Retail roundup: OshKosh, Express, Noble Roman's

October 11, 2010
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  • Compass roseOshKosh B'gosh plans to open a 4,000 square foot store in the River Shops center next to The Fashion Mall at Keystone. The store is taking over the former Bear Creek and Sienna Amore spaces west of Bed Bath & Beyond (not Smith & Hawken as an earlier version of this post reported). It will be the first Indianapolis store for the children's clothier, which is part of Atlanta-based Carter's Inc. The chain does have a store at Edinburgh Premium Outlets.
  • Express is building out two new stores at Greenwood Park Mall. Coming-soon signs are up on the former Disney Store in the J.C. Penney hallway and between Von Maur and the food court. The Columbus, Ohio-based chain has stores at Castleton Square, Circle Centre, Hamilton Town Center and Clay Terrace.
  • Noble Roman's has closed its restaurant along 96th Street just east of Interstate 69. This was one of only a few old-school format Noble Roman's restaurants that still serve the original delicious deep dish. Property Lines knows of at least three that remain: 16th Street and Shadeland Avenue, Southport Road and Emerson Avenue, and 10th Street and Girls School Road. Eat up!
  • Majors Sports Cafe has closed its Carmel restaurant. The Minnesota-based chain of sports bars opened its first out-of-Minnesota location in 2007 in a former O'Charley's restaurant along 116th Street. A sign on the door says a seafood and sushi buffet is coming soon.
  • Longhorn Steakhouse has closed its location along 116th Street west of Keystone Avenue in Carmel. The chain, part of Orlando, Fla.-based Darden Restaurants, is opening a new Longhorn location along 82nd Street in front of Castleton Square Mall.
  • Virginia Kay Doughnuts has filed plans to open on the eastside. The shop is planned for a 950-square-foot space at 420 S. Kitley Ave., a block north of English Avenue.
  • Golden Dragon, a carryout Chinese restaurant, plans to open next door to a Village Pantry shop at the corner of Crawfordsville and Country Club Road in Indianapolis. The restaurant is taking about 1,000 square feet.
  • Tri State Jewelers plans to open along Washington Street downtown. Signs are up in the windows and work has begun inside the building at 42 E. Washington St., a few doors down from Dunkin Donuts.
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  • Former Cokesbury?
    Have you heard what's going in at the old Cokesbury store on 116th in Fishers? There's lots of work being done but no sign of what's going in.
    • Major Sports Cafe?
      Newsflash: The Major Sports Cafe closed several months ago. It's been empty since last spring.

      Being replaced by a seafood buffet? What's the over/under of it being closed within one year?
      • re: Former Cokesbury?
        I've heard it may be a liquor store. Not positive though.
      • Noble R's on West Side
        Cory,
        The best-ever Noble Romans is on the West Side at 10th and Girls School. It's not a company O&O which probably explains why it's still so good. Our son and his family come from Philly to go to this store, where he had gone since his elementary school days.
      • Noble R's on West Side
        Best deep dish pizza in Indianapolis.
      • wondering
        Anyone know what's going on with the former Abby location over by the library??? Seems like that would be a good location for a bakery or another coffee house.
      • Majors in Carmel
        I just noticed the other day that a Hardee's across the street has also closed.
      • Noble R's
        Thanks for reminding me, David! I'm going to add that one to the post.
      • 116th in Carmel
        Too bad about the closing of Major's (several months ago) Longhorn and now the Hardees along 116th Street in Carmel. These closings are due no doubt to the Keystone renovation which has wreaked havoc on that commercial strip for the last several years, as well as the weakening economy. Hopefully, there will be some sort of commercial revival in that area now that construction (thank god) is about done, and the economy is starting to comeback....
        • Actually
          Regarding the 116th Carmel Drive commercial area - With the screwy new dog bone interchanges and having to get off at 116th to get off at Carmel drive and vice versa, not to mention that now, for non-residents it is easy to just blow by the area and head north to Clay Terrace, I'm afraid that this are is doomed which is just another example of unintended consequences when a government (Mayor Brainard) just builds what it wants without thinking things through.
        • Believe the Noble's in Franklin is still open in the Kroger shopping center.

          Also a near clone to Noble Romans (Chicago's) is open in Franklin just south of the Fairgrounds. Deep dish pizza is very similar, same breadsticks, and when they opened, they showed silent movies like Noble's.
        • Major Sports Cafe

          New restaurants go belly up for a wide variety of reasons: under-capitalization - they think they'll be self-supporting too soon - usually 2x to 3x too early. Restaurants, and stores in general, have a problem with locations because they're signed into a particular lease, then when renewal is required, it's jacked up by the owners.

          I love new restaurants, so I'll be eagerly awaiting the ones listed.

          My wife & I have been married almost twenty-four years. Ask her how many restaurants have survived my kiss of death: one. One.

          We hit a lot of new restaurants at two times: in the first 7-10 days, then 10-12 weeks, to see if they've cleaned up any problems from the first visit.

          We were at a microbrew in Castleton. I asked for some tomato-based salad dressing - French, Russian, Catalina. They didn't have any. I took the waitress aside and told her to find another place to work before they closed. Sooner rather than later.

          It sounds silly, but why did I say that? Because tomato-based foods are extremely popular in this region. This was their first shop outside of wherever their home base was. If they didn't research us well enough to get that right, there had to be plenty of other things which were as wrong (or worse). I didn't have to hunt. I just knew there were other issues. We went back for the 2nd visit and the same waitress wanted to know how I knew what I knew - that word was out they were going to be sunk - like a 3" Tiger Woods putt.

          The only one to survive is Logan's Roadhouse on 82nd street, midway between Castleton and Keystone/Crossing. Dozens of others...?

          While I'm thinking about it - as far as operations go with the headcount, 90% of the people work at sites with fewer than 50 people. Everyone hears about the big boys cutting people lose. But there aren't -that- many businesses employing that many people. All of the little stores you see (including most restaurants)...*poof* 400 stores -> 20k people have become unemployed. What do you think is easier to find: businesses with 20k people or 50?
        • Downtown
          The owner of Mo's steakhouse is opening a sushi bar in the old Have A Nice Day Cafe location downtown on South Meridian St to be called Sensu sometime in February.
          When Eddie Met Salad is opening a new deli on Illinois Street at the end of October.
        • Osh Kosh Correction
          It would be nice if someone researched the facts before printing something that is not accurate. Osh Kosh IS NOT taking the former Smith & Hawken space. They are taking the former Bear Creek and Sienna Amore spaces west of Bed Bath & Beyond. Smith & Hawken's former space is still available for lease!
        • Amen!
          Amen mister! He sacrifices other property owner's properties in order to fill up his own! You would think he would have more community awareness and concern!
        • OshKosh
          Barbara - My research was a call to the company that owns the center, and they said it was taking the Smith & Hawken space. That could be wrong... anyone else know for sure?
          • Osh Kosh Correction
            Cory - I am the leasing agent that represents the owner of the shopping center. I did the deal at the center and I am the one you would have/should have spoken with regarding which space they are to occupy.
          • OshKosh
            Barbara - I'm updating the post. Thanks for getting in touch.

            - Cory
          • Relax
            Wow Barbara take a deep breath and relax.
          • Cokesbury
            It's a Crown Liquor store.
          • Barbara, probably better and certainly more professional to call a reporter then to call them out on their blog. That said, I am sure most of us are not too worried which exact space it is going into.
          • Golden Dragon
            Is the Golden Dragon that is opening owned by the same owners of the one at 116th and Allisonville? I hope it's just an expansion of their business, and they don't plan to close the one in Fishers if they are. The owners are awesome and they really care about their food/ service.
            • Golden Dragon
              Whoops- I was thinking of Dragon House. All my best to Golden Dragon as well :)
            • Barbara you think....
              Maybe you ought to calm down and actually get a tenant for the Smith & Hawken location since you have this much time on your hands.
              Just saying....
            • 116th st closings
              It is really sad that the restaurants could not survive the mess of construction. There will probably be several more as they continue to work on keystone roundabouts. The cones will be there until 2013 I am sure.
              The ridiculous double interchange with carmel drive and 116th and side exits etc. should kill the rest of the stores. What a shame.
            • Shadeland Noble Romans
              The Shadeland Noble Romans has looked closed for the last month or so.
            • Shadeland
              The Shadeland Noble Roman's has "looked closed" for a decade: dark windows, no obvious facade repairs or improvements, and few if any cars in the parking lot.
            • Tomato Pie
              Looks like tomato Pie is toast. Website is gone, phone number disconnected....I thought they were doing well?! It is/was @ 96th and college for you Southsiders.

              Any confirmation on this anyone?
            • Tomato Pie
              Da Hoosey the owner of Tomato Pie closed that location becasue he is opening a new concept.
              (Taken from Indy Dish)
              Tomato Pie Bistro owner Adam Brent plans to launch a new restaurant concept in the former location of Zoe's Yogurt Village/Gourmet Franks in Broad Ripple. Tentatively named Sugo (Italian for sauce) in October. Brent says he plans to close Tomato Pie Bistro this fall and put it on ice, with the intent of relaunching the pizza spot in a new location in the coming years.
            • Zoe's Yogurt/Gourmet Franks
              Is Gourmet Franks closed?
            • Sweet!
              Closer to home comes Tomato Pie! that yogurt/hot dog place was stupid anyway.

              Yea for me!
            • Noble R's East
              There is a "new school Noble Romans" at 16th and Post.
            • Pei Wei at Glendale
              Do you know if the Pei Wei is still going to open at Glendale. We would love to see more restaurants opening there - especially since the multi-modal path along 62nd Street will be installed next spring!
            • Pei Wei
              Ginger the last time I walked by the Pei Wei space they had just posted all the permits they need to start finishing the space and that was 2 weeks ago so they are still coming but no real work has been done.

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            1. How is the private developer going to repay the bonds. Is this going to be a toll road?

            2. As well as a Portillio'S!!!!!!

            3. A Lou Malnati's would be awesome!!!!!!!!

            4. We aren't broke. We just aren't willing to raise revenues for this that we should be raising them.

            5. OK. now that the state is taking illegal immigrants, willing or not. There is a major concern that needs to be addressed. First: School starts here in 3 weeks in most parts of the country and probably in Indiana. So is the state going to vaccinate these kids before they intermingle with our kids in school? The problem we are going to have here in the US and possibly in Indiana is that some of these kids could be carrying health issues or diseases that are pretty much eradicated in the US. This could cause a major health issue in the US. Second: Who is going to pay for this building disaster? We are flat out broke….. Down here in Texas, we have 14 counties that have been so swamped with kids, (numerous thousands of them), they are on the verge of financial collapse. Now this is happening in counties in New Mexico, Arizona and California. The system is massively overloaded. Swine flu has started back up in San Antonio since they have nearly 2500 kids that have been placed there and lice is rampant. Not to be insensitive, but we need to stop this madness. I find it amazing that we cannot take care of our veterans and yet give carte blanche to illegals entering the country. Recently an article mentioned that these kids and teenagers can get on planes without TSA screening? What? What the Hell???? Keep in mind this about protecting our national sovereignty as a nation and also living under the rule of law. Not only the terrorist threat that can come over the border. This is a deliberate and irresponsible and illegal act from administration ignoring the constitutional duty of protecting the borders and also upholding the supreme law of the land. This is a classic Cloward and Piven strategy to overload the system until it collapses.

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