Fun with renderings: CityWay

August 3, 2011
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CityWay IndianapolisCheck out a few more-detailed renderings of the newly named $156 million CityWay project at Delaware and South streets. CityWay IndianapolisCity and development officials unveiled the new name, designed to reference both the project's downtown locale and the urban "way of life" it will offer, at a groundbreaking ceremony Wednesday.CityWay Indianapolis The complex, to be built primarily on Eli Lilly and Co.-owned parking lots, calls for a boutique 157-room Dolce hotel, a YMCA branch, 320 apartments and 40,000 square feet of retail and office space. Taxpayers are acting as the project's bank, putting up nearly every dollar used to build it, chiefly by loaning $86 million raised from the sale of municipal bonds. Locally based Buckingham Cos., the developer, expects to finish construction in about two years. (Click the renderings for larger versions.) What do you think?

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  • indymanAugust 3, 2011 7:59 PM
    Looks good, but renderings only tell you part of the story. Would be nice with a 3d fly through.

    I do not like the name and wish they would have kept North of South. Sounded trendier. Cityway sounds like a government service.
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  • Correlation?
    JeremyAugust 4, 2011 8:30 AM
    There seems to be a lack of correlation between what the renderings are showing and what you list as spaces included. The renderings show a vibrant, fully developed area. However, the spaces listed, YMCA, Hotel, Retail and Residences don't seem to be enough to fill the space that the renderings show.
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    • First Rendering
      JeremyAugust 4, 2011 8:35 AM
      This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the first rendering looks like someone took Crate & Barrel and the new Convention Center entrance and smashed them together.
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    • not bad
      JoePAugust 4, 2011 11:29 AM
      I like what I see. Like everyone else, I hope they reconsider going back to "North of South"...Cityway is just not very good. I know they paid someone for this branding process, but that's sunk cost, it was a mistake, so just change it back.
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    • Change it back?
      PaulAugust 4, 2011 12:34 PM
      But to change the name back would require that they admit that it was a mistake and that they wasted a bunch of money (for which taxpayers are on the hook). These people don't admit mistakes. Do these people even make mistakes? Who said that?
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    • Green Space
      SamAugust 4, 2011 12:35 PM
      I love love love the middle picture with the green space. More please.
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    • Nice Renderings, Lousy Name
      SunnyAugust 4, 2011 1:14 PM
      My title says it all.
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    • Liked NORTH OF SOUTH better
      LisaAugust 4, 2011 1:39 PM
      I concur with others, North of South was a unique name and had a good "ring" to it. Any community could use CityWay. As someone else stated, CityWay could sound like a government project to anyone who has not heard the explantion of its origin.
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    • Need a Trader Joe's
      dbAugust 4, 2011 1:54 PM
      I, too, like the name North of South better. Powers that be, whom ever you are, please pursue a Trader Joe's for the space.
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    • Agreed
      JimAugust 4, 2011 2:34 PM
      I totally agree with what's being said about the name. "North of South" had a much better, catchy urban ring to it. Please change it back. Also, I notice top photo shows a "Il Fornaio" restaurant. If that comes into being, that will be a great addition to the Indy dining scene.
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    • With a name like CityWay...
      CPMAugust 4, 2011 2:39 PM
      there surely has to be a Shrimp Hut, a Fashion Bug, and Motel 6 as part of this complex, right?
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    • North Of South
      CreamCrimsonAugust 4, 2011 3:09 PM
      Agreed... North of South was a far better name. The overall concept is a good one. Gives Indy some Urban Expansion. Hopefully it will pull some focus to the Market Square Redevelopment which has stalled out.
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    • designer/sales
      patAugust 4, 2011 3:36 PM
      the condos and apartments and retail make up the rest.
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    • design/sales
      patAugust 4, 2011 3:39 PM
      11 bldgs. total I too liked North of South better. Catchy.
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    • Highway/Cityway/Anyway
      South of South dwellerAugust 4, 2011 3:50 PM
      I, too, like North of South much better. It said alot and was site-specific. Judging by the renderings, it is a very popular place -- look at all those people!
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    • would it take to change
      how many more?August 4, 2011 4:26 PM
      How many more people would it take for it to be an overwhelming majority that wants the name changed back to "North of South"?
      Cory Schouten - please send these comments to people that won't admit to their mistake for consideration.
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    • One more...
      brguyAugust 4, 2011 5:31 PM
      vote for the original name. It's much more unique, edgy, urbane. CityWay is bland and really says nothing.
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    • 1 more
      JoeAugust 5, 2011 8:32 AM
      I will toss my hat in the ring for the old name as well.
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    • Chain ready
      PaulAugust 5, 2011 11:18 AM
      Maybe the advantage of CityWay is that it can be reused at other developments. Maybe after this, Buckingham will build something out on East Washington and call it CityWay East, without the need to pay six figures to a branding consultant.
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    • Joke
      DustinAugust 5, 2011 11:26 AM
      What doesn't phase me anymore these days is how the mentality of Indy just continues to be a bore and a name like "CityWay" is just pathetic.
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    • What way?
      keithAugust 5, 2011 11:47 AM
      City Way???? Hmmmmm.... thought I heard a voice say AYR - WAY ..... For those over 45 who remember this name. Orignal North of South name has a better brand for me.
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    • Name
      indymoonAugust 5, 2011 1:56 PM
      A lot new buildings have that overhang at the top similar to the new Convention Center entrance at Georgia St and Capital. However, this one makes real use of it with what appears to be an outdoor mezzanine under it, which is cool.

      Prefer North of South although open to West of East. perhaps not.
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    • Careful.....
      JoeAugust 5, 2011 2:18 PM
      This preliminary rendering is just that, preliminary. It is meant to sell an idea so I charge you guys to hold them to a higher standard. If we are fronting the loan, then it better darn well be awesome!
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    • Name game
      Innocent BystanderAugust 5, 2011 3:09 PM
      I am excited for this project, but it seems I am in the minority regarding the name. I thought "North of South" was a stupid name. Don't like "CityWay" any better, though.
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    • Constructive Comments
      DaveAugust 5, 2011 10:04 PM
      I'd much rather hear constructive discussion about the overall planning and how this fits into the fabric of downtown or how this creates a new neighborhood. The name is unimportant and the renderings are simply to generate excitement.
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    • Please, change CityWay
      CityWay Name Is BADAugust 7, 2011 8:56 AM
      After days of further reflection and passing this site in Downtown again, it is so disappointing to think it will have such a bad name.
      Reverse it. Choose "Midyard". Choose "North of South".

      Mr. Mayor, fix this please.
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    • really?
      MicahAugust 7, 2011 11:54 PM
      Why don't we call it what it is: LILLY NORTH. This is the defining character of our new downtown 'neighborhood'. This will be developed into a corporate feeling island...for Lilly. Please people, another unnatural development for Indianapolis. The density is fine, let's just not think of this as a neighborhood. Sorry
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    • Priorities
      NickAugust 8, 2011 7:56 AM
      This retail development would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

      Lilly (i.e. Former Mayor Bart Peterson) talked his opponent Mayor Ballard into having taxpayers fund 100% of a retail development that private banks wouldn't touch.

      The anchor tenants are listed as a boutique hotel and YMCA. Yet, recent comments from developers push the YMCA construction way out into the future, i.e. it may not materialize. The retail stores and apartments are not pre-leased and are facing stiff competition from empty space elsewhere downtown including Circle Center Mall and other apartments in the mile square.

      Yet our Mayor chooses to forges ahead into this mess ignoring the experts thinking government knows best.

      This will not end well.
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    • taxPayer TeRRace
      BLOGjevichAugust 8, 2011 2:21 PM
      That's a better name.

      Gee, I do hope there will be an Applebee's, Chili's and Pier One to give it that distinctively Indy feel
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    • Like the drawings
      BMAugust 9, 2011 10:49 AM
      ...dislike the name. Preferred North of South better
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    • Georgia On My Mind
      KentAugust 9, 2011 10:55 AM
      Let's give them a way out of admitting mistakes and rename it 'Georgia Street'....that way IDI doesn't have to admit their mistake.
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    • Look across the street!
      BobAugust 10, 2011 10:13 AM
      With all the rendering and the construction that will happen for this Northeast corner what are we to expect to see on the westside of Delaware Street? Right now there's an elevated railroad track, a parking lot, and a towing company that looks like a junk yard. I really hope their going to do something with the westside of Delaware; otherwise who wants an apartment or hotel room looking at that out their window. I'm also in for changing the name back. Cityway sounds cheap!
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    • on to something?
      PaulAugust 11, 2011 11:23 AM
      You don't think that could have anything to do with why no private lenders would finance this project, do you?
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    • Hmmm...
      BobAugust 11, 2011 2:42 PM
      Interesting thought!
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    • I LIKE THE NAME
      Adam C.October 17, 2011 2:29 PM
      I'm not sure what the big fuss is about the name... What exactly does North of South represent? An area that's North of the Southern Part of the City? A block of development that's North of South Street? I know the latter of the two is essentially why the project was named the way it was but do we really want an amazing project for Indianapolis to have a name that's based on its geographic location? I personally don't think so. If so, let's just call it West of East Street.

      CityWay represents a new way of living in downtown Indianapolis. Not only with this project bring in new business for the City, it will offer residents the opportunity to live in a community where not much is needed outside of the area's development area. It's the "CityWay of Life" so to speak. Again, I do believe changing the name branded the project in a way that represents what the finished product will provide to the city/community.

      Just my two cents.
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    • Discovery Center
      JoeJanuary 27, 2012 3:40 PM
      Head on over the the Discovery Center - you'll see an amazing interactive touch application that will tell more of the story.
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