Scholar's Inn Bakehouse closes

January 9, 2009
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                              Inn Broad RippleScholar's Inn Bakehouse has closed its cafe at the corner of College and Broad Ripple avenues. The locally based chain still is operating the Scholar's Inn Restaurant & Lounge along Mass Ave downtown, along with two bakehouse locations, a bed-and-breakfast and a restaurant in Bloomington. The company opted not to renew its lease with building owner Kosene & Kosene after the lease rate went up. Business also had slowed, and parking was scarce. The cafe and deli moved into the space in April 2004.
  • Another thing that killed this place was the prices I ate there twice in the 4 and a half years it was open and it cost nearly $5.00 for a cup of coffee and a bagel.
  • I will miss Scholar's Inn. The food was always great and their bread is fantastic. Guess I'll have to stock up on trips to Bloomington!
  • Good news: The old Canary Cafe is going to reopen as a morroccan restaurant called Saffron Cafe and Flat Top Grill is still going to open an Indianapolis location.
  • Holy crap! This one comes as a shock. Yes it was too pricey for me, but it had a great vibe as a place to hang out and watch people walk by on a snowy day. Sad.

    I hope another cafe-with-food goes in. Though I'm a hardcore Hubbard and Cravens fan myself, the windows of this site - not to mention its gateway location to BR - really demand a third place business be there.
  • Talk about a prime location.. I would hope this gets filled quickly.
  • It would also be nice if Scholar's decided re-locate within broad ripple or downtown somewhere.
  • I completely agree with benjamin. This particular kind of restaurant should do very well in the downtown area. Not on Mass Ave, but perhaps somewhere closer to the circle? HELLO? NORTH WASHINGTON STREET?!?! There's an idea :)
  • What was at this location before it was a Scholars Inn Bakehouse?
  • I tied to eat there a few times, but their hours were very limited (and inaccurate on their Web site).

    I wonder if another bar will open up?
  • Just a note - Spicy Pickle and Tossed, both in Fishers, have closed. I think Tossed's problem was that they specialized in salads, which are kind of a seasonal thing. Spicy Pickle never got off the ground and didn't advertise enough.
  • Tossed was also at the back of a 4 sided strip mall facing away from the was pretty good though. I hope the Spicy Pickle at Castleton is still open.....I love their paninis!
    I'd been to the Bakehouse a few times and loved it.......they had screwy hours though.
  • That's a shame.

    Would love to see them come downtown. East Washington Street beckons!!!!

    Don't buy the line about scarce parking. There is a large lot there behind the Vogue.

    Johnny, my recollection is that there was a rug shop there previously, and a houseworks as well
  • What was Kosene thinking raising rent in this economy?
    They deserve to sit on an empty building for a while.

    That aside, very unfortunate the BakeHouse has closed but would love it if it meant a move to downtown!!!
  • Joe is absolutely right about parking - the lot behind those commercial fronts always has free parking - except during prime bar hours at night.
  • Meanwhile, further down College, the Starbux at College & Fall Creek is closed and boarded.
  • Thanks for the updates on other closings. I may have to put together a post rounding up all of them. Anyone else have examples?
  • Hey Donna... you said, it was too pricey for me, but had a great vibe to sit and watch people... well, if you are an example of anyone that frequented the place, that's why they're closing it down.... you just come in there and sit to people watch, and don't buy anything?... not exactly helping them stay open. Coffee shops can get away with this because they typically have less square footage than this, and don't rely on food as their main business (the coffee)... but, I don't think cafes/delis can get away with that. So, the reasoning, just because it was nice place to sit doesn't pay the bills.

    And on another note, I don't think they were open during the prime bar hours... so, parking shouldn't have been an issue with that huge lot in back.

    But, Kosene may have upped the rent intentionally... even with the economy the way it is... that location is prime real estate, in my opinion. College Ave. is heavily traveled by both people going to Broad Ripple and those not going to Broad Ripple (using College Ave. as an arterial into downtown). So, a lot of people see that storefront at that busy intersection.

    Can I guess as to what will go in there? No. Can I assume that it won't stay empty long? Yes.
  • Devastating. I did breakfast there at least once a weekend as it's within walking distance of my home. I will day, their prices were a bit excessive and recently the place was dirty and the service was chronically bad. No great breakfast place left in the Ripple...
  • Re: # thundermutt Says:
    January 9th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Meanwhile, further down College, the Starbux at College & Fall Creek is closed and boarded.

    Maybe that's because people kept getting shot there?
  • The best food is down at 54th and 52nd Street anyway (Yats, Sams, News Cafe, Taste, Aristocrat and more).
  • IndyBusinessman, when I went to Scholars Inn, I ate a meal. Did you notice I said I'm a Hubbard and Cravens fan? That's where do my relaxing with a cup of coffee. And that I said I hoped a cafe WITH FOOD would go in? Because I feel certain that the rent on that location most likely can't be afforded by a cafe only. But thanks for the lesson in restaurant economics.

    Personally I'm relieved that Starbucks is closed, thundermutt. Hope you weren't a fan of it!
  • Maybe they tried to raise the rent....because they have someone already interested in the a higher rent. It is a prime location, but not one that requires offsite parking. MIght be another Bar.....who knows.
  • Spicy Pickle has closed at Castlton Square also.
  • This is sad, but I won't miss it nor, will my friends I was just there on Sunday morning for breakfast. First time I had been there, they had been before, and we decided not to go back again because of a few reasons.

    They didn't have change for cash for us, and the credit card machine wasn't working. The bathrooms were horrible, the coffee they had in the pots were cold. Our meals took forever. We ordered all at once on one ticket. I got my food 15 minutes before the other three people in my party got theirs. The floors and tables were a mess and we had to clear our own table just to have a clean place to eat.

    The service was lacking and they didn't have enough staff. I hope they can reloacte though as I would hate people to miss out on this place becaus eI know a lot of people genuinely sware by this place. IT left a bad taste in my mouth and probably won't go again. Their Omlett was more like an egg burrito. All the ingredients were just piled in the middle with an egg wrapped around it - not really in omlette IMO.
  • No great breakfast place left in the Ripple…

    Um, have you ever been to Biscuits?

    How much does everyone want to bet another bar will be going in here?
  • Tried to go several times in the evening but they were never open.
  • My bet is Dunkin' Donuts. They've been looking for a spot in BR...
  • With all the stories of closings around town, it's heartening to remember that there are many restaurants and stores around the city just opening their doors. I'm excited to head down to the new Scotty's Brewhouse downtown next week. Between Scotty's and Adobo's new Washington St. location, I might not leave that stretch of downtown for days.
  • Jerry Kosene is in deep financial trubble.
  • Donna, why are you relieved that Starbucks closed? Did it make fun of you in high school?

    I never at at the sexy and intimate bakehouse.
  • The video rental store at 52nd and College is also closing. The clerk was quick to announce that it is because the landlord was raising their rent to $11k/month.

    Everyone is right about the lousy service at Scholar's Inn. Too pricey, margina quality, and slow, slow, slow. I tried it three times and vowed to never go again. They got what they deserved.
  • Cory loves to report with dramatic flare, higher rent and scarce parking? Come on. Ever changing hours which became limited, poor service (20mins for eggs?), poor seating layout (not easy to eat on a couch other than one at home :) ), and over priced makes for a bad combination for survival.

    I'm sad to see this corner empty, but hopefully it won't be for long.

    Da do you know of deep financial troubles? Or is this a rumor?
    As for the Dunkin going at the corner, I don't think they would go at the corner. I would think they would be looking for somewhere with a drive-up window.
  • I love it when people complain about the parking in Broad Ripple. Do they think the parking setup should be the same as the one for their Applebees in Avon?
  • Dunkin would be looking for something on the inbound side with suburban-style parking at the door in addition to a drive-thru. I could imagine that Starbux would consider this corner site an upgrade from the mid-village site.

    I think either would probably prefer the old gas station site across the street, though: inbound, parking, potential for drive-thru. I could also imagine Chase buying the gas station and integrating it with their current drive-thru; their site at the point would be prime for a coffee or deli place.

    Strangely, of all the prime sites in BR Village, this one seems to have longer runs of both tenancy and vacancy. I remember only three tenants in about 20-25 years: Houseworks, rug merchant, SI. But there seem to be long vacancies in between occupancies.
  • exactly
  • In order for a bar to go in there, the Broadripple Village Association would have to give it's blessing before the state would approve the license transfer.
  • The state will, most likely, not approve an alcohol license transfer in the Broad Ripple Village Association protests, and the BRVA is notified of any license transfer requests. So if a bar does go in there, it can't be said that it was a surprise to the neighborhood.
  • Sorry, I meant IF the BRVA protests.
  • Donna why in the world would you be relieved that the Starbucks on Fall Creek
    closed? I for one will miss it. They were the lone business willing to try that
    corner, not to mention people lost their jobs. I never had any trouble there and
    as to the crime, well, unfortunately it can happen anywhere. Now, it's just another
    boarded up business in a section of the city filled with them. Fine if you don't like Starbucks, but jeez, lighten up.

    As to Scholars I have to say I never went in there. I live in SoBro but I don't often
    venture into Broad Ripple proper. It's usually just a hassle. I prefer to hit
    Mass Ave for shopping or some other local breakfast spots on College / 54th / or Keystone on the weekends.
  • As far as large companies go, Starbucks is reported to treat its employees pretty well, and even those who don't like their coffee generally will admit that Starbucks has done much more to create demand for higher quality coffee than it has done damage to the business of independent coffee houses.

    But yeah, even if one generally were not a fan of Starbucks, I can't imagine cheering the closure of that particular shop, given that nothing nice is likely to go in there.
  • Where is our fearless leadwer Ballard in all of this? Oh, I imagine he is busy with his architects planning out ChinaTown and our internationally Famous Cricket fields. :lol: I'm not saying he is expected to solve all these problems, I am just saying he needs to speak up and lead, show us minions some hope for our city. so far? FAIL.

    Kosene is probably not going away, but things are very tight for them right now. The big Q is if he starts to divest, and how much he does. this shouldn;t be much big news if you have been paying attention. I like him, he's a nice guy and has done well, I just am not sure its going to keep going the way you see it now.

    On a side note a buddy who runs several taverns and restaurants across town tells me business is off 40% in BR. They blame some on the newness/sparkle of Brothers, but even morre on the economy.
  • Give Ballard a break. He has to play clean up for the REAL MESS that Bart left us in. Talk about a joke of a mayor. That idiot left all but most of the northside to decay, why do you think he lost against Ballard. Finally the east, west and south sides can actually see their tax dollars being spent on their sides of town with miles of repaved streets new sidewalks, curbs and the likes. Ballard is already in the same position Obama will be in very soon, cleaning up and fixing up years of poor leadership, incompetence, greed and corruption. The city and county didnt fall apart overnight and it will not be fixed overnight. The economy crumbling goes way beyond anything Ballard can really fix, and he probobly has more than enough to worry about than to give a bull crap pep speech to pump sunshine up our butts. We are all adults, and we all made our beds, and its not up to Ballard to make us comfortable in them. And as for business's like this bakehouse, and many, many others they brought it on themselves with poor service and over priced product, the economy is just speeding up the inevitable.
  • how about a Chipotle? Yes please.
  • Anyone notice Pikks Tavern closed in the old Adobo location? That was pretty quick....
  • The dim sum restaurant on Georgetown Road closed last week.
  • It seems that this location never had a solid business plan.

    Poor hours: 7 a.m. - 2 p.m. on a Saturday?

    Changing hours: breakfast/lunch/dinner schedule to a 24 hour schedule, then back to breakfast/lunch only?

    The atmosphere was clean and modern in 2004. Recently the cleanliness had deteriorated.

    Slow service.

    I sincerely hope that a non-chain restaurant (without a bar focus) goes into this location.

    Some had asked what this was previously, if memory serves me, I believe it was a design boutique (focused on home products, not clothes).
  • Gabriel's ( formerly Ed & Marge's in the chamber of commerce building downtown ) closed abruptly two weeks ago.
  • Wow, who declared this pick on Donna day:) I'm sure there will be someone very interested in the Scholars location soon if there isn't already. Too bad about the Starbucks at College and Fall Creek, but I noticed that someone is doing some interior work at the recently closed Starbucks at 16th and Sharon.
  • Crystal...are you referring to Shen Yang? Bummer!
  • Yes CJ It has changed names so much I could not remember. I think they were trying to find a buyer I hope so there are only two places in the whole city for dim sung and I cannot afford Shaghai Lil's
  • Everyone who has lived in BR has witnessed how Kosene and Kosene, with its greediness, has ruined the ambience of the village. Look at their building projects, the hideous zero lot line McTownhomes, and you'll see the direction they are going. They are awful for Broad Ripple. They will probably let some nasty bar move in.
  • Broadripple does not need any more bars. I hope a nice restaurant moves in or even some decent retail. Miyagi's sushi is coming to broadripple this spring, they already have a 96th street location near Naked Tchopstix so these two will battle for sushi supremacy in two locations.
  • White Castle
  • Please, no more national chains!

    Oh, and if you're looking for breakfast, go to Zest on 54th. Nothing better in the city.
  • This kind of stinks. Scholar's has good food, even if it is expensive. I hope we can get an independent restaurant in there that will be open late into the evening. And isn't it sad that Sunflower Market is still sitting vacant more than a year later?

    Dear Owner if you are reading this - PLEASE DO NOT PUT IN ANOTHER BAR!!!
  • It's no secret that the Scholar's Inn on Mass Ave began suffering after the opening of the BR location. The owner spread himself too thin between B-town, Mass Ave and BR. In order to survive in this economy, he had to choose one over the other. The BR location got the axe. Now he can focus his attention on rebuilding the brand and reputation of the Mass Ave locale before it goes under too.
  • I love the Sunflower Market. The company is putting its fourth store here in Tucson. I wonder why it didn't work out in Indy?
  • dons guns?! :eek:
  • BLOGojevich: Check out Three Sisters and/or Biscuits for breakfast and brunch in Broad Ripple proper. Head over to SoBro for Taste, The Aristocrat or Zest.
  • Dustin,

    The Sunflower Market in Indianapolis was a midwestern experiment by a company called Super Value out of Minnesota. All of those store closed.
  • THH I agree with you White Castle would be good at least it has name brand recognization hell at this point I'll even take a Wendy's. (lol)
  • There's a shuttered Marathon station across the street, and a Shell just a block north. Why not put a White Castle in one of those locations?

    They already have the gas tanks. :lol:

  • Crystal, where in BR will Miyagis be moving in? I am soooo excited!
  • I will miss The Bakehouse in BroadRipple
  • Because...that's a chain, Da Hooey. :)
  • Hey Da Hooey I guess it is Ballards fault that Dungy retired too. Everyone wants to blame somebody for everything. Lots of bad ideas were turned into bad shops, restaurants, and companies that shouldnt have been started to begin with. Money used to be too easy to get. They gave it a shot, it didnt work. Every idea cant succeed. Its time for the market and society to correct itself for the mistakes of the easy money
    A down economy isnt all bad.
    But is some peoples eyes everything is Ballards fault.
  • Lauren I think somewhere in that block, I will have to ask the sushi chef at 96th street where again because he told me once and I could not picture the exact location but I will keep you posted.
  • Not sure why all the bashing of Kosene on this thread. They don't own the property they just lease it! Leasing companies are at the mercy of the owners when it comes to placing avalue on space
  • Leave your northside comfort zone and have breakfast at Harold's Steer In, one of the last authentic diners left in the city. 10th and Emerson.
  • Ate at SI Bakehouse once pretty soon after it wasn't worth my time and money.

    Neon Johnny's and the Brazilian Steakhouse up at 86th and Township closed. Very sad...

    Granite City Food and Brewery is slated to open soon...their building is coming along nicely up near 96th and Meridian.
  • Breakfast at 10th & Emerson? Not if I want to be alive for lunch!
  • Wow, Indy. Have you ever actually been inside I-465?
  • Now this completely shoots my day! DAMN IT! I loved this place. Egg sandwich...mmmmm
  • I thought that Harold's Steer In closed a couple of years ago. As for BR breakfast, I'll vote for Just Judy's and the Donut Shoppe. Simple, cheap, and good!
  • Dana - I concur, don't forget the Keystone Deli - delicous fried potatoes... yum. Also cheap and delicious!
  • The venerable Steer-In is alive and well, as are its neighborhood's residents (Community Heights, holla!). Steer-In did close briefly a couple of times in the past few years but each time has been revived very quickly, and with the addition of a beer/wine license and better hours, seems to be doing pretty well right now. Plus it can't be beat for a good old-fashioned, gut-busting meal. They were serving biscuits and gravy before the folks who own Taste were even born.

    All you Broad Ripple folks complaining about high prices would do well to try other neighborhoods in Indy, where the rest of us get more for our dollar.
  • ...and despite popular misinformation, we also live to tell about it.
  • Donut Shop donuts are the best I've ever eaten, though I admit I've not been to Long's.
  • The Donut Shop in my opinion have the very best donuts. Even better than Longs!
  • Needs more jelly.
  • Either Dunkin' Donuts there...or a hair salon. We need another in BR. Would be great if a Trader Joe's went into the old Sunflower spot...
  • A Longs bakery at this location would be awesome!
  • Any type of bakery, pastry or breakfast place would do good there as long as it is actually open in the morning. I come through that way most mornings and the SI would not even be open until 8am most mornings. At least open by 7am.

    Maybe Taylors might be interested to move from Allisonville Road.
    Is Crawfords Bakery still around?
  • Crawfords @ 16th is history, ot sure if they have some sort of bakery around. taylors has a HUGE bakery behind the retail store, not sure they would wanna move or what.

    The SI location sucks for parking. Its OK if you are walking around the village, but as a destination, i'm not sure it works.
  • I though Crawfords was keeping some sort of offsite bakery for wholesale puposes on the northwest side. How is this for irony, the first Crawfords bakery was actually in Lafayette Square. Check Cory's blog on the Macy's closing and you can see them on the list of retailers.
  • I'm disappointed but not surprised that the bakehouse closed. I was a semi-regular for a while, but eventually stopped eating there regularly because: (1) Hubbard and Cravens has better coffee; and (2) biscuits and 3 sisters have better breakfasts. The bakehouse had the best bread in Indy, but it's also available at other locations, such as whole foods.

    I think that Petite Chou was probably the nail in the coffin for the bakehouse, though; both were competing in the upscale-breakfast-out niche, but PC is much better at that niche.

    I hope something interesting goes into that corner, though.
  • I thought Petite Chou was much pricier than SI...nothing like paying $12 for breakfast. Cute restaurant though.
    Anyone know what the new sign A NEW CITY IS COMING which is wrapped around the side of the CSX building across from Conseco Fieldhouse is related to?

    I saw it installed last week, and heard nothing of it since.
  • While we're recommending area places for breakfast...don't forget Just Judy's one block west of Keystone on 54th. Very low prices and pretty good if standard-issue food. You'll think you are at a diner in some small town.
  • i just wanted to be post #90 in this important thread.

    saw where boogie burger in BR is closed for vacation. cool. :lol:
  • Joe: I've been trying to figure that out! No luck so far.
  • Actually Hubbard & Cravens would fit into that spot nicely. Their current location is too small and needs more seating.
  • Where is Hubbard & Cravens currently? I don't recall seeing it.
  • Thanks, Cory!
  • hubbard and cravens is next to the post office on carrollton. its SMALL....
  • So if they were to move there, they would pay much more rent and have less direct access parking. It seems like that would be a risky move for a small coffee shop.

    It seems what would be best for BR would be for a retailer with lots of spare capital to go in that spot (a chain?). Could be food or clothes...doesn't matter. Being empty doesn't do anyone good, and if a good anchor business went in there, it would be good for the whole block.
  • I think if it is to be a retail chain it shoud be something well known.
    Bath & Body would do good there since they closed the one at Keystone Crossing years ago and Glendale does not have one.
  • bath & body is overhyped soap. you can get that crap anywhere.

    I'm thinking don's guns would be a good fit. Maybe Ballard could give em some incentives. :lol:
  • So I'm driving down 52nd at lunch, and notice the Hubbard & Cravens HQ. I never knew that it was a small chain.

    So maybe it would be a good spot for them to open up a flagship store..
  • w000t! I am post 100!

    cory - have we ever had a thread this long before?

    I feel, honored. (Sorry berwickguy) :lol:
  • The Hubbard & Craven store on Carrolton is nice but way too small that's why I suggested that location. Plus they have not oversaturated the city like Starbucks.
  • How about a Vicky's Secret? Broad Ripple would be more than happy to take it & make the Carmel Soccer mom's happy.
  • I'm with you, Crystal. I didn't know that it was a chain, and has more than one store...meaning they might have funding to help absorb the cost of moving to a much higher rent location. I don't see how a small, independant coffee shop would be able to make money moving to that location.
  • Library?
  • Way too small for a library. Plus Glendale is just down the road.
  • I sincerely hope a crap mall store like Bath & Body or god forbid Victoria's Secret doesn't locate in Broad Ripple, ever, let alone at that prominent location.

    Hubbard and Cravens would be my first choice, but I doubt they would take that space for the reasons several of us have listed above. I think the quick in-and-out parking situation they have at Carrolton really serves them during rush hour mornings.
  • An all-night Yat's for the D'n'D crowd?
  • Well, what else works in BR?

    Beer or clothes. Mark that.
  • Don't forget banks.

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