LA Fitness proposes facility for corner of 86th and Ditch

February 12, 2013
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LA Fitness 86th
                              and Ditch IndianapolisA 41,000-square-foot LA Fitness could replace two vacant commercial buildings including the former home of Cinema Grill at the southeast corner of 86th Street and Ditch Road. The plans by Fitness International LLC call for demolition of the two existing buildings on more than 10 acres between a CVS and a 1960s apartment community. The plans would require a minor zoning variance addressing a "maneuvering area" between the proposed new building and the apartments. The city's planning staff is recommending approval of the plans, which are scheduled for a public hearing today in front of the Board of Zoning Appeals. The developer has agreed to install wall-mounted lights that will face downward on the east side of the building. Cinema Grill closed in May 2012 after a 13-year run.

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  • That's a CVS brah
    not a WAG
  • Still Sad that Cinema Grill Closed
    It is still so sad for me to see Cinema Grill closed. I wish someone would have purchased it and re-opened. What wonderful memories we had there.
  • Enuf Fitness Centers
    A fitness center is located across the street from this proposed site and another fitness-oriented business already is located on the same parcel of land as this proposed building. Plus there are plenty of fitness centers in the area some of which are not making it due to a flooding of the market. Hoping the property owner can find alternative suitors for that parcel.
  • Sorry lifelong neighbor...
    ... But there is plenty of room in this city for additional fitness centers. If there is any reason for these businesses it has to do more with lazy Hoosier mentality than "over saturation". I welcome this proposal! Even with Cinema Grill there this particular shopping center has been a dump for many years....
  • Fitness Center
    Lifetime, YMCA,24 hour fitness, planet fitness, golds gym,anytime fitness, etc are all in a 8 minute or less drive from that corner. Why do we need a big player there? Another box store. Is there enough parking for a gym this size?
    With Indy being the fattest city in the country, I'm not surprised at all with all of the negative reaction to this gym. Sorry they won't be building a mega Golden Corral for you fatties.
  • Golden Corral
    Golden Corral? Now yer talkin'. That's some good eatin'.
  • Redevelopment!
    This sure beats the heck out of having two vacant buildings! And I haven't seen any other proposals for new use for this space.
  • Dumpy Center
    Marshall, or any other, what has caused this center to have become a "dump for many years?" High density population, reasonably convenient location, surrounded by middle and upper middle income households, major hospital nearby. Curious.
  • Thanks TL
    Updated the post on CVS vs. Walgreens. As you can see, Google Maps is a bit off with its locator icon.
  • Location
    cinema grill's building is not a good retail location since its largely hidden by the closer buildings, so I suppose putting a large LA Fitness building back there is a good use for that particular parcel. Though I'm sure I'd feel different if I lived nearby.
  • Fitness Center
    ggal – impressive comment: first you complain that there are too many fitness centers nearby, implying that there won’t be enough customers for this new fitness center, then you worry that there isn’t enough parking for all the customers who are going to flock to the new fitness center! I think it’s a great development, and a welcome addition to the area.
    • Agreed to disagree
      While I can agree with earlier comments about too many gyms in close proximity to this location, LA Fitness is notorious for oversaturing its customer base. Just look at the Broad Ripple and Carmel West locations. As a LA Fitness member, I welcome another location in order to possibly spread out what locations their members go to.
    • Fitness Center
      Michael I was not complaining but pointing out how many are in the area. If it means the area will have new business great. My concern is another big box store opens. If it doesn't survive it is another empty building. If does survive there needs to be enough parking as there was not enough parking when Greenbriar Atheltic club was open and busy along with the theater. I live in the area. I am hoping it will only be good for the Washington Township area.
    • Dont consider dump
      In my and my husband's opinion, this is corner is one of the best in town. We are planning on moving to that area when we move from our current home. It has everything we would need in a 3 block radius and sidewalks along 82nd for 5 miles. The strip mall next to this and across the street have constantly improved over the last 20 years. A huge fitness center is not what I think is best due to traffic and parking but one of the few draws that can stand being "off" the main drag. Yall need to go to Tulip Noir, Half Price Books, Thrifty Threads, etc.

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    1. PJ - Mall operators like Simon, and most developers/ land owners, establish individual legal entities for each property to avoid having a problem location sink the ship, or simply structure the note to exclude anything but the property acting as collateral. Usually both. The big banks that lend are big boys that know the risks and aren't mad at Simon for forking over the deed and walking away.

    2. Do any of the East side residence think that Macy, JC Penny's and the other national tenants would have letft the mall if they were making money?? I have read several post about how Simon neglected the property but it sounds like the Eastsiders stopped shopping at the mall even when it was full with all of the national retailers that you want to come back to the mall. I used to work at the Dick's at Washington Square and I know for a fact it's the worst performing Dick's in the Indianapolis market. You better start shopping there before it closes also.

    3. How can any company that has the cash and other assets be allowed to simply foreclose and not pay the debt? Simon, pay the debt and sell the property yourself. Don't just stiff the bank with the loan and require them to find a buyer.

    4. If you only knew....

    5. The proposal is structured in such a way that a private company (who has competitors in the marketplace) has struck a deal to get "financing" through utility ratepayers via IPL. Competitors to BlueIndy are at disadvantage now. The story isn't "how green can we be" but how creative "financing" through captive ratepayers benefits a company whose proposal should sink or float in the competitive marketplace without customer funding. If it was a great idea there would be financing available. IBJ needs to be doing a story on the utility ratemaking piece of this (which is pretty complicated) but instead it suggests that folks are whining about paying for being green.