Retro Dunkin rendering

April 3, 2008
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The new Dunkin Donuts at Washington and Pennsylvania streets (reported here in November) likely will have a retro look that incorporates the old Roselyn Bakery sign. Plans call for neon signs and a stainless steel facade. What do you think?Dunkin Donuts
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  • Anything looks better than what it looks like now. This corner is so drab and blighted. The west side of downtown looks nice so it is time to fix up the east side.
  • Fantastic. Love the stainless steel to give it a proper diner look.
  • I have to agree with the above post. But, do i wHISH they would get rid fo the ole Roselyn Bakery sign. Why pay homage to a company that for years gave us pastry with rat droppings and a bad sign.

    Nice use of the space...jut get over the nostalgia about the sign.
  • Too. Much. Pink. And Day-Glo. Orange. Eyes Hurt. Must shield. them. Must. Get. Away. Must Close. Eyes. Very. Tacky. Can't see. Anymore.

    Noooooooooooooo...
  • not using the old Roselyn Bakery sign would be crime!

    With the high number of stores they plan to open hopefully DD will decide to serve some of the communities in Indianapolis. They could really be a starbucks type business in a sense that they could really bring some life and be an anchor for other businesses on small commercial corners in some of the older neighborhoods.
  • I love it! That area of DT could use some color.

    They will never get rid of that sign structure as pole/pylon signs are prohibited in the CBD. Therefore, this is grandfathered and will be reused for eternity, or until the entire site is redeveloped.
  • I agree with CoryW... I love it! What a great retro look. It will bring some vibrancy to that corner. When will it open? Roselyn Bakery was great in it's day... it's a shame that now all people tend to remember is the unfortunate incident that brought the company down.
  • The retro sign is pretty cool. It lends some much needed character to the city.
  • Very cool. I think more retro looks should be used. Indy could be the retro or the throwback city. With our historic treasures and new ones built with a hint of yester-year. Ok I probably don't know what I am talking about, but this design is cool.
  • Dangit. No revolving donut! I guess this is the next best thing, though. So much better than the old Roselyn signs that have been painted/covered for phone stores and cash-n-go shops.
  • This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kenny Rogers Roaster Chicken moved in next door to Kramer's apartment. I only have one thing to say: BAD CHICKEN!!! It will mess you up! The revolving topper must go.
  • I love it! Does anyone have any info on when it might be opening or how the construction process is going so far?
  • A one-story building in the heart of downtown.

    With a pole sign almost as big as the building facade.

    (sigh)

    Ablerock, at least they didn't use the corporate brown with the day-glo and magenta.
  • Does anyone know if they have announced how many stores are they planning in the local area?
    From what I hear, there is only one franchisee so far, because capitalization rates and fees are so high, with a minimum 5 locations financed individually.
    So I wouldn't get your hopes up about DD going into depressed neighborhoods and sparking regentrification. My guess is they will be looking for highly profitable sites already gentrified, as opposed to everymans corner.
  • I stand corrected, they did go into 38/Shadeland, on the invbound side however. Still would be interesting to see if more than 5 get built.
  • It would be nice to see one on the south side.
  • Ok, so it would be nice if there were a bigger building there. But the building in question already existed, as did the pole sign. There is nothing really holding back redevelopment of that corner in the future if conditions warrant.

    I'll have to see it in person of course to give a proper opinion, but I am, believe it or not, relatively positive on it. I think downtown's sign ordinance is far too restrictive, making even full buildings look vacant due a lack of signage. Something a little more in your face and fun could be a welcome change and sign of life.

    Part of it depends on how retro it really looks. If all those colors are really neon signage, and there is lots of shiny metal, I think it could work well.
  • Very cool. We need more of these.
  • Wow, did you do that rendering with Paint? Simply phenomenal!
  • apparently i'm reaaallly late to the table with this, but just saw this posting about a new cafe being built in fall creek place (courtesy of brad on the fall creek place website):

    The Fall Creek Cafe (a coffee shop and cafe with a Mediterranean flavor) is scheduled to start construction this spring. It will be built by HSM Development on a former gas station site at 2402 North Meridian Street. One of the cafe's owners is Moshreq Sobhy, who works for Citizens Gas on the Meridian Corridor. The site received zoning variances and approvals last month with the support of Fall Creek Place HOA and other neighborhood groups.

    We are excited to have a new locally-owned business neighbor coming to the corridor!

    ***sorry if this had been posted and i just missed it!
  • ryan: That story ran in the Indy Star some time back. (No donuts for Fall Creek Place.)

    Urbanophile: having lived through the 70's once, I just don't like magenta+orange, big pole signs, and neon all together. I realize it's a personal taste thing. I generally agree with you...DD is not really an obstacle to redevelopment any more than the Arby's, Subway, and White Castle on South Street. Everything commercial is for sale for the right price.
  • Just one minor issue that I don't think has been addressed. Their donuts do not taste good. If only it were the Donut Shop from 55th & Keystone opening a downtown location. That would be tasty.
  • This is GREAT. Indy has far too many banal and boring chain joints. It is hard to tell if you are in KC , Detriot, or Stamford. This helps bring back some old fun character. Nothing serious and a break from the boring carbon copies stores along the East Coast. the SIGN is the best part and far better when Panda Express bastardized it.
  • I'm tellin' you guys, this looks like crud. It is not attractive.

    Love the old sign, everything else has got to go. Especially the giant orange band along the bottom.

    Notice how much better the orange and pink look on the black? If that were carried through, it might improve things.

    Retro≠Garish.
  • I like it........I hope someone remodels the building next to it........it looks like trash
  • Oh why the heck not? It's a friggin' donut shop! The design is slightly imaginative, a little playful, and will be something unique to an intersection that will have a boatload of truly exciting new restaurants by this summer.

    Granted, it's Dunkin' Donut, a mediocre product, at best. It seems like there a DD on every corner of Chicago, where they have the pasty, lard butts to show for it. If I had my druthers (and I don't) of empty calories, I'd love to have seen a Longs, Buskens (Cincy) or a truly reincarnated Roselyn's with eclairs, brownies, and sweetheart coffeecakes -- minus, of course, the rat turds.
  • I agree that the colors are less than ideal, but those are DD's corporate colors - there's no chance of a compromise on those, no matter what the design.
  • Hmm...7,988 locations worldwide, 5,769 here in the States. $5.3 Billion in sales. That must a horrible product that no one likes! People, please get off your high-horse and realize that the market only cares about your opinion as much as your consumption is worth. People like chains, they like knowing what to expect wherever they go and knowing that they go always have their favorite item(s). Other people like local restaurants and trying new things out. That's why BOTH of them exist. Why don't you try convincing people that the local restaurants are better than bemoaning the arrival of a chain that people are obviously going to frequent. We could always just put another check cashing place there or another locally-owned bakery with rat-poopberry muffins on the menu.

    Indianapolis has some great local fare, and it has some bad local fare. It also has some solid chains in the area, as well as some awful chains. As tastes in the city center diversify, so will the offerings.(I think the only real weakness in food diversity downtown is the lack of ethnic choices, but that is mostly due to the local palate)
  • According to some people chains is all Indiy has. I personally think those that say that just don't get out enough, but that is for another post. DD is a chain, but I do which the would have trashed the sign.

    As far as sign ordinances in CBD, I too think they are way to restrictive.
    Imagine Union Square in SF without those store top Nike and Apple signs...it really adds to the flavor of the place. It is part of what makes a market, well, a market. Just have some tast doing doing it.
  • They need to have steam coming out of the Coffe Cup on the corner. Also, Dunkin Donuts is planning hoping to have close to 88 ( I think that is the right number( of store locations in the Indianapolis Metro Area).
  • They used to have really good donuts, but I went in to the new one on 86th street and they were not good. One can hope it is just the start-up stutters, but if the quality doesn't change for the better, they might just as well stop building now.....
  • The sign is not a given. They have filed a petition to modify previous commitments that required the removal of the sign after Panda Express terminates occupancy.
  • They shoulda put an IKEA there. Or a Don's Guns.


    Sorry, been away on vacation. :)


    But I DOOOooo like it. That corner is drab like an olive 3 piece vested suit. Gordon Grecko.



    Do you know there is still snow in Colorado?
  • Seriously, it makes me laugh, but I also really like it. It's very retro and with neon lights it could be really fun!
  • Well pink and stainless steel is so cool. That way no one will miss the huge sign.

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