Historic Old Northside church could be yours for $2.9M

February 13, 2012
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                              Church Building at 12th and DelawareA majestic church building at the corner of 12th and Delaware streets is up for sale for the first time in more than 30 years. The 34,000-square-foot neoclassical building includes a 1,200-seat auditorium renovated in 1995. The limestone structure has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912. The Jehovah's Witnesses have owned it since 1978, but the church needs more room and plans to move elsewhere once it sells. The building's list price: $2.895 million. Summit Realty Group brokers Rich Forslund and Matt Langfeldt are marketing the property to potential users including another church, an educational or nonprofit organization, or an arts group. The building at 1201 N. Delaware St. sits across from the President Benjamin Harrison Home and blocks away from the Indiana Landmarks Center in the Old Northside neighborhood. "Potential buyers who have seen it have been blown away by its immaculate condition and overall character," Forslund said in a statement. "It really is a vital and unique piece of real estate." Among its impressive features is an open-loop geothermal system that uses groundwater for hearing and cooling, Forslund said. The building sits on 1.8 acres, and the property also includes a vacant roughly one-acre lot along Alabama Street. More photos are here.

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  • if only
    If only i had the funds, really this is a steal. A little renovation and it would be a great luxury home. within walking distance of anything.
    Redevelopment is the future -urban sprawl is the killer.
  • No parking on Alabama
    The lots on Alabama Street are not parking. The lots are zoned D-8, and are currently mowed lawn. I am sure any suggestion to make these parking lots would meet with stiff opposition from the neighbors.

    The church currently uses the lots under the Interstate for Saturday and Sunday Parking, as well as street parking.

  • Always Growing
    Jim: You're forgetting about the billions who have the EARTHLY hope, not the heavenly one.
  • yeah, a house
    Really Chris? A 33,000 square-foot house? Sure. Go for it. Maybe like 30-60 apts/condos, but it would be nice to keep the building intact. I wonder if the IHPC would allow it to be carved up inside.

    Cory, isn't it "Jehovah"?
  • Correction
    Thanks Paul, yes it should be Jehovah's. Fixed.
  • History?
    Does anyone know the older history of this building?
  • IHPC
    Paul - Always a good idea to check with IHPC staff first, but generally they have no interest or say in interiors. I wonder how much work might be needed for accessibility and ramps.
  • Best Use
    I can't see a new church moving into the space, but there are plenty of proper uses out there. Not everything needs to be carved up into apartments. There are plenty of historic apartment buildings out there ripe for renovation. How about a museum, a Magnet High School, an Event Center, or a facility that could be used in conjunction with Herron High School or the Harrison Center?
  • cornerstone
    This building has a curious feature that no one's been able to explain to me. The cornerstone is written in Hebrew and the date is inscribed C.E.(common era) 1912, not A.D. (anno domini).
    All of which suggests its use as a synagogue at one time, except for the fact that Jewish congregations - quite understandably - never move into former churches.
    Does anyone know about the cornerstone and its history?
  • re: cornerstone
    @mmdindy, 1201 N. Delaware has been a continuous place of worship for Jehovah's Witness congregations since it was built in 1912. Jehovah's Witnesses utilize the Hebrew scriptures much more than most other Christian groups, which explains the use of Hebrew in the cornerstone. Additionally, Jehovah's Witnesses use Before Common Era (BCE) and Common Era (CE) for dates, rather than the traditional Christian BC/AD.
    • Cornerstone
      One more update: The Hebrew in the cornerstone is the Tetragrammatron, the name of the God of Israel--in English, Jehovah.
      • Makes sense ... but
        Seth,
        Thanks for the info. I'm still confused, though, because the information I have says it was built in 1912 for the Second Church of Christ Scientists, which occupied the space until 1968.
        Is it possible the Jehovah's Witness congregation replaced or changed the original cornerstone?

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      1. City-County Councilor Angela Mansfield and Bob Lutz have a case of wishful thinking.

        They obviously don't really care about the cost.

        They should.

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        "IMS's George Honored: Tony George, Indianapolis Motor Speedway president and chief executive officer, received the inaugural Pioneering and Innovation Award at the Autosport Awards Dec. 5 in London for his leadership in the development of the Steel and Foam Energy Reduction (SAFER) Barrier. George received the award at the annual gala at the Grosvenor House on behalf of the creators of the SAFER Barrier from Prince Salman Bin Hamad Al Khalifa, the leader of the Bahrain International Grand Prix circuit. This is the fourth major award that has been presented to honor George and the SAFER Barrier development team. The SAFER Barrier also received the Louis Schwitzer Award, SEMA Motorsports Engineering Award and GM Racing Pioneer Award in 2002. The SAFER Barrier was installed in all four turns of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway a pioneer in safety for drivers, cars and tracks -- in time for the 86th Indianapolis 500 in 2002. It since has been installed at more than a dozen other tracks, and the latest iteration will be installed at the Speedway in the spring.(IMS PR), see more on my Indy Track News page.(12-7-2004)"

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      3. Great article Anthony. Glad IMS is finally being run like a business and not a personal check book to finance the "Vision".

        Things are looking up but 15 years of scorched earth won't be fixed overnight. Unfortunately the TV ratings are still poor and that won't change anytime soon with the brilliant 10 year contract signed under the former regime.

      4. Brett not sure why you wonder what he said in his quote. "''I would like to jump in a time machine, go back to 1995, and tell the owners and Tony George not to split,'' Franchitti said. ''As soon as my time machine is done, I know where I'm going.''"

        Pretty clear, he would love to go back and tell TG and the team owners not to split.

        I am not sure there is anyone who wanted the split, and I don't think there is anyone who would not like to go back and prevent the split. But, as has been discussed ad nauseum, without the split carts management by team owners would have run all of ow racing into bankruptcy. If cart had such a wonderful product, then losing IMS would not have forced it into bankruptcy. If NASCAR lost Daytona or Charlotte, it would not fail like cart did.

        Truth,

        So you predicted that cart would go into bankruptcy and cease to exist while Indycar would continue on? I missed that prediction.

      5. I want to live in a city that has a garage structure to be proud of for it's innovating design!

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