Update: Rendering of new CSO headquarters

July 12, 2010
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CSO renderingPlans for a new headquarters for locally based CSO Architects will mean new life for a vacant eyesore at Keystone at the Crossing. Bally Total FitnessCheck out the rendering showing the company's vision for the 24,000-square-foot former Bally Total Fitness facility at 8831 Keystone Crossing, and the photo of what's there now. Click on either image for a larger version. CSO plans to spend $1.8 million renovating the building and plans to apply for LEED certification. An earlier post is here.

  • Green?
    So from the picture and rendering, it seems they're cutting down trees and paving over grass? How many LEED points do they get for that?
  • Grass
    Love the Asphalt, it's sooo Indy.
  • Yeah.......
    I'm pretty sure this building doesn't need a parking lot......this builing is surrounded by a sea of parking.
  • progress?
    i like the old look (trees and grass) - plenty of parking in back (garage) - save a few million dollars!
  • eyesore?
    Isn't it bit extreme to refer to it as an eyesore?
  • CSO Office Design
  • Parking
    Where would you suggest that they park? Furthermore, where will visitors/clients park? In the parking garage at the rear? Um, 1) The parking garage isn't connected, 2) I'm sure only a small number of spots are reserved. CSO would probably have to pay a premium for reserved spots in the garage.
    To Otis Sines: You must be looking at a different picture. I drive by this building all the time when heading to work. It's a complete eyesore. I'm glad CSO is picking up the tab to make it "pretty".
  • Really?
    Really Ottis? You actually prefer the look of the old building to the new? Um... ok, but I can't really take any of what you said seriously now.

    To the person who would have CSO "save the trees"... most of what is pictured, from what I can see, are invasive tree and shrub species. Not much that needs saving, if you ask me.
  • huh?
    Where did all the members of Bally Total Fitness park?? They must have had ample parking for a gym, so there is no reason for more parking! Such a disgusting Indianapolis mentality.
  • IndyArchitect
    IndyArchitect, they don't have a connected parking garage?! OH THE HORRORS!!!! Someone might have to walk more than 10 feet. Such a tragedy, I tell you.
    • WTF?
      Is Indy having a contest that I'm not aware of for the architecture firm with worst sited HQ? Look our Cripe!
    • Maria....
      "Connected", as in contractually connected, not literally connected. Please tell me why CSO would pay a premium to the mall for sub-par parking for clients/visitors when it can have its own parking?
      Also, what has not been reported is that CSO is adding a new entrance to the building, as it has no discernible front entrance as it currently stands. I agree that there's a lot of parking already in that area, but do you really expect CSO to WANT its potential customers to park in the back of the building and walk around to the front? Of course not.
      People, this site isn't a park. It's an eyesore. People see green and automatically think it's precious. Sorry...nothing precious about this little piece of grass in the middle of a retail and business complex.
    • and....
      kudos to CSO for preserving a building rather than tearing it down and building new.
      I can't say I'm a big fan of the addition CSO is proposing myself, but what's proposed is infinitely better than what's currently there.
    • LEED Credits
      Though some people will defend the design, Thundermutt raises great points in questioning what sort of LEED Certification CSO is pursuing in cutting down trees in order to build new impervious surface. (Commercial Interiors, perhaps?) The three trees in the photo to the lower right are too mature to be considered invasive or a by-product of neglect since Bally's left. LEED certification exists precisely so that creative firms can adaptively re-use while expanding the synthetic footprint as little as possible. Sure, this is better than tearing down, but by reconfiguring the entrance they are sacrificing several other conservation opportunities. If this were a conventional developer, it would be harder to criticize this decent proposal. But it involves one of the foremost architecture firms in the region, and they clearly have the in-house talent to devise something exceptional.
    • Entrance
      Does it really matter where the entrance is? Its at Keystone and the Crossing. Not sure how many people are strolling past on foot. I think its terrible that LEED awards buildings that sit in totally car-oriented environments. It encourages people to believe this is a sustainable way to develop cities. Why not put a green roof on a coal plant?

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