Take a tour of Glendale

July 13, 2007
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Property Lines recently took a tour of the Glendale Mall construction site and got an update on progress. Glendale DetailCheck out a photo gallery of the tour and the latest rendering here. One of the coolest parts of the tour was seeing how they're working on the Target store on the main level, while the library remains open above. The work also has uncovered parts of the mall's past, including an old Hook's drugstore sign (pictured here). The new Glendale Town Center is on track to open in Spring 2008. After you check out the photo gallery, make sure to come back and talk about what you think.
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  • DavidJuly 13, 2007 12:04 PM
    Are they seriously going to call it Glendale Town Center? What is the deal with developers insisting on naming things Town Centers (or Centres)? It's not in a town, and it's not the center of anything. It's a shopping mall, end of story.
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  • AndreaJuly 13, 2007 12:17 PM
    David, who care's what they call it? It'll have a TARGET and I won't have to travel to Nora or Eagle Creek or Castleton anymore. Hurray!!!
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  • benjamiJuly 13, 2007 12:19 PM
    The built in book cases in my house were pulled from a Hook's drugs.. Now if downtown could just get that target ASAP.
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  • ablerockJuly 13, 2007 12:26 PM
    From the looks of the renderings, it seems they should call it TARGET.
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  • Kevin GJuly 13, 2007 1:28 PM
    Cory:
    Will there be a Starbucks in Ye Olde Glendale Towne Centre?
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  • IvoJuly 13, 2007 1:59 PM
    Will the assessed value be more than Bud Wolf's 933k? Or, will Mrs McKinney's single family home still be worth more according to the assessment?
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  • thundermuttJuly 13, 2007 2:13 PM
    Don't all new Targets have Starbucks?
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  • thundermuttJuly 13, 2007 2:14 PM
    Hmm. My guess is that the assessed valuation of Glendale as a whole will go down since so much building area has been demolished.
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  • LeslieJuly 13, 2007 2:14 PM
    I agree with Andrea! I can't wait to have a Target in the neighborhood! A Starbucks would be nice - the closest one is in front of the Wal-Mart around 71st Street.
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  • BRipJuly 13, 2007 2:53 PM
    Does it really matter what the assessed value will be? They received tax abatements.
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  • RequitusJuly 13, 2007 3:19 PM
    Regardless of what the final name turns out to be, you have to hand it to the developer for investing in an older area - which some mall people find taboo. It says a lot about their view of turning a profit (I'm assuming that they're not losing their shirts) and helping the neighborhood/area.

    The Target will be good for the rebirth of the area (is it too soon to call it a rebirth?) and I'm especially happy about this as it is close to my own home. My only concern is how the parking areas and outlots turn out. A bad parking lot can cause road rage and door dings. A good parking lot will go largely unnoticed, but you just won't get angry on your way in or out. And Glendale has been notorious for having BAD parking areas and poor circulation plans. I hope that a good landscape architect or civil engineer cleans this place up for good. Come on with those 10-ft wide parking spaces and tree islands...
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  • SophiaJuly 13, 2007 6:53 PM
    I really wish they would have attempted to make this project a little more urban...sigh.
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  • JanJuly 13, 2007 8:06 PM
    I am glad they are resurrecting Glendale, but the open mall concept instead of a closed in mall seems to be a step back, given Indy's weather. I wouldn't be surprised if, in 10 years, it will be remodelled to become an innovative covered mall.
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  • ClifftownJuly 16, 2007 7:53 AM
    Hurray for Target! The Overall Site Design for Glendale is far superior to the enclosed mall that once was there. If you look across the country including the seasonal states, you wont see many traditional enclosed malls being built. It sure didn't work for Glendale over the last decade... This project will a GREAT addition/improvement to the Broad Ripple Area where many residents reside...
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  • ryanJuly 16, 2007 11:54 AM
    i agree with sophia! although i am glad to see a change of the current facility...
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  • DanJuly 16, 2007 8:32 PM
    Kite is owed a huge congratulations for its faith in this area of the city. After investing millions not all that long ago, the firm is at it again to better serve the area. While other developers (hint: Simon) flee the older neighborhoods, Kite steps up to the plate. If you build what people want - they will come. Look what happened with Lowes! We finally got something all those folks out it the burbs take for granted...and it was a big success. Come on retailers...recognize that many of us living nearby have the disposable income and are willing to support quality shopping. Hip, hip, hooray for Kite.
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  • Da HooeyJuly 16, 2007 10:54 PM
    Broad Ripple will never die. It's the socail heart of Indy. Looks great so far, and I drive past it daily. Good work! And stop f*******ing whining.
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  • DoggJuly 17, 2007 8:10 AM
    Dan, Simon built Circle Centre Mall at a huge risk. It is now probably the most successful downtown mall in the US. And they have not abandoned Lafayette Square either. I would not be surprised if there is some upgrade or redevelopment to the mall after the Wal*Mart goes in.

    By the way, has everyone forgotten that Target closed at 52nd and Keystone some years ago even though they weren't losing money at the location? So before everyone falls over themselves for Target, let's not forget history.

    Kite stepped up to the plate - but so did the city of Indianapolis. Without city support from the Glendale TIF, the deal never would have happened, and the Kites would have left Glendale for the ages. As a public company, they don't typically take on humanitarian causes...
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  • thundermuttJuly 17, 2007 9:48 AM
    I agree with the comment about Lowes. And it applies to Marsh, Kerasotes, Staples, and Target as well: there is a good market in the area. As long as a store operator realizes that the area is diverse, neither old nor young, neither suburban nor downtown, they'll do fine.

    Until Don Marsh revitalized the corner of 62nd and Keystone, the non-mall Glendale commercial area was down and out. Now that people actually shop there, Kite has a chance with the open-air center.
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  • BarbaraJuly 19, 2007 8:29 AM
    As a homeowner in the Glendale Mall area, I can't wait to see improvements to the bus stops on Rural Street behind the mall! The set up right now is so dangerous!
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  • Da HooeyJuly 19, 2007 5:39 PM
    There were all kinds of TV trucks out there today near the Staples side of the project. Didn;t see anything on local news tho....anyone else?
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  • rush4everJuly 20, 2007 7:43 AM
    Is the name Town Center any worse than naming subdivisions that many of you live in? Lake View because there is a small retention pond? The Woods at the Oaks, because there used to be trees there. Deerwood because there used to be some of them. Trust me, Town Center is a better name then many subs.
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  • John CAugust 9, 2007 9:00 PM
    Dogg, just becuase Target was allegedly profitable at 52nd and Keystone does not mean it was correct to have remained there. The opportunity cost of remaining there was probably too great. Target probably deemed it MORE profitible to use its resourses elsewhere. Of course, it must find the demographics better in the Glendale area, because it would not incur the immense start-up costs of opening a new store unless its expecting very profitable operations.
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