for Driver's License, Vehicle Registration, and Proof of Insurance? Sounds absolutely horrid to me!
Ok, Bloomington, the Cesspool of Progressive Poo in Indiana. Fine, I will no longer go to, buy anything from Bloomington or Monroe County, and no child of mine will ever walk the former hallowed halls of that Division II School there either.
Best to the residents of Arizona who have been forced to do what our worthless Congress gets paid to do and refuses to do (enforce existing laws). Throw the incumbents out - all of them!!!
jan bednarz
I too will boycott anything Bloomington. How ridiculous! The public wants illegal immigration under control. Would all of you in favor of Bloomington on this be willing to allow anyone from lets say Iran or Afghanastan to move to Indiana at will with no restrictions? Millions of them? Tell me the difference between that and a bunch of Mexicans streaming across our borders. Bloomington, you make me sick!
BTW, I always carry ID with me whenever I leave the house. The idealists and students at IU probably don't. They should start doing so.f
Mexicans should not be above the law just because the federal government (again) can't do their job. We also need to tax employers who hire legal and illegal ââ?¬Å?green cardââ?¬ï¿½ holders. It is reasonable to tax at least a daily fee of $5 to pay for the extra public services required for green card holdersââ?¬Â¦.and to help US workers.
pay your taxes; live by the rules; and LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past. As an AMERICAN, we HAVE to have a passport to leave or enter our country or any other country!! What in the world makes people think that they have any other option!! It's clearly stated!! So, I'm having an extremely hard time understanding why in the world this is such a critical issue??? Didn't some illegal immigrant just kill 3 people up in Seattle AFTER he was deported and ILLEGALLY came back into our country??? Now, we as tax payers will have to pay for his sorry life behind bars for the rest of his life!!??
I'm sorry, but Bloomington to jump on the bandwagon of so many other misjudging states - I'm definitely boycotting Bloomington!!
Any how, THIS should be a prime example why Indiana shouldn't pass a law like this. The last thing we need is a large boycott (and growing larger by the minute).
At the end of the day, Arizona passing this law has not affected me, and to be fair the people shouting from the rooftops to pass a bill like this, most likely are not Latino. Think about it from a LEGAL Latino immigrant's perspective, would you feel comfortable in a place where you feel the need to be forced to carry around identification.
Fortunately, Bloomington is but a blip on the radar screen and doesn't represent the majority of Hoosiers' support for the Arizona law. Alas, Bloomington was also a big supporter of the Klan in bygone eras, so it is hardly surprizing that they are still out of touch.
IU and Bloomington, SHAME ON YOU. I am boycotting you and your idiot run school and I have transferred to IUPUI to finish my degree. As someone who lived in California for 20 years, you have NO IDEA how destructive and crime ridden the illegal aliens have made my life. They forced me out of my home with their sheer weight in numbers and created towns where no one speaks English and to speak English is seen as insulting.
I BOYCOTT YOU, BLOOMINGTON.
The Bloomington library renovation work is being done primarily after hours by people who seem to speak only Spanish. Are they legal workers? Was this a factor in their decision?
I moved my residence and business and needed a motivation to move my banking, insurance, accounting and shopping to another city.
Diversity is an integral part of the American way of life. Giving illeagal immigrants a free pass to continue using free services paid for by legal residents and allowing tax free income to be shipped to countries that fail to enforce crime is not our way of life. Also looking the other way while illagal immigrants murder and sell drugs is not either.
My family came to this country to have a better chance and we went through the process. No one is asking any more from hopefuls than this. Political correctness has taken a crap right in the way of the moral and right thing to do. Your heritage or country of birth does not grant you special privilage. Becoming a US citizen does.
Bloomington officials have lost touch with reality and deserve any repercussions they get from this.
P.S.
Go back to the top and read the last line of this article. The author suggests Latinos who oppose the bill are not Americans.
An American of color, legal resident, or a person that speaks with accent will have to think twice and ask themselves will I be stopped when they walk out their front door to work, school, even to church. Yes this is separation from the mainstream and will affect the way Hispanic Americans are treated in Arizona???
To prevent racial profiling I believe the language of should include all persons legally stopped for any and all reasons and not leave up to police officers discretion, or reasonable suspicion. So when grandpas out walking the dog and Fido poops on the grass he better have his ID. , passport or birth certificate on him or Sheriff Joe is gonna have to take him to the poky until I.C.E figures out what to do with him.That' fair .Que no .
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I find it interesting that you fail to see the irony of not considering Mexico's immigration laws in regards to the USA's. Mexico is much more strict so why do you not protest for the right of anyone to immigrate to Mexico? In your arguments you equate Arizona law to Nazism or fascism. I am sorry but Mexico is much closer to that analogy.
I would also study the 4th and 14th amendment and the new law more closely. You will find that the 14th is not applicable to illegal immigrants:
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
and the 4th amendment is closest in spirit to your argument but in the late 19th century the Supreme court expanded the scope of enforcement of this law to include narcotics and greater leeway in probable cause. This effectively limits the scope of the amendment to primarily criminal activity and not essentially a right to privacy while in your car or home. It is true some search's are done illegally but such is the dangers of an overwrought democracy. The "citizens" are crying for action while the immigrants cry "foul".
If you research back two hundred years you will find nearly all large groups or waves of immigrants suffered discrimination(Irish, Germans, Japanese and so on) and predatory habits which at the time seemed politically correct and needed to balance the wants of the citizens.
So despite your cries of racial profiling what has happened is in actuality the demand of the society at large, the majority, which in a democracy still forces change and balancing of the wants of citizens.
Ramon if you are indeed a legal citizen than exercise your right, much like your free speech, to effect change but do not blame your fellow citizens for wanting protection and balance in the American democracy.
She has taken a beating in the press for these comments and although 70% of the country agrees with stopping illegal immigration, we are all skinheads. This is what they resort to. If you read the bill, you will be able to refrain from getting caught up in the hype rolled out by the Hispanic malcontents in LA city government that rolled out this crap to begin with. And I challenge you to get an genuine debate from
someone like Sombrero and AZHigh. You will never get one.
ââ?¬Å?JT Ready, who was photographed awhile back with his buddy, Russell Pearce (who says he doesn't know the guy) and at Saturday's anti-SB1070 rally.ââ?¬Â? ââ?¬Å?Shockingly, the connections to neo-Nazis donââ?¬â?¢t even stop there! On June 5th Pearce will be speaking at an anti-immigrant rally in Phoenix. The rally being organized by a man named Daniel Smeriglio who has participated in anti-immigrant rallies in his home state of Pennsylvania with former neo-Nazi Steve Smith. Smith belonged to the same neo-Nazi group, the National Alliance, which Russell Pearce passed on to his supporters via email in 2006.ââ?¬Â?
I'll leave it to others to decide whether Pearce is a racist or simply a race baiter, but as for Ready, who is proud of his affiliation with the National Socialist movement, there's no question�.
As to the claim I think your all skin heads I say no. But can you deny the connections of racist with white separatist philosophies to sb 1070?
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I suppose we have to wait untilcases actually find thier wat to the courts to find the answers to the constitutionality of the law and how it applies to each individual case. That should cost the State some tax dollars.
Your statement questioning my statusâ?? Ramón if you are indeed a legal citizenâ?? only proves that even you are tending to profile.
â??If you research back two hundred years you will find nearly all large groups or waves of immigrants suffered discrimination.â?? Wow!! Is that how you justify racist, uncivilized behavior. Itâ??s because the majority approves! I guess thatâ??s ok if youâ??re in the majority but in time majorities can shrink and become the minority. What then? By the way do you support the same rules the Senate?
As for free speech those of us who oppose sb 1070 will continue to call for an economic and travel boycott of Arizona. ; })-
"Unless you are contemplating sneaking across the border into Mexico your comparisons to Arizona, and the U.S. immigration laws are moot."
You failed to respond by jumping past the issue. Failing to acknowledge other immigration policies especially the border country in respect to the discussion is not only a waste of time but ludicrous
Ramon said:
"Your statement questioning my statusâ?? Ram�³n if you are indeed a legal citizenâ?? only proves that even you are tending to profile."
Extracting racial profiling from that statement is simply reversing the situation to deflect the attention from you. I asked a legitimate question, one which a free citizen is allowed in a Democracy. My intention was not determine your citizenship but to preface my comments that you could indeed make change IF you are a citizen by using the laws and policies in place.
Ramon said:
"??If you research back two hundred years you will find nearly all large groups or waves of immigrants suffered discrimination.â?? Wow!! Is that how you justify racist, uncivilized behavior. Itâ??s because the majority approves! I guess thatâ??s ok if youâ??re in the majority but in time majorities can shrink and become the minority. What then? By the way do you support the same rules the Senate?"
What you did here is call me racist. If you reread the quote with an honest attempt you will see I was quoting historical fact and explaining the reactions by the government to the cries from the MAJORITY of the citizens. I neither condoned nor rejected it.
I personally feel the enforcement of immigration laws is not consistent and needs reworking including the language of the law.
Here is another right of the citizens; I can sue you for libelous language (inferring I am racist) in a public forum but I choose not to. I can also boycott all things Latino which include products, companies who employee Latinos and so forth (What you do not know is if I am Latino). The issue here is manifold. In the first instance the Latinos are not at fault here. The government and the enforecment of the laws is the issue. In the second instance boycotting a state is neither effective nor logical because a state does not depend on you economically and is a sovereign piece of United State soil and as such will not disapear or dissolve unless done so by ratification of the congress.
So your calls for boycott are misguided at best and wholly a waste of time. You need to lobby the state legislature which may or may not be effective and lobby the US legislature which is another avenue. The problem is that the MAJORITY of Arizonians apparently feel the same way for this type of legislation to be passed so unless you can amass of majority of registered voters to lobby the Arizona legislature or vote your conscience than a boycott is akin to bailing an ocean with a spoon.
My suggestion is if you want change then use the laws as they are intended or use your resources to effect change. What you appear to want is the benefit of both worlds. You want selective enforcement as long as Latinos are not targeted. You also want what the USA has to offer but you act as if it should be given freely without cost or expectation of loyalty to the country.
Sorry Ramon you can not have it that way. Threatening everyone with a shift in majority is a waste of time because everyone here with the exception of Native Americans are immigrants or descendants of the same.
BOCOTT ARIZON ; })-
IU only stands to benefit from being boycotted by the people above--at least that means there will be fewer people at the school who cannot tolerate people who have a different perspective than they do. Let the folks from the East Coast overrun the town.
Get your facts straight. 94% of Hamilton County's population holds a high school diploma or higher. 49% of Hamilton County's population holds a Bachelor's Degree or higher. The population of Hamilton County is two times that of Monroe County and Bloomington's individual stats drop significantly when the summer break reaches the town.
Bloomington should be all in favor of dispensing of personal liberties for everyone. The townie's and their elected officials try to govern what others do in so many areas, you'd think they would be in favor of another law in which the government is granted more power.
Differing opinions are relevant in every day life. Your previous elitist post suggests that those that differ from Bloomington's position are "untraveled, chain-smoking fatsos." Hey pot, meet kettle. Maybe you should slap another Obama sticker on your Volvo.
As much as I try to engage you in a meaningful debate you simply skirt the issue with nonsensical retorts and baseless challenges. Your heretical prose belies the lack of substance You neither answered directly any question or attempted to make a full effort to respond coherently.
I would try to dissect your last response but you have "sealed the deal" as the saying reads. Good luck with your head beating the wall and next time learn the American system of Democracy or read the constitution before you try to argue its merits.
And you answered your own question of rights. As a citizen, REGARDLESS of how you became one, enjoy certain unalienable rights. As a Human Being you should be treated in a dignified manner but that does not guarantee you shelter from due process if you break a national or international law unless it impinges on Human rights which illegal immigration does not and has never been proven to be so. If you want to immigrate it is quite easy to do so legally. I am sure it has kinks in the system but how can you condone the sucking sound of tax dollars being given to other countries simply because someone makes a conscience decision to break the law of the land?
I certainly do not condone police brutality and if they are wrong should be dealt with but if you read further there was precedence with the youth that most likely influenced the decision at the time.
Making a comparison to Kent State is a bit much since:
1) Kent State involved legal citizens of the USA
2) The era and American confluence was tinged by an unwanted and unnecessary war
3) Brutal force was utilized to quell a demonstration against the given orders
4) We ask and charge the border patrol to defend and protect from invaders foreign or otherwise. They are doing their job plain and simple. These are Humans as well so they have to use their best judgment. .
Simply turning a blind eye to a complex problem has not worked either. We need rules to govern the country and they need to be enforced. The millions of illegal immigrants are a drain fiscally and manpower wise. They also displace legal workers, like it or not, which furthers erodes the economic base which we need to rebuild the economy.
Is every illegal immigrant a problem? Certainly not, but to receive equal treatment you have to abide by the same laws equally.
" The Law of Equal Liberty" means any "each has freedom to do all that he wills provided that he infringes not the equal freedom of any other."
illegal immigration infringes on the legal citizens right to prosperity, safety and the American way.