City kicking in $5M toward reuse plan for Bush Stadium

June 16, 2011
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Bush Stadium redevelopmentCity officials are sharing new details of a plan to redevelop Bush Stadium into more than 250 apartment units, while preserving the stadium's façade. Local developer John Watson plans to reuse parts of the existing stadium for some of the units and add additional apartments in what had been the outfield. A rendering suggests the $23 million project will preserve the stadium lights and restore the baseball diamond, which was dismantled as the stadium was used as a midget-car race track and later as a dumping ground for vehicles collected under the Cash for Clunkers program. Rental rates for the units will range from $480 to $1,400 per month. The project is expected to be complete by August 2013. The city is contributing about $5 million, including tax dollars generated in the area and more that will be transferred from the consolidated downtown tax-increment financing district. The  Indianapolis Indians played at Bush Stadium until 1996, when they moved to Victory Field. City officials revealed the plans for Bush Stadium at an announcement for a larger effort called 16 Tech, a vision that would require a public investment between $15 million and $20 million. Check out a PDF including several renderings of the plans here. The full story is here.

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  • Good & Bad
    If all the details provided come true this may be one of the best deals the city has crafted.

    Contributing only $5 million for basic infrastructure with $18 million in private investment doesn't sound too out of line for redevelopment.

    Nice idea to create a residential community with enclosed courtyard to jump start this area of town.

    The funding source for the rest of the tech corridor is completely misguided since it requires we sell the taxpayer owned water utility for pennies on the dollar and redirect proceeds away from utility infrastructure and a reduction of scheduled water rate increases of over 100%. Surprised it hasn't been rejected yet at IURC.
    • Great!
      Love it!
    • Sensitive area
      The core of this redevelopment area is an extremely sensitive zone, literally on top of a significant aquifer where high-capacity wells are used for Indianapolis' drinking water supply.

      Biomedical and research uses must have very good control of contaminants and pathogens there.
    • Lights
      Love that their keeping the old light on Bush Stadium development. How about adding a few low use LED lights to really create a landmark.
    • LOVE IT
      I absolutely LOVE it and I like Urban Dwellers idea about lighting it up with some LED's, that would rock. I can't wait to see the finished product!!
    • They are just renderings
      I'd be really surprised if they don't need to replace the existing roof structure, and I'd be surprised if stadium style lighting went back on top. I think these renderings are crafted to make it appear that the apartment buildings will maintain a lot of the appearances of the old stadium, but that when the final plans are crafted, it will be considerably different. These aren't plans. They are just conceptual renderings.
    • Brillant!
      This development idea is brillant!
    • Tiger Stadium plan
      I wish them better luck than what happened in Detroit. This is bascially the same proposal the City of Detroit had for Tiger Stadium. They were never able to find any interest, and all that happened was having a partially torn down stadium for a number of years. That was sadder than if they had just torn that beautiful stadium down right away.
    • Positive
      I love the idea. This is an awesome area for redevelopment as it is very close to downtown. It also has the benefit of being close to the White River, which someday could be a beautiful recreational area.

      I also love that the people commenting on IBJ see the positives and the chances rather than the negatives like in many other forums of local media.
    • Clarification Needed
      Cory,

      I read somewhere that the "field" is not going to be grass, but a paved area made to look like grass. Seems a grass courtyard/play area would be good for this facility.

      Second, can you check to see if the lights on the roof will be real or just there for the renderings. The lights really do make the whole thing look like a real ball park.

      All in all, a good solution to an ongoing issue.
      • Bush Stadium
        The comments about the acquifer bear noticing for development and the one about lights should also include no-light-pollution added by any development.
        But the idea and renderings are more exciting than many ideas that have been proposed for any number of projects. This one would fill many needs and be unique, too.
        As for White River becoming a recreational area, it is and has been. Some of it you have to look for like between Butler and Holcomb Gardens along the canal to IMA's 100 Acres and White River State Park which is completely served by existing (and well-used) greenway trails connecting to downtown. This section is beautiful and has several parks and public facilities along if from a rentable ballroom to boat docks to golf courses. Not to mention some of the most beautiful drives in the city bordering the above and even Crown Hill's paths and history.
      • Bush Stadium "grass"
        You can easily (and sustainably) put in pervious pavers with grass inserts that could handle limited traffic. For real paving there's also pervious concrete which allows water to dissipate through the surface instead of running off and causing (more) drainage problems. Should be required on ANY parking lot. Also proposed tree ordinance will require more trees and pervious surfaces even in industrial and commercial lots. And it's high time, too.
        • IURC rejection of water utility sale
          IURC is on the payroll and will give the utilities what they want, at citizen detriment. Why expect anything else in this business-is-sacro-sanct state?
          If the city is going to pitch in $5M of OUR money, why not do the same for Central State Hospital site; empty and deteriorating much longer than Bush, could use a shot of high tech jobs as much as 16th St. for residents and would lessen the misguided plans to put in 250-350 housing units in a place it isn't needed (and will add to an already stressed sewer system)and will devalue the area around it before it ever benefits it. Got the card before the horse, as usual.
        • Really?
          All this project is is a way of shoveling taxpayer money to government contractors. Do you all really believe people will want to rent apartments in an area that is the middle of an industrial area next to severely depressed residential area? You watch, Keystone Construction, a major contirbutor to the mayor and the company that hired Deputy Mayor Paul Okeson, will get the project.
        • Mixture of Grass and Concrete
          Indyman,
          The old field area will be mostly grass, with the base lines and plate areas concrete. The intent is to keep the light towers and lights, though I do not know that they will be operational. The developers intent is that people will still be able to see the semblance to the old baseball field that was there.

          IndyObserver,
          Your first few comments were well thought out and substantiated, but I am not sure why you started digressing to an unsubstantiated diatribe against the City and the area in general. Riverside and the 16th Street area have a lot to offer, not the least of which is their proximity to IUPUI, IU Health (Methodist, Riley, Etc.), Wishard, Marion College, Ivey Tech, the IMA, Downtown, and many other amenities, such as Riverside Park and it's three golf courses, the White River trail, and the Canal Towpath. I think I should throw in Long's Bakery as well:P Please keep in mind that two other companies saw fit to put quite a bit of their money into the area with the new apartments at tenth street/Indiana Ave and 1201 Indiana Ave.
        • You can use energy efficient, directed lights that will not add to light pollution, but still give the affect of the original lights.

          Indyobserver, I am sure no one would want to live in an old, tired, worn out downtown Indy. Or slums of the old northside and the near eastside. Same with the slums and mosquito infested swamps west of downtown around Lockfield Gardesn. Oh, thats right, those are some of the trendiest areas of town now.

          Anyone who does not think Indiana Avenue will develop into a desirable area of town, ignores the history of Indianapolis.
        • Pervious pavement
          This one problem with development over the drinking-water aquifer: If we infiltrate vehicle and salt-polluted runoff into the groundwater without bioremediation first, it's bad. If engineered or treatment-resistant bacteria or viruses get loose from bio-chemical research labs above our drinking water, it could be really bad.

          If we keep treating drinking-water sources as if they're no big deal, we'll get more polluted aquifers and expensive cleanups.

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        2. These quaint,obsessed musings by the stalkers are certainly entertaining, but I'm trying to figure out what, if anything, all the yelping below has to do with Zak Brown.

        3. It's evident that Moffett was pushing the right buttons and corporate America is now trying to squash him. He just wanted to withdraw the free pilot services provided to the company by the pilots to try and put some pressure on a company that has not been interested in negotiating a contract in over 5 years. The company does not provide a contract because not having one has saved them a bundle of money. Shame on any Republic pilots not standing behind their union leader just because things are getting tough, can you not see such strategic moves by the company as putting the last union president in a corporate position and into THEIR pocket. Do you really believe the last union president is so appalled at the attempts by Moffett, do you not remember his oppositions to the company? We stood behind him. It has been proven over and over again for thousands of years without fail, a man cannot serve two masters. Anyone that believes people vote contrary to their paycheck and livelihood deserve to be taken advantage of, the recent statements by the former union president are laughable as he denounces the current union president from his new corporate position. Have you ever seen a drafted sports player score points for his previous team, it cannot be done, he is not on the pilots side anymore, he gets his money a different way now than you and I do, and he should not be allowed to remain on the seniority list. A drafted player brings strength, credibility, tactical knowledge, and a strategic advantage to his NEW team, he would not be drafted or paid were it otherwise. We are all forced to choose only one side to play for and support, not doing so has many references in life such as insider trading and shaving points, all illegal for good reason. This basic fact is why corporate moguls, scientist, and engineers all sign non-discloser agreements and non-compete clauses, as protection in case they are lured into switching sides as our former union president has done. No NFL coach ever drafted a player so that both teams could benefit and better understand each other, they are recruited to win the game against that former team, period. Likewise the company does not recruit the former union president by accident or mutual understanding, its strategy. Don't confuse playing the game with good sportsman-like conduct in support of common business and prosperity goals, with the requirement to only play for one side. Good men we all love and favor fall subject to this manipulation, often without their knowledge, and it is not a betrayal of their friendship to oppose them when they switch sides. If we did not love and trust them, they would not have been chosen and lured to the other side in the first place. The deception by the drafted player is not made at a conscious level, it's just human nature and it's all about money and power which corrupts our ability to be objective and loyal to two masters. This is why our court system created the defense attorney, and why our military created counter intelligence. Its strategy and its propaganda, and it works, and that's why the "powers to be" manipulate the chess pieces by sometimes changing their colors. Some players know they are being manipulated when their color is changed, but it brings them more money and power so they do not care. The rest have good intentions but do not even realize they are being manipulated. This tactic is also known by another name, Divide and Conquer. In battle sending an imperfect message with an imperfect team is obviously not ideal, but it's still being sent by YOUR team, your union leader, a leader that has common goals and common rewards with you, they are the best, because we have elected them to do a job for us. If you are not backing Moffett but believing the spin by those that have recently switched sides, you are taking food out of your own mouth. Showing unity and backing an imperfect situation still results in taking just as much ground, it's about unity and bargaining power. It's not necessary to wait around for that perfect attack because it will never come, the company will spin and attempt to destroy anyone that gets in their way. Ultimately it's not about any specific attack anyway, ASAP or whatever it makes no difference, it is and always has been only about power. If this company cared about safety it would not build pairings with 8 hour overnights, come on, are you that naive? Besides, do you really think Hoffa cares, no, he got a call from corporate America and was squeezed into denouncing Moffett. If he didn't they would spin the safety card against him and the Teamsters National with implication for truckers, future contracts, insurance rates etc...saying something like the Teamsters use safety as a bargaining chip, blah blah blah... Do you really think any pilot is going to do something unsafe for the contract, absolutely not, the only ones threatening safety here is the company with reduced rest, fatigue, and poverty. Do you not find it odd that Hoffa and the Teamsters are opposing a Teamster president publicly? Would the Teamsters National not normally support and work with one of their own? Why did they not sit down and help him strategize, correct any mistakes, and charge ahead? Would the Teamsters National not normally support and leverage a contract for all those pilots that have been paying Teamster dues, isn't that why we have all been paying Teamster dues in the first place? I sure haven't been paying dues so that the Teamsters National could come along and write this kind of an article undercutting our union leader and our unity. Whose side is the Teamsters National really on, it's obviously not the Republic pilots side.

        4. No matter what Moffatt does the company is going to spin it like he is the terrorist and brainwash people like you into believing it, wake up, back your players that are trying to change things for you and your livelihood. Where has Hoffa been for the last 6 years, except collecting our dues. Seriously, do you really think an FO going for upgrade, signed off by a checkairman ready for the upgrade, who then fails, is not even capable of returning as a First Officer.

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