Sarah Palin's influence on Indiana

September 4, 2008
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Sarah Palin won rave reviews for her speech last night at the Republican National Convention, as did Barack Obama when he closed the Democratic convention last week.

This morning, the Associated Press quoted Democratic Party leaders in Indiana as saying Palin wonâ??t attract voters who delivered Indiana to Hillary Clinton in the May primary election.

"Hoosier voters will not select the next president of the United States based on the gender makeup" of the ticket, said former Indiana Secretary of State Joe Hogsett.

Hogsett and an Obama campaign manager also said that Indianaâ??s 11 electoral votes could play a crucial role in the general election.

What do you think? Will Palin be a factor here come November?
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  • No........most Hillary supporters (I feel) didn't vote for her just because she was a woman, but more about what she believed in........healthcare, prochoice, ect. There may be a few detractors, but for the most part I don't think she influences ex-Hillary voters.
  • Personally, I'm insulted by the Palin choice on a couple of points. First, she is completely inexperienced and thus appears to be a token female candidate. She is not the only woman in the RNC, but obviously she was chosen for her photogenic qualities. Secondly, my intelligence is insulted by the RNC's constant use of shiny objects to distract the American public. Ooo, let's put a shiny female candidate out there - you're too stupid to look for substance and we'll win your vote.
  • Agreed-no. Mrs. Palin proved last night that she supports continuation of the same policies of the existing administration and the conservative Republican platform in general.
  • I agree with all of the earlier posts. It is insulting to think that women vote only on gender and not issues. We're not voting for Miss Congeniality, we're voting for a vice president. Those women who supported Hillary--and I'm one of them--would never vote for the McCain/Palin ticket. I'm also disturbed by those who say the media should back off Palin. Why? If she wants to be vice president, she should receive the same scrutiny as any male VP candidate.
  • You're kidding me, right? Get a grip! The reason Hillary received so many votes in the primary was due to the Republicans voting for her so that the democratic primary would continue as long as possible to burn cash. Not only will the
  • I thought she did a wonderful job solidifying the Rep. base. Definitely not getting any Hilary votes. I tend to vote Rep. but as soon as I saw who they picked, I said I won't vote Rep. this year. It has nothing to do with her being a female. McCain is a little older than I would like for a president but not to old yet; however, chosing a vp with no practical experience is not acceptable for me. No offense intended, but Gov of Alaska is not the same as many other states, in my opinion. I agree with the earlier post; don't the reps have any other sharp females to choose from? In 8 years, with more experience, I may be on Sarah's bandwagon because she is very likeable and appears to be pretty sharp, but not this year. She is a deal buster for me.
  • Let's look at all the reasons the Democrats are afraid of Palin as an advantage an the Republican ticket.
    1) She is not a Washington insider and she is not afraid to do the right thing for the entire population, not just those who can get her elected.
    2) She actually runs a balanced government budget.
    3) She actually knows the costs of running a household.
    4) She has made the tough choices of problem pregnancies.
    5) She connects with the masses of Democrats on their work issues not the least because...
    6) Her husband is a union member (which must scare the heck out of the Democratic planners, as it should)
    7) She is a generation younger than McCain and like the career minded Democratic candidate who cannot find time to author legislation because he is too busy writing memoirs, that mid career generation, and the even younger generation, wants someone they can relate to in the presidential circle
    8) She isn't afraid to acknowledge that more drilling is not the only answer but it is definitely a part of the whole answer
    9) She is in favor of lower taxes for all people while still maintaining a balanced budget
    10) She is a female and contrary to what multi-election loser Hogsett says, people are ready for a female in that post, regardless of political party.

    Sarah Palin is going to have an impact, and it is going to be to deliver a landslide election to her ticket.
  • The AP article Norm is referring to also mentions the Indiana wing of Obama's campaign sees Indiana as in-play for the Dems. While Palin will probably not attract a sizable portion of Hillary supporters, what she will do (and is already doing) is creating enthusiasm among social conservatives. If Indiana ever was in play for the Dems, I would expect a Palin-energized conservative base to take it right out of play.
  • I do not even see why anyone would think Palin would interest Clinton voters. It is insulting to think that the ONLY reason Clinton's supporters voted for her was because she is a woman. There is no comparison in experience or on their policy positions. If the Republicans chose her thinking that she would attract Hillary's supporters, it only goes to show how out of touch they are. Surely they wouldn't believe very many Republican women were going to switch just to support a woman; why then, would Democrat women do that.
  • Indiana is not in play. Any freshman political science major would know that. But people (women in particular) OUTSIDE of metro Indy will relate to SP. Republicans know one thing, a dirty little secret: the blue collar democrats (little d) are social conservatives, like SP, like it or not. Dems need to confront the issue head on, not ignore it. I will not vote for McCain or Obama (they both make me sick), but make no mistake: SP has and will continue to galvanize the base of the party, and OBAMA is going to have to work hard to win OHIO, if he ever had a chance, and now IOWA and FLA are heavily tilting towards MCC-SP. It's all electoral math, not who's ahead in the poll among DC and BOS-NY corridor elites. Baring unforeseen econ meltdown or blowout, this election just tilted right, and hard.
  • Palin is very attractive, photogenic and a good public speaker. The things she said were offensive. She had the opportunity to introduce and ingratiate herself to millions of people last night. Instead she chose to use the opportunity for repeated negative digs. The GOP did not distinguish themselves last night. When they should have been stating their agenda and why we should vote for them they appear to be running scared and slinging arrows at the Dems, some of which were pretty low and inappropriate.
    She may be pretty to look at but the possibility of her ending up in the White House is a frightening prospect.
  • I think Sarah Palin WILL attract some Hillary supporters because she is very much down to Earth, like they enivision themselves. She is knocking the socks off the establishment right now and people are loving it (AND HER)! I also think a lot more Independent votes just swung her way as well. There is a great balance in a McCain/Palin ticket, one you don't see on the other side.
  • I only have one question for all the above bloggers: Did Palin say anything about Obambi that wasn't true? You may have found her comments offensive but it's only because they were dead on accurate and you can't come to grips with the fact that your previously held opinions of Obambi are now being challenged in a way you are uncomfortable with - I didnt hear a single reporter state what she said was inaccurate - deal with it - Obambi isn't remotely qualified to be POTUS. Nobody on Hillary's list of supporters is going to switch to the R ticket because of a female VP - they're going to switch because they know the D's answer for everything is higher taxes and more government and that it is the wrong answer.
  • JB, I am not one of the above bloggers, but I'll comment on what I think SP said about Obama that was not true.

    Victory in Iraq is finally in sight; he wants to forfeit, Palin said of Obama. Al-Qaida terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America; he's worried that someone won't read them their rights.

    He wants to forfeit? Come one now. He disagrees that victory is in sight and feels dollars and lives are being wasted, like many of us feel.

    He's worried that we won't read a terrorist his rights? No, he's worried that average Americans rights are in danger of being taken away.

    Personally, I have never been a Hillary supporter but I do like SP. Hopefully, she will get away from the partisan attacks.
  • Sorry, meant to say Come ON, now.
  • You ask a democrat and of course they are going to tell you that Sarah will not take any of the Hillary votes.DAH!!!

    Women are more apt to strongly consider another female but she has to prove herself. Sarah is an intelligent, articulate, knowledgeable leader with experience in goverment that has yielded the kind of resullts the US is seeking. She is detemined and not swayed by politics or the good old boys . Kudos to McCain for choosing Palin!! It demonstrates he meets needs and problems with creative, out of the box solutions.
  • Dear JB,
    NOTHING Mrs. Palin (or rather, her speechwriters) said about Obama's platform was true, from Iraq to taxes to the environment. All Republican spin, or worse, outright intentional lies (which continue even after the R's were informed of the errors). Take a look at www.factcheck.org for NONPARTISAN analysis.
  • I do know after her speech is that she is a good orater. She is a Hockey Mom, I know everything about each individual in her family, more than I need to know including who her in-laws are. I know that she can be a fighter and attack Obama in a sarcastic, and sometimes not fully thought out critique and that she was a mayor of a 7000 person town.

    Her state has a balanced budget - not bad - although the sizeable amount of federal dollars her state has recieved from the crooks that are being investigated I'm sure helped that situation. Other than all of those things - what are her issues, is she just going along with John McCains policies. Does she have any ideas of her own, whats her vision as Vice President? She never talked about the economy, about health care, about education, about infrastructure, and mentioned a line about the war and how her son is invovled with it. - Again a family reference.

    Fluff-Family-jokes-Family-Family-McCains Coat tails is all I saw.
  • If someone can just tell me how Obama is qualifed to be President I would be glad to listen. I will sign out and listen to your answer ...
  • How is Obama qualified to President of the United States?

    Well, Obama won 18 million votes through the course of the Democratic Primary. That’s right – 18 million votes. 18 million red-blooded Americans felt as if he was qualified. He wasn’t “selected” like Ms. Palin was. That’s a big difference.

    In addition, while serving as an Illinois State Senator, at last count, Obama had a sponsored 820 laws, and had authorship of 152 bills and co-sponsorship of 427 bills in Washington. The 2007 Ethics Reform bill alone cannot be dismissed as simply non-existent - as Palin wrongly stated last night.

    And since part of Palin's own claim to substance is an ethics reform bill, it seems extremely weird that she should believe that Obama's record is a total zero. When he passed the 2007 Ethics Reform, it was described by many as the most sweeping package of its kind since Watergate. In addition, he faced countless tough interviews through the course of a long and arduous campaign and emerged with a reputation for fluency in discussing affairs of state. Palin has yet to truly face the media.

    Palin's vote totals for mayor were measured in the hundreds; she has served only 20 months as governor of a state half the size of Brooklyn, and knows nothing of national or international issues beyond energy.

    Obama is leagues above the “Palinator.” I hope and trust the all voters of Indiana (women in particular) will be able to look past the right-wing spin and see the Palin move for what it is....a cheap political stunt.
  • Palin will have an impact. She is conservative, religious, pro-life, bull- headed, small town thought processes, and a journalism degree. She should relate well with most Indiana women.
  • First, she is completely inexperienced and thus appears to be a “token female” candidate.

    As she so clearly stated last night, she actually has Executive experience running a government and not as a community organizer whatever that may be. And the use of the word token coming from an Obama supporter is hilarious.

    Another Obamanation rockstar fan all shook up by the little girl from Alaska.
  • Maybe we need to return to a political science lesson. The hard core Democrats would vote for Garfield if he was nominated (comments on qualification withheld) while hard core Republicans would vote for any other equally ridiculous candidate. But elections are not won and lost by the hard core voters. Elections are won by the middle swing voters, those who vote for a candidate and those who vote against a candidate. There will be many who vote against Obama because like it or not, there are still millions of American with just enough racism in their mind, that they will absolutely not vote for a black man. It's all about strategy, and there is a long term strategy here in place for getting Sarah Palin near the White House.

    The second lesson is about whether Obama has been effective at authoring bills. The answer is a resounding no. In Congress, a co-author is someone who was too lazy to do the work him or herself, but wanted to ride on the coattails of someone else. Additionally, many will only provide support if they can be listed as a co-author so that they can make that claim for pure political gain later on. So he authored some bills back in Illinois. Big deal. That was then, he is now running for national office and as a national Senator, he has not felt it important to take the lead on any issue. But he sure can talk a good game. Gee, I wonder if I spent enough money on a speech coach, if I could make a good run for office. Guess what..the answer is YES and so can anyone else. Let's look at qualifications and experience, not the ability to stand and deliver talk show points which won't impress anyone in another country and certainly not those who are hell bent on hurting us.
  • Whatever happened to Christie Todd Whitman? She would have been a perfect choice for VP, male or female.
  • HATE. HATE. HATE. HATE. GO REPUBLICANS!!!!
  • I think all Palin did was solidify Republican votes. I will not disagree that she invigorated the McCain campaign. However, for anyone who thinks that independent voters are going to swing McCain's way now, you're in for a surprise. I'm an independent myself, but plan to vote Obama. I never even entertained the idea of voting for McCain, but I have friends who did until Palin was announced. Now they're firmly in the Obama camp. I never once supported Hillary or ever liked Hillary, but I think she looks like Doris Day next to Palin. Palin and her extreme right / conservative / christian ideas frighten me. No thank you!
  • RJG, just to clarify, the state of Alaska actually has only about 1/4 the population of Brooklyn according to the 2006 Us Census Bureau Estimates; 670,000 to 2,500,000.

    Also, the belief that the only way to have executive experience is to have been a mayor, governor, CEO, or the like is just ludicrous. It is the same crap people started spouting when Myers was nominated for the US Supreme Court about her not having been a Jurist previously. Lots of great Justices had never sat on the bench prior to the Supreme Court and a lot of great presidents had never held an executive office. This type of theory is entirely the product of propaganda.
  • The prospects of 4 more years of the same economic policies of the last eight years, are just too painful to think about. This Republican message about fight, reform, no taxes for wealthy, just doesn't cut it anymore. I don't want a pit bull in the Whitehouse. I want someone who is going to use their mind.
  • The Republicans don't get it. There principle economic theory for the last 20 years has been to encourage wealth at the top would create jobs at the bottom. The problem is when companies like Wellpoint make 3Billion dollars last year and then freeze wages and new hiring. But they also increase pay for the very top 10 managers over 50% from 2005.
  • What would you expect from the AP or the Democrats on Palin's effect of the vote, straight talk? Everything is spin, whatever outcome they hope for they will spin it that way. Their worst nightmare came to pass last friday when Palin was announced, and they quicly want to pretend she won't matter. Put your money on Palin attracting a large volume of sleepy voters, because she knows how to get people excited
  • Re the notion that SP was selected to absorb the disenfranchised HC women voters. Has it not been the media and pundits that have put forth that idea? Listen to what McCain says about her and why he chose her -- it certainly had nothing to do with wooing the socially liberal female vote. Why is it so difficult to believe that he wants a fresh, fearless proven leader with fire in her belly for getting things done and apparently the skills to deliver? Only a politically naive speculator would think the HC supporters look only as sex as a factor. John McCain is anything but politically naive. Further, how dare anyone minimize her accomplishments because she's from Alaska instead of a more largely populated state. Skills are skills, regardless of the relative number of people you represent. Remember, she's faced-off with some of the most powerful people in thte world: big oil people. Her meteoric rise from PTA mom to governor occurred because she is a natural leader. She will in fact influence the election and she will attract hundreds of thousands of men and women to the McCain/Palin ticket for her beliefs, her courage and her leadership.
  • N Worstell- great post. As many people tuned in to watch Palin as watched Obama and more tuned in last night to listen to McCain. The ultra liberals want to bury their head in the sand and try not to listen to the renewed enthusiasm that Plain brings to the table along with actual Executive experience, Christian values, and a family that is more in touch with middle class America than Obama and Biden combined. Obama has probably never been to a Wal Mart in his life....
  • Palin and her extreme right / conservative / “christian” ideas frighten me. No thank you!

    And you and Obama's Socialist views frighten me.
  • While adding Sarah Palin to the ticket has created interest, Hoosier voters will not be distracted. Hoosiers will not reward Republicans for their policy failures over the last eight years.

    In addition, for someone new to the national political scene claiming to be a reformer and bring change to Washington, she certainly figured out how to engage in partisan politics rather quickly.

    Albeit an articulate and engaging speech, what really shined was her ability to speak the same, tired partisan political speak we've been hearing for years.
  • Brett in Indy writes, Obama has probably never been to a Wal Mart in his life…..

    If this is your idea of a critical qualification factor for the next President of the United States, then you need to seriously re-think your evaluation standards.
  • I guess I am confused about who is running for President. I thought it was McCain v Obama. It seems that because McCain is unable to speak for himself, he has had to bring in a surogate to say what he thinks. The electorate has temporarily lost sight of the real issue with Palin. Is she by any measure ready to be President? If your answer is no, then you might want to focus not only on the issues, but also on McCain, his health and his age.

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  1. The east side does have potential...and I have always thought Washington Scare should become an outlet mall. Anyone remember how popular Eastgate was? Well, Indy has no outlet malls, we have to go to Edinburgh for the deep discounts and I don't understand why. Jim is right. We need a few good eastsiders interested in actually making some noise and trying to change the commerce, culture and stereotypes of the East side. Irvington is very progressive and making great strides, why can't the far east side ride on their coat tails to make some changes?

  2. Boston.com has an article from 2010 where they talk about how Interactions moved to Massachusetts in the year prior. http://www.boston.com/business/technology/innoeco/2010/07/interactions_banks_63_million.html The article includes a link back to that Inside Indiana Business press release I linked to earlier, snarkily noting, "Guess this 2006 plan to create 200-plus new jobs in Indiana didn't exactly work out."

  3. I live on the east side and I have read all your comments. a local paper just did an article on Washington square mall with just as many comments and concerns. I am not sure if they are still around, but there was an east side coalition with good intentions to do good things on the east side. And there is a facebook post that called my eastside indy with many old members of the eastside who voice concerns about the east side of the city. We need to come together and not just complain and moan, but come up with actual concrete solutions, because what Dal said is very very true- the eastside could be a goldmine in the right hands. But if anyone is going damn, and change things, it is us eastside residents

  4. Please go back re-read your economics text book and the fine print on the February 2014 CBO report. A minimum wage increase has never resulted in a net job loss...

  5. The GOP at the Statehouse is more interested in PR to keep their majority, than using it to get anything good actually done. The State continues its downward spiral.

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