Roundup: Greek's, Napolese, The Melting Pot, LA Fitness

February 27, 2013
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  • Compass roseGreek's Pizzeria is coming to downtown Carmel. The popular Muncie-based chain with restaurants in Broad Ripple, Fishers, Noblesville, Zionsville, south Indy and downtown is taking about 2,000 square feet at 120 E. Main St., in the Carmel Cleaners building. The restaurant will take about two-thirds of the building, with the drycleaning operation remaining in the rest, said franchisee Josh Trisler. Trisler and his partners hope to open the restaurant in mid-April.
  • The Melting Pot has closed its restaurant in Greenwood. The fondue restaurant chain, which had operated the Greenwood location on State Road 135 since 2006, blamed "economic and financial reasons" for the closure. The Melting Pot restaurant at 86th Street and Allisonville Road remains open for business.
  • LA Fitness plans to build a new location in Noblesville. The 35,000-square-foot gym will join Kite's Stoney Creek Commons shopping center east of State Road 37 at Town and Country Boulevard. The building is planned for the southern edge of the center, next to Office Depot and HHGregg. The Lowe's-anchored center also includes restaurants including Chili's and Chick-Fil-A. The fitness chain has eight area gyms and is adding more.
  • Rue 21, the Pennsylvania-based fashion apparel retailer, plans to take 4,500 square feet in the Centre West shopping center between Lafayette Road and Interstate 65 in front of Walmart. The chain has existing stores in Brownsburg, Noblesville and Plainfield.
  • Napolese downtown at the 30 South Meridian building is hosting friends and family events this week and is scheduled for a soft public opening on Friday. An earlier blog mention is here.
  • Papa Roux has closed at City Market but continues to operate its flagship at 10th Street and Post Road.
  • Hoover restaurants overrated
    I think the Napolese / Patachou brands are highly overrated. $3 Diet Coke? They bring you a warm can. $3.50 coffee? They point to a table and tell you to go get it yourself. Good food, horrendous service, surprisingly high prices. But Indy has such a dearth of decent restaurants that these places are wildly popular.
  • Not True
    I am sorry, but I will have to disagree with you. I have had nothing but great service in Patachou and Napolese. While it is pricey, the taste is worth spending a bit extra. I also will disagree that Indy has a dearth of good restaurants. Open your eyes; they are on all sides of town. So sick of people saying that there are no good restaurants.
    • Patachou Service
      I have always had good, friendly service at Napolese. I do not believe I have ever had what I would call good service at any Patachou restaurant. The servers are harried, distracted and generally inattentive. The food, though, is good. And GB is correct: there is not a dearth of good local restaurants in this area. Actually, there are many quite nice ones at all price points.
    • Bark is right
      @GB: You clearly have not traveled much. Indy is fantastic if you grew up here or somewhere smaller.
    • Hoover
      I agree Bark, the Hoover restaurants are decent, but overrated. But in a city that is overrun with chains, they look great in comparison...
    • Indy
      Yes, Indy has some nice local restaurants. But if you think our restaurant scene is on par for a city our size, you must have never been outside of the state. Just travel to Louisville or Cincinnati and you will see how they are head and shoulders above us. Hoosiers love their Applebees and Cheesecake Factories, theres not much you can do to change that.
      • Service
        Well, since the topic is up for discussion, my wife and I were just saying a couple of days ago, how we like the food and atmosphere of Napolese (which is less than a mile from home), but that the three times we have been there our service has been less than spectacular. Once our server forgot to bring our salad before the pizza came so we said not to bring it, and then we had to tell her to take it off the bill at the end. The last time we split a goat cheese appetizer, salad and a pizza and it all came out so fast we had all three on the table at once at some point. The jowl bacon on the BLT made the entire pizza so overwhelmingly salty that we both took one bite and couldn't stomach any more. Not complaining about the food in general, but it was obvious by our reaction and the fact that we didnt touch the pizza that there was something wrong and the server didnt even acknowledge it. This is the kind of place where you want to relax, and talk over a glass of wine while you eat, and each time the timing of the meal has made the experience either feel hurried or chaotic.
      • well...
        ... seems to be a lot of self appointed foodies commenting here. Indy is certainly no L.A. or Chicago when it comes to the culinary scene, but anyone complaining about a dearth of options is the one that needs to get out. Maybe it wasn't too long ago that may have been true, but that is definitely NOT the case anymore. And yes, I DO travel and have lived outside of Indy (Atlanta, Los Angeles and Miami) for the past 10 years.
      • Hmmmm...
        @Indy I have lived outside of Indy, including Lousiville and Indianapolis very much has food scene up to par. The problem is, people like yourself already have a set opinion of Indianapolis that is impossible to change. Try to actually get out there and look to find them. They are there.
      • Midtown
        I completely agree that Indy has plenty of local restaurants. I travel nationwide on a weekly basis and eat out regularly when I'm home. My wife and I like to try new places and rarely find ourselves eating at the same establishment more than twice a year. Midtown alone has had an explosion of great new restaurants. Come check them out instead of complaining.
      • Local Restaurants
        I agree that Indy has plenty of good local restaurants. My only problem is that the ratio of good local restaurants to chains Downtown is not high enough. Keep bringing places like Napolese Downtown and this will keep changing for the better, like it has been for the past decade.
      • Napole$$e
        Wife and I went to Napolese after it first opened. It was very busy, and we had a wait. We end up sitting at the bar, which was kinda nice because we were able to watch the cooks make the food. I believe the owner, or maybe former owner, was there, and actually served us and took our order. The pizza was good and service good, but it was just too costly. I'm a fairly frugal person, even though as a childless couple, we could easily afford to drop $ a few times a month on costly meals, we don't. For me, Napolese just wasn't worth the price we ended up paying. I found Pizzology's prices much more bearable, but even then still higher than what I would care to spend for what is ultimately just pizza. High temp cooking pizza is good, but I don't see why it needs to be so costly.
      • bob
        I would agree very high prices. Decent food, but over priced. Service is def hit and miss. Twice within a couple of months I had gone with my daughter out to breakfast as a special daddy / daughter day. We were directed to sit down, but the service ended there. We didn't even have anyone bring us water. Finally after 15 mins and the people beside us came in and ordered we left. I kinda feel it was a bit snobbish not to serve my child and I.
      • on a somewhat related topic
        I saw someone bring up Pizzology in Carmel. I have never been there but heard great things. In an earlier (a few months ago) Property Lines article, it was mentioned they are opening a new location in Nora. I have not seen any development in the bldg they are supposed to go in to. Anybody know what is going on there?
      • Love Napolese!
        Napolese, like all the Patachou locations, uses exceptional ingredients--which are a bit more costly, but worth it. (And I think Patachou service is always good.) I'd rather go to a Patachou place once a month than to lesser places every week.
      • Pizzology
        There's a little activity at the Nora location of the planned Pizzology from time to time, but I wonder if they're having permit problems or if Neal Brown is too distracted with his many other projects to focus on getting this one open.
      • @Indy
        @Indy, I live in downtown Chicago's Gold Coast, an area filled with wonderfully delicious, locally owned and renowned restaurants. To say our palates are spoiled is an understatement. I have family in Indy and try to visit often. I'm amazed at how many great, locally owned restaurants have opened up in the last few years, especially on the far northside and in Carmel. My family, like myself, believe in supporting locally owned establishments and eschewing chain restaurants as much as possible, so much so that I can't even remember the last time eating in one. Indianapolis Monthly magazine is a wonderful source of information with regards to dining options in Indy.

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