Renderings: $4.7M rugby park near Fountain Square

January 15, 2013
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A local youth rugby group plans to build a $4.7 million rugby complex on the former home of the Twin Aire drive-in near Fountain square. Indiana Youth Rugby has raised $1.2 million and plans to break ground once it raises another $500,000. Citizens Energy donated the 26-acre parcel along Keystone Avenue south of English Avenue. Citizens hopes the rugby project helps spark redevelopment on a former coke-plant property it is cleaning up next door. Terra Site Development is handling design and construction. Click on either rendering for a larger version:

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Read more about the project here. What do you think?

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  • April fools!
    I must be reading this wrong. For a second I thought you said that they were building a rugby complex in the hood near Fountain Square. Wait--this isn't a joke??
    • Fountain Square's Great!!
      Why not Fountain Square? That neighborhood is starting to really take shape. Lots of young people moving in...money being pumped into bars and restaurants down there...seems like the perfect time to jump. You should hang out down there "April Fools."
    • wonderful
      This is the most wonderful news!! Great for the fountain square community!
    • Fools agreed
      I have only been to Fountain Square a couple of times and it does seem like the next neighborhood to take off and be the place to go for food, drinks, shopping etc. However, you go a block or two in any direction from there and it turns real quick into a completely different neighborhood. Not sure a rugby park will have the support in this area.
    • IF
      If you build it they will come.
    • Fountain Square
      Fixing up the Fountain Square area is like taking an ugly woman in for a very expensive makeover. Yeah, they can make her look better, but at the end of the day, they can only do so much.
      • makeover
        They said very similar things about downtown Indy not that long ago.
      • why not?
        So people in long neglected neighborhoods should expect continued indifference from developers and the rest of the citizens? It may a financial risk but one that is welcomed.
      • April Fool
        God, everything has naysayers at every turn. I'm glad there are good people out there working hard to make my community (Fountain Square) better, while other people sit from the comfort of their computers and say how it isn't possible. That's been said about every single urban area in the country that has transformed itself. Fountain Square is no different, despite what the mouth breathing lords of nay say.
      • lol
        To all of the naysayers. I know life is rough because change is rough. Getting away from your computer(or your vehicle) and out a little bit to witness Indy's transformation as a better community through developments like this may help you become...i don't know...a little less naive? Is this a bad development simply because it may be down the streets from some things 'less desirable'? Here's a game. It's called let's live in Indy. Think about where you live, and walk 5 blocks one way and 5 blocks the other (no driving allowed, SORRY). How desirable is that for you? Welcome to Indianapolis. Keep it real, people.
      • SIGNAGE OVERSIGHT?
        The I65 northbound exit for Fountain Square is BEGGING for a fancy exit sign. Fountain Square is growing as a destination community for IUPUI students. It is becoming as lively as Mass Ave. It needs SIGNAGE off the highway making people turn off I65 and into the emerging area.
      • Rugby Field
        I'm not opposed to a rugby field, but I hope the EPA has cleared the ground for this purpose. I'd hate to have kids rolling around in dirt contaminated by the old Citizens Gas coke plant. Carcinogens, lead, etc.
      • Is Indy Parks on Board?
        Great project, great location (despite the negative Nancys who seem abundant here). This spot is right on the much-neglected and seldom used Pleasant Run Trail, and connects to Garfield Park, Christian Park and Ellenberger Park, as well as the Pleasant Run Parkway system. I hope this development will be the spark to encourage DPR to give a little more love to the trail that runs along it. It's a diamond in the rough.
      • Great News
        Rugby is a great sport and this could bring in lots of money for local restaurants. It's not hard to get a tournament with 20-50 teams. Indy's central location would be a plus for this.
      • Thrilled
        I don't live in Fountain Sq. In fact, I don't live in Indianapolis (I'm in Plainfield), but my family and I love driving into the city and spending a day. Downtown is awesome, Mass Ave is awesome. We recently discovered Fountain Sq by way of eating at Siam Square (and loving it). I am all for developing and improving any area that's on its way to becoming a destination. I am thrilled and excited for the folks who live in the Fountain Sq area. I think it will bring a lot of positive growth to the area. Indianapolis is a wonderful, thriving city and the reason is because of all the positive change. Keep moving forward. Can't wait to see the finished product.
      • Indy Parks and Citizens Energy
        Wow, it sounds great! I would also ask Citizens Energy to donate land around the Pleasant Run creek to Indy Parks, so they could continue the Pleasant Run Trail there.. it's not a bad trail to bike/walk, but it seems to quit there.

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      1. The $104K to CRC would go toward debts service on $486M of existing debt they already have from other things outside this project. Keystone buys the bonds for 3.8M from CRC, and CRC in turn pays for the parking and site work, and some time later CRC buys them back (with interest) from the projected annual property tax revenue from the entire TIF district (est. $415K / yr. from just this property, plus more from all the other property in the TIF district), which in theory would be about a 10-year term, give-or-take. CRC is basically betting on the future, that property values will increase, driving up the tax revenue to the limit of the annual increase cap on commercial property (I think that's 3%). It should be noted that Keystone can't print money (unlike the Federal Treasury) so commercial property tax can only come from consumers, in this case the apartment renters and consumers of the goods and services offered by the ground floor retailers, and employees in the form of lower non-mandatory compensation items, such as bonuses, benefits, 401K match, etc.

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      5. http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/duke-energy-customers-angry-about-money-for-nothing

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