Scotty's taking over Detour space in Carmel

February 26, 2014
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After an admittedly difficult year dealing with the fallout from the closure of two of his namesake eateries, restaurateur Scott Wise is starting 2014 with a bang.

Wise is finalizing a deal to locate a Scotty’s Brewhouse in a prime spot along the Monon Greenway in Carmel’s Arts and Design District. The 6,500-square-foot space at 110 W. Main St. housed Detour: An American Grille until it closed abruptly this month.

When it opens in late April—a week after a long-awaited Brownsburg outpost is scheduled to debut—the Carmel restaurant will be the eighth Brewhouse location. The ninth, in Fort Wayne, is expected to come online in late summer. Parent company A Pots & Pan Production also owns Thr3e Wise Men Brewing in Broad Ripple.  

Wise also lent his name to upscale burger joint Scotty’s Lakehouse near Geist Reservoir and a sister restaurant in Columbus, which his team operated for two years under a management agreement with another restaurant owner.

Those locations closed in late 2012 after a dispute between the parties, reopening last year under new management as Detour American Grille and Bars—a concept Wise said started with a former Scotty’s employee who struck out on his own. (The now-defunct Carmel location has a different owner, and the ex-employee is no longer involved.)

“It’s kind of ironic,” Wise said of taking over the Detour space. But “I’m a guy who looks at all opportunities.”

Because the restaurant concepts are so similar, he doesn’t expect the space to need much work. Wise’s company is buying Detour’s fixtures, furniture and equipment, and it’s negotiating with building owner Keystone Group to take over the lease.

Unlike Detour, which featured live music that sometimes ran afoul of the city’s noise ordinance, Scotty’s strives to offer a family-friendly atmosphere, Wise said. The Carmel location also will open at 9 a.m. on weekends during warm-weather months in hopes of drawing some breakfast customers in from their morning Monon activities.

Despite the unplanned foray into Carmel, Wise remains interested in returning to Fishers’ Geist area. He has looked at locations near 116th Street and Hoosier Road and further east at 116th and Olio Road, and he’s open to other options, too.

“All the plays are on the table,” Wise said. “I’d even consider our old space” if it were available.

Wise also is in discussions about the possibility of opening a Brewhouse in an old train depot in Richmond, and officials are close to announcing a Muncie location for Thr3e Wise Men.

More immediately, Wise is working toward a May opening for a new concept: a Bloomington bar called C3 at Renwick Village, which he’ll operate under a management agreement. Plans call for classic cocktails and small-plate cuisine.  

And after that? “We want to try to get out of state,” he said.

The communities at the top of his wish list: Louisville, Cincinnati and Columbus, Ohio.

  • Live Music
    When did the live music run afoul of the noise ordinance? I spent many summer evenings there listening to live music and never once was it stopped due to complaints. The trail was filled with people stopping to listen. I hope you will continue to have live music!
    • Cindy P Response
      Cindy P, when Detour started featuring live music, the Mayor originally welcomed it and said that people in the area needed to get used to it because the area was getting more vibrant. As time went on, they had a couple of events get out of hand the the "right" people started complaining to the city. In reversal of what they originally said, the city started sending police and officials with decibel meters and they got their events shut down several times. If you Google it, there was a lot of politics at play. The city also held the little avenue outside their door between them and the Monon hostage and wouldn't let them host parties on it, costing them a lot revenue several times. Finally, both sides came to agreement to not be so loud and not let events get so out of control. Unfortunately, all that lost revenue, combined with reports of bad service and mediocre food (reviews online), finally did them in.
    • Miss the Lakehouse!
      Would be great if Scotty's could take back the Lakehouse too - Detour may be a spin-off but it's definitely not the same.
      • Service
        Too bad for d-town Carmel, because Scotty's has the worst service of any local bar! Guess i'll mark that one of my list!
      • Detour's detour
        Where Detour went afoul in Carmel was due to their food, which was mediocre on the best days. The music was "ok", but high priced drinks and lousy food was the main culprit.
      • Positive Add to Carmel
        Sorry to hear about Brian's bad experience at Scotty's - I had the same experience at Detour and of course never went back (the prices were horrendous for what was offered). I've only had great service and food at Scotty's and it's always packed at the 96th Street location. Can't wait for them to be a part of downtown Carmel!
      • Lakehouse Fan
        I miss the Lakehouse as well. Detour's food is not that great. Maybe they can make it a package deal! Lol.
      • Hats Off To Scotty's
        I have been to Scott Wise's restaurant locations all over the city and state and Scott and his team run OUTSTANDING establishments be it burgers, wings, pizza, or beer. Kudos to Scott for once again answering the call when opportunity knocks. Scotty's will be yet another great addition to the Carmel scene. The two times I have been to any of the Detour locations, I was never imopressed. My wife and I absolutely LOVED the Scotty's Lakehouse location (as did many other folks) It would be OUTSTANDING if they could ever make it back to that area. Have not been to that location since Scotty's Lakehouse left.
      • Scotty's to BBurg
        When and where is Scotty's opening in Brownsburg? We've long awaited more fun places to eat in Brownsburg ... can't get here soon enough !
      • Scotty locations
        I wonder if Brian's Scotty experience was in downtown Indy. I've heard nothing but horror stories about that particular Scotty's. The food is not bad though. So maybe the Carmel location will be much better
      • Reply
        Thats the problem. The music was not stopped when complaints came in.
      • Awesome-Sauce
        I moved here a year ago and spend the first 5 months living in downtown Carmel. I tried Detours on numerous occasions and was never impressed. When my wife joined me here, we bought a house close to the Scotty’s 96th Street location, and Scotty’s quickly became one of our favorite places. The food is very good, the beer better and the service very friendly. I am excited to see Scotty’s come to Carmel and get us back downtown. I hope they can replicated the environment they’ve created in their 96th Street location. Good luck... you have our loyalty.
      • Fingers Crossed
        The service at the downtown Indy location sharply declined. If the service is good (and stays good) at the new location, I think it will be a great addition.
      • Lakehouse = Great Food
        I'm from from Tipton County but would make a trip to the Lakehouse as often as timed allowed when we first our son in Fishers. Loved your food. Detour's food is not that great and we never have been back.
      • Looking forward to Carmel
        We became Scotty's fans at the Lakehouse, a few miles east of us buth worth the drive every few weeks. When it closed, we now go to the 96th street location, also about every few weeks. My favorites? The stuffed and dirty vodka martini and what I call the "grown-up" grilled cheese (#1) with tots. I work about five minutes from the old Detour Carmel location, so I'm looking forward to introducing my work friends to Scotty's, both at lunch and after work, once it's open there. I'm so happy to hear about this!

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