Sinks, brownfields and insurance

March 17, 2008
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New AirportGetting you up to date:

Airport sinks approved
The Indianapolis Airport Authority board has approved an obscure bid package known as "T-31" that provides for the installation of floor-level foot sinks for Muslim taxi drivers at the new Indianapolis airport, IBJ's Chris O'Malley reports in this week's print edition. A new taxi driver waiting facility will include two floor "sinks" in each men's and women's rest room, at a total cost of $1,500. Airport Authority Executive Director John Kish said the funds will come from airline fees, not tax dollars.

Brownfield grants target Indy sites
A former drycleaning shop in Fall Creek Place and a former carburetor factory in Fountain Square are getting federal and state funds to facilitate clean-ups and redevelopment. The drycleaning site at 2460 N. Delaware St. is across the street from Minkis Homes' Douglass Pointe Lofts. That project is slated for $200,000 from the EPA, $40,000 from the state and $10,000 from DMD. The Fountain Square site, now Wheeler Arts Community, is slated for $100,000 from the state.

Progressive plans new facility near 16th and Shadeland
Insurance company Progressive plans to invest $5.25 million into a new regional claims processing center at 1714 Shadeland Ave. The company could get a 3-year tax abatement worth about $200,000 to support the project, which would add 20 new jobs paying an average hourly salary of $23.50. A hearing on the proposal is scheduled for Wednesday.

  • Kudos to the airport authority for installing the sinks. There is a practical need for them despite objections from uninformed and emotional voices.
  • It looks like the Shadeland corridor is trying for a comeback. I hope so a lot of businesses in that area have closed and the area was looking bad.
  • If there was such a practical need for them why weren't they installed years ago? This is just pc pandering.
  • Um, because we weren't building a new airport years ago?
  • And in a pinch they can be used as additional urinals. So will they be offering a full kosher menu at the new food court for our Jewish friends? Eliminating the use of cow-related products for our Hindu neighbors?
  • I agree with Yup. And here's how much respect I have for the religous zealots from afar whose own holy doctrine insists that they pledge themselves to kill us. Deal with what you have here or leave. You've never led a society in history to anything buy fanatacism and chaos murder and mayhem. However as the history of our country has always done, you're welcome, just don't ask for special favors or equality, you don't deserve it!
  • People.......let's try and keep this blog civil. Keep the bigoted comments to yourself. This IS America after all.....everyone should have rights to practice any religion they want......whether you like it or not :) is a beautiful thing!

    Besides.......the sinks were not a liberal cave on the part of the airport.....people were complaining about others washing their feet in sinks, getting water was a sanitary decision.
  • Hey Biased, you might not know this but our Constitution actually provides for EQUAL protection for all regardless of ethnicity and religion. Plus, don't forget how many times us Christians have killed others for our religion. What gets me is that someone would actually have the amount of hate and ignorance to actually write what you did on a blog like this.
  • I have to in part agree with JAK, and then not. The constitution says that there shall be no governmental establishment of religion, and the Bill of Rights guarantees equal PROTECTION to all religions. Protection does not handing over anything that some nut says he needs to practice his religion. It's like free speech and free assembly, you can say anything you want or meet with however many people you like, but not in any newspaper or on any TV station and not on anyone's yard. The thing about this project is, the sinks are being paid out of airline fees, not tax dollars. These people have to wash their feet one way or another, so it might as well be the most sanitary way. Besides if you have an issue, you can boycott the airport.

    Oh and while the last part of your argument is true, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't disparage that sort of behavior when done by anyone. Let's just go ahead and admit that religious debate itself leads itself to violence, and all religions have committed violence, whether it's Jihad, the Inquisition, Roman conquests of Pagan lands, Hindu and Buddhist infighting in India, and even the Japanese involvement in WWII was directly caused by the Japanese people's fanatical belief in their native religion of Shinto and its tenet that the Emperor was a demi-god. Maybe when people decide to use reason to deal with life and the world around us, we can stop killing each other and instead build a prosperous future.
  • I find nothing wrong with adding some amenities to a public space that account for the fact that there are actually other people in the world and this country that don't believe America is the second coming of Christ. This country will never regain it's standing in the world unless we stop being so judeo christian american centric.
  • Maybe we should design restrooms that make it easier for right wing Christian Senator posersso they can find easy sex in an airport restrooms. Wider stalls? Instead of letting people have the legal right to having loving relationship in thier own homes and bedrooms.
  • GBOW I disagree if anything the western world has gone out of its way to be less judeo-christian and look at what's happened to Britain and France the absence of judeo-christian worship and practice which built the modern western life has all but been ignored. Now they have extremist exerting rights that in Islamic countries would have gotten them arrested or censured. They come west and take advantage of our liberal laws to exert themselves, their religion and other items that I won't mention on this family oriented blog. Even though the price of the sinks don't cost much, what else will they be demanding for the cabdrivers, that all women have to wear chador(headscarves) before getting into a cab driven by a muslim.
    All I am saying is Give a mouse a cookie.......
    You know the rest
  • I figured the IBJ blog could have a rational and respectful conversation about this, but clearly racism and bigotry know no boundaries.

    Good work, people.
  • Unbelieveable... Come on people, get with it, this is the 21st century, don't ya think bigotry should be a bit outdated by now? Mark my words, bigotry WILL be the downfall of our glorious society.

    If anything is to grow, people really need to learn to set-aside their differences and give a little here and there. This is especially true in public planning.

    Don't we really want people to have positive outlook upon our fair city instead of coming away thinking wow, those people in indy act like we're pulling out their toenails when we ask for a sink to keep our feet clean!
  • It's great that the airport is installing foot sinks--this is fulfilling a practical need that I wished could be done at my place of work (we end up with water up on the restroom counters from people having to use regular sinks to wash their feet).
  • Isn't opening up to the needs and beliefs of migrants a necesity to be a World Class City. We have people from all over the WORLD living here now. We had better start showing some CLASS soon. It makes me laugh every time someone says Indianapolis is a World Class city. Most people I know in Indianapolis haven't been to another country and are very xenophobic.
  • Most people in the world have never there own country. Certainly talking down to people doesn't make you World Class either, just class-less...let them eat cake LOL New Money?
  • never left I meant thier
  • Ignorance + Bold Statements = Bigot!!!!

    You people!!!! I don't know if I should laugh at you, feel sorry for you, or just be disgusted. You are complaining about the very things that America was built on.

    By the way, how do you type with the White Sheet on any way?
  • Cory, ever think of taking this blog moderated? A huge hassle I'm sure, but the offensive, bigoted comments of late are really bringing it down.
  • DJ: My filter catches profanity and I try to keep pretty close tabs on comments. I also have had to block people, and have dropped some comments from this thread. But for the most part, readers have done a great job moderating, including on this post.
  • eastindie sincere apology. I misread your post. You were not talking down to people...please accept my apology.
  • Several of you have made decent comments regarding tolerance and understanding. As a Christian, that is my (and should be all of our) first calling. While I might think washing of the feet in a public place is uncalled for and aborhant, it is obvious many others don't.

    Keep in mind one point as you piece together this puzzle. You can do all the name calling you want regarding other's interpretations even though you don't like the opinions of the Christian Conservatives and that seems to be ok with you. You say you don't like people with bias, but, at the same time you are quick to throw out such labels as bigot, racist, homophobe, and so forth. Are you truly entitled to throw around such terms when you are offended by the opinions of others? Does that elevate you to a greater understanding?

    Lastly, the greatest problem we in America are facing is the influx of illegals. Never before has our nation allowed the scourge of other civilizations to bring their mayhem here without knowing who they are and enforcing the laws we already have in place. Shame on our do-nothing Congress for not doing their job. We will face the demon of Allah that says death to all non Moslems. That is their pledge if they are to truly believe their religion. How do you propose dealing with that?
  • Yes, I am entitled to call you a bigot, if you lump all the people of a certain religion into one group and say they are bad. I too, consider myself to be a Christian Conservative, but it is the likes of you that have sent certain, well meaning, christians on campaigns to force conversion upon other religions, evening threatening death to them if they did not. How does that make you any better than those that you now condemn. I don't know for a fact that they teach death to all non Muslems, I have read that in the media. I hope that your information comes from more than CNN or Fox News. I have met several Muslems and non, I repeat, non of them have had any notion of killing all non-Muslems. The Christian religion (most anyway), teaches that all that are not baptised will be going to hell. This is not a far off teaching, from what you are saying that the Muslems teach.

    I'm sorry, I still feel that the comments above are bigoted and of an Ayrian nature.
  • The previous post by Biased' is perhaps the most ignorant set of paragraphs I've ever read.
  • welcome Indy Star Forumers...looks like you will ruin this place too!
  • Benjamin,

    Perhaps you should open your eyes to other sources of information and see what is going on. Example, our Federal Government statiioned several thousand National Guard troops on our southern border to help with the influx of illegal entry into the country. This was done to beef up security while the government completed the hiring and training of thousands of border agents. Though that job isn't completed, the troops will be pulled out. Then we end up with another influx of people entering as illegals. We have an immigration policy and laws in place. It is congress's sworn duty to uphold that responsibility and they have failed.

    Secondly, regarding the issue with people being sworn to our eradication, call them extremists if you want, that is the edict of their faith. As individuals, all should be welcome, but in a way that is not a threat to the citizens of the US. California prisons are overwhelmingly full of criminals that came here illegally. This needs to stop.

    Please forgive me if I offended you in some way.

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