Fun with renderings: New Hoosier Park OTB facility

November 8, 2011
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Winners Circle by Hoosier Park IndianapolisHoosier Park Racing & Casino's Winners Circle by Hoosier Park Indianapolisnew Winners Circle Pub, Grille & OTB is taking shape in a $3 million renovation at 20 N. Pennsylvania St. Winners
                              Circle by Hoosier Park IndianapolisThe space on the first floor of a parking garage had been vacant since Italian restaurant Vito's on Penn closed in late 2010. Prior to Vito's, the space served as home to The Cozy. The  restaurant, bar and off-track betting facility is on schedule to open by mid-December, said Hoosier Park spokesman Grant Scharton. The off-track betting facility is moving from the first floor of the Embassy Suites hotel at Washington and Illinois streets, where it had operated since 1995. Its replacement: an Indianapolis Colts-themed restaurant and bar. The Winners Circle interior was designed by Rowland Design, and the architect is Ratio. (Click on each image for a larger version.)

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  • well...
    ...I hate this type of rendering. It's next to impossible to judge anything about the space because the illustrator wanted to "get all artsy up in here!!!".

    I guess it looks nice? I can't tell...
  • Smoking?
    Will it be a smoke free establishment, at least the dining area? If not, I won't be there. Thanks, Mayor Ballard for nothing!
    • Vote for Kennedy!
      Well, Jim, hope you voted for Melina!
    • Haze
      Ok so where is the cigarette smoke and brown walls?
    • hey!
      I'm not a smoker but here's my thought on the sentiment being expressed in this thread so far (and who the heck knows why): if you don't smoke, don't go. And keep your mouth closed about it unless you are paying for it.
      Geez, when did it become the role of government to tell everyone how to run their business. If the government is so hell bent on "protecting everyone's health" by banning smoking everywhere, why don't they just ban cigarettes and the companies that manufacture them. Oh, that's right.... they want the money.
    • No way
      There is no way this would be smoke free. As we all know, the casinos swear they'd close if smoking wasn't allowed. This will be as smoky as the other OTB - and I couldn't be in there for more than 30 min without the smoke just forcing me to leave. Perhaps they'll really ventilate it, but why, their customer base is primarily adults that smoke. Too bad and I'm sure we'll hear it during the SuperBowl run up time, all the complaints from those out of towners, etc. It will be brutal and politicians will all have to explain why we can't prohibit smoking in non private facilities
    • Better Have Smoking
      Will it have smoking areas in the new facility? If not, I won't be there.
    • devil's advocate
      Being a woman and seeing this facility, I must say, it is very nice. The restaurant is very upscale and highlights horses in a new light. The artwork of horses and horseracing is unique, very modern. The restaurant is non smoking as well as half of the OTB side which is separate from the restaurant, but accessible via doorway. The facility has a state of the art ventilation system that helps with the few that choose to smoke on smoking side. I didn't notice it the whole night and it was packed full. The food is delish. All food freshly prepared, no frozen foods here. I have food allergies and they even can modify a dish if needed. So check it out! I had a great time.

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