Super Bowl disappointment

May 22, 2007
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Word of Indy's Super Bowl defeat spread quickly among Hoosiers attending the International Council of Shopping Centers annual event in Las Vegas. Employees at booths for several real estate companies, including Simon, checked news Web sites all morning for updates. "It's a shame," said Mark Perlstein of Sitehawk. "It could have been a major shot in the arm for the majority of retailers in the city." What do you think?
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  • Not surprising. Lots more money to be made in Big D and that's what talks to NFL owners.

    Hopefully they bid again next year.
  • I knew Indianapolis would not get the bid. Jerry Jones has lots more money to throw around than Jim Irsay. They can't say it was because we are a cold city and their not. I've been in Dallas in February and sometimes it can get very cold. I still believe that know matter how good you are money talks and bull---- walks. Both the NFL and NBA are getting to big for their pants.
  • I think Indianapolis has a lot to be proud of, the Super Bowl is not the end all be all in terms of defining an already wonderful city. Sure, maybe they will bid again, but the reality is - the city put together a first class bid that was hampered by NFL politics. City leaders should now strive to get a college bowl game at Lucas oil stadium - a YEARLY shot in the arm, rather than an NFL controlled weekend without a true Indy feeling.
  • It would've have been a great feather in our cap, but definitely nothing to get down about. I hope city leaders regroup and refocus on more permanent things such as city infrastructure, quality architecture, cultural growth, and crime reduction.
  • The thing I don't understand is why it took four rounds of voting. According to the Star...A location needs 75 percent of the votes to win on the first ballot. If no location gets enough support, the lowest vote-getter will be eliminated, then only a simple majority of votes will be needed. How could neither Dallas nor Indy get a majority in the second or third round of voting? It is also very plausible that the Star just reported the voting procedure incorrectly (that'd be a shocker!)
  • Yep, that'd be incorrect reporting from the good ol' Star. As I understand it, they actually needed 75% of the vote in order to win in the first three rounds of voting, not just the first round. I don't understand why that's necessary when there are only 3 candidates.
  • It's possible that rounds 2 & 3 ended up in a 16-16 tie with a change by one owner to make it 17-15 in the 4th round.

    For the time being, there are no new stadiums on the horizon (at least nothing of the size of Dallas') so it remains to see what the competition looks like for 2012. Try, try, try again!!!
  • Unfortunately New Orleans will likely get the 2012 Super Bowl.
  • If Indy wants to jump start its sports initiative, then it should try to attract the headquarters of major sports leagues.

    Over the years, several of the amateur sports groups attracted in the 1980's have left our state.

    Why not re-energize this effort and think bigger. Certainly having the NCAA headquarters located here has benefited our city. Why not attract the headquarters of a growing international sport like soccer? Why shouldn't the NBA be headquartered in the heartland of basketball country?

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  1. First, the Athenaeum is going to have to get past the hurdle with the Lockerbie residents and the agreement that the parcel would be residential. Second, and in my opinion, this prime piece of property should include parking, PLUS, a black box theater(s), some market rate and affordable artist housing and a plan to renovate and reconfigure the second story theater. I would negotiate to add the DeHaan property surface parking lot into the development mix, place a one story surface parking garage on the DeHaan lot on the street level (for the Dehaan tenants use during the daytime) and add a second story to the garage that would become an addition to the current second story theater and then change the direction of the theater by moving the stage across the alley and on top of the DeHaan lot parking. You can add all the stage elements that are currently missing from the Athenaeum stage to make it more attractive for use by Ballet, Opera and traveling productions. Plus, the theater changes would probably help solve some of the soundproofing issues. Alas,it does not seem to be a part of the strategic plan to conduct a study to determine best use of the property. Seems like the current plan is a quick and easy move that ignores the property best use/potential and any strategic property planning for the effect on future generations.

  2. I recall that MSA's pilings are still in the ground and hard to remove. It’s not likely any proposal will include significant underground construction/parking because of this. Start adding 2 floors of retail, 8 floors of parking and 5-10 floors of possible hotel, and/or 10-20 floors of residential, and you are at 30 floors already with possible expansion of all the uses. But then again I could be wrong.

  3. Accoriding to their website there is no deadline to the Do Not Call list. What is this article referring to??

  4. On what planet are they entitled to this largesse from the stockholders? These people make multi-million dollar salaries: Pay for your own personal travel.

  5. It matters because they're already paid enormously fat salaries: Pay for your own personal travel. Being "taxed on it" isn't a valid excuse--so what? They're still being gifted a raft of luxury perks from somebody else's money on top of an enormous, lavish salary.

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