Scotty's fishing for prime Hamilton County site

May 21, 2013
Back to TopCommentsE-mailPrintBookmark and Share

A management rift forced the abrupt closing of Scotty’s Lakehouse restaurant near Geist Reservoir, but local restaurateur Scott Wise hasn’t given up on Hamilton County.

Wise, whose company A Pots & Pans Production operates Scotty’s Brewhouse and Thr3e Wise Men Brewing Co., said this week that he has been evaluating potential sites for his growing family of restaurants—including a couple of options in Fishers.

Founded in Muncie in 1996, Scotty’s Brewhouse also has two locations in Indianapolis—including one on the south side of 96th Street near Keystone Avenue—plus restaurants in Bloomington, Lafayette and Mishawaka.

The Mishawaka eatery, which opened last month, is going gangbusters so far, Wise said. Now he’s turning his attention to plans for a Fort Wayne location, which could be delayed due to a financing glitch, and is fishing for other opportunities closer to home. (Louisville is also on his short list.)

Wise said he would like to re-establish a presence on the south side of Indianapolis and in the Geist area, where upscale burger joint Scotty’s Lakehouse operated for two years under a management agreement with another restaurant owner.

It and a sister restaurant in Columbus closed late last year after a dispute between the parties, reopening under new leadership as Detour American Grille & Bar.

Since then, Wise said he has talked with the developers of Arbor Village on 116th Street at Hoosier Road in Fishers—a site high-end grocery store Whole Foods also had considered—and discussed other possibilities with town officials working on downtown redevelopment plans. He's not sure yet where the conversations will lead.

“We’re going to put all our lines in the water and see what happens,” Wise said.

ADVERTISEMENT
  • Wake up
    Scotty has just had three locations close in the past six months. Maybe instead of "putting lines in the water" he should put himself in his restaurants a little more and improve the quality. If you focused more on quality and service instead of quirky promotions and gimmicks, these locations could sustain themselves. While he's focused on expanding, I predict we will see more local locations fail as people recognize the low-grade crap he's selling you at high-grade prices. There are too many better options opening in Indy at the same price point to waste your money here.
    • 3 wise men
      I do like his broad ripple restaurant, but I do think that the regular Scotty's has been down graded over the years. When They first opened eh offered a wide range of meats for their burgers from grassfed, local, bison, ect. Now there is little to differentiate it from any other chain. Maybe people did t like all of the choices, who knows.
    • Wait for it
      Scott would be Wise (pun intended) to wait for the new downtown development to be under way. That would be a great location for a Scotty's.
    • Carmel maybe?
      I hear that Detour Grille may move out of its Carmel Main St. location because of a dispute they're having with the mayor over not being allowed to have live entertainment. I wouldn't be surprised if a Scotty's moved there in its place. Wasn't big on Detour's food anyway.
      • Love to see Scotty's in Carmel
        I have only been to The Precedent Scotty's location, but food and service have been consistently good and they are always packed. I'd love to say 'good-bye' to Detour(big babies). Since that area is built and intended to a mix of residential and business, there should not be any kind of noise level that would disturb any of the homeowners or patrons nearby. I've been to Detour only once (all it takes for me) and the food was so-so and overpriced and the service was under-par. Keep on trucking Mr. Wise!
      • Lakeside > Detour
        Scotty's Lakeside at Geist was SO much better than this new Detour. We enjoyed the family nights, atmosphere, food and selection of local beers at Scotty's Lakeside. The new Detour has a lower level of service and we were not impressed with the food and beer selections. Would love to have Scotty's Lakeside back!!!
        • Village of West Clay
          Scotty's in the Village! Come on Scott - bring a new restaurant to the Village of West Clay in Carmel...tons of homes going up in the area and not a good food place within 2 miles. We'd love a place like Scotty's Lakeside, where kids are free to roam and the parents can have a drink. You could have live entertainment on the green (the HOA already arranges it during the summer months). Two places recently closed due to management issues, so the opportunity is perfect.
        • Perfect Geist Location
          Hope Scotty's can work something out to locate in the retail center at 96th & Mollenkopf Road in Fishers/Indianapolis.
        • Mike Hocksbigg
          no kidding...come on Scotty you either need to sell the whole thing or build some capital. Take your time or get out unless you want to be bankrupt again.
        • More information
          The 3 locations that closed were *not* 100% owned by Wise - he managed them for an investor who there was a rift with. Scott Wise had nothing to do with those locations closing. I miss having Scotty's in Columbus, and now that the one near Greenwood closed, there's no Scotty's location that is convenient for those of us in Columbus, which is a shame. I miss the people most, and the menu a close second!
        • Read
          You should read the article before commenting. It states the other sites closed because his contract to manage that Site was up. Hence why all these locations are now detours, same idea, when their contract is up it will probably change again. All of the Scottys his company Pots and Pans actually own have not closed.
        • Get your facts straight
          I think people need to get all their facts straight on the three locations that closed. These were locations that were franchised out by Scotty, not 100% owned by Scotty and I think it was lesson earned in regards to someone else using your brand. I think anyone that went to Scotty's lakehouse at geist knows that placed was normally packed on a regular basis and the food was excellent. And I have been to the location as Detour and I am not impressed especially with the food and the overall atmosphere and it wouldn't shock me to see if eventually close down.
        • Food?
          I live in the Geist area and Detours food is getting rave reviews from us "patrons" compared to the food they offered at the lakehouse concept.
        • better?
          I live in the Geist area and Detours food is getting rave reviews from us "patrons" compared to the food they offered at the lakehouse concept.
        • Great News
          I'm happy the Mishawaka location is going "gangbusters". I've been there several times since its opening and was a little worried about lunch traffic. So I'm glad to hear it is doing so well. While I'm not in love with Scotty's food, I much prefer supporting a small, Indiana-grown chain than an Applebee's or Cheddars.
        • Hoping for the best...
          I hope that things go well for Scott Wise and Scotty's. We became Scotty's customers in 2006 (probably earlier than that, actually) and have seen a lot of changes since then, and not all of them have been good. While we prefer to support local business and generally avoid chain restaurants, right now Scotty's has fallen off our list of favorite places to go. Hopefully, there will be yet another menu change soon and we will check it out online in the hopes of going back.
        • Arbor woould be good place to move
          We loved lakehouse and think the Arbor Village would be a great location. It is less than 2 miles from over 1000 rooftops in the 225,000 to over 1 million range. Many people could use the great fishers trail system to bike or walk there. Just an idea Scotty -- but maybe something closer to 3 Wiseman would good. The only microbrew in area is Ram (boring)
        • quality co. serving the public
          Come on folks. Scotty's is not a bad program. Quality product good service. I truly liked the Lakeside location, much better than the current deal. I think Scotty does a good job for a fair price. Would like a full menue but I feel like in general the product is solid. Sounds like he needs to run his own show and ditch the partnerships. M
        • Hopeful
          Hoping you take over at Brooks School and Fall Creek. Miss you.
        • Hopeful
          Hoping you come back to Brooks School and Fall Creek.

        Post a comment to this blog

        COMMENTS POLICY
        We reserve the right to remove any post that we feel is obscene, profane, vulgar, racist, sexually explicit, abusive, or hateful.
         
        You are legally responsible for what you post and your anonymity is not guaranteed.
         
        Posts that insult, defame, threaten, harass or abuse other readers or people mentioned in IBJ editorial content are also subject to removal. Please respect the privacy of individuals and refrain from posting personal information.
         
        No solicitations, spamming or advertisements are allowed. Readers may post links to other informational websites that are relevant to the topic at hand, but please do not link to objectionable material.
         
        We may remove messages that are unrelated to the topic, encourage illegal activity, use all capital letters or are unreadable.
         

        Messages that are flagged by readers as objectionable will be reviewed and may or may not be removed. Please do not flag a post simply because you disagree with it.

        Sponsored by
        ADVERTISEMENT
        1. If what you stated is true, then this article is entirely inaccurate. "State sells bonds" is same as "State borrows money". Supposedly the company will "pay for them". But since we are paying the company, we are still paying for this road with borrowed money, even though the state has $2 billion in the bank.

        2. Andrew hit the nail on the head. AMTRAK provides terrible service and that is why the state has found a contractor to improve the service. More trips, on-time performance, better times, cleanliness and adequate or better restrooms. WI-FI and food service will also be provided. Transit from outlying areas will also be provided. I wouldn't take it the way it is but with the above services and marketing of the service,ridership will improve and more folks will explore Indy and may even want to move here.

        3. They could take the property using eminent domain and save money by not paying the church or building a soccer field and a new driveway. Ctrwd has monthly meetings open to all customers of the district. The meetings are listed and if the customers really cared that much they would show. Ctrwd works hard in every way they can to make sure the customer is put first. Overflows damage the surrounding environment and cost a lot of money every year. There have been many upgrades done through the years to help not send flow to Carmel. Even with the upgrades ctrwd cannot always keep up. I understand how a storage tank could be an eye sore, but has anyone thought to look at other lift stations or storage tanks. Most lift stations are right in the middle of neighborhoods. Some close to schools and soccer fields, and some right in back yards, or at least next to a back yard. We all have to work together to come up with a proper solution. The proposed solution by ctrwd is the best one offered so far.

        4. Fox has comments from several people that seem to have some inside information. I would refer to their website. Changed my whole opionion of this story.

        5. This place is great! I'm piggy backing and saying the Cobb salad is great. But the ribs are awesome. $6.49 for ribs and 2 sides?! They're delicious. If you work downtown, head over there.

        ADVERTISEMENT