IndyCar drivers want to set up their own advisory committee

August 3, 2010
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IndyCar Series drivers wanting their voices heard on various topics are considering launching a Drivers’ Advisory Group.

The drivers of the open-wheel series have had concerns about some of the tracks on this year’s schedule from a safety standpoint and also the ability to pass. The drivers also feel like an official Drivers’ Advisory Group would help keep their ranks apprised of all the rules and recent rules changes.

The chatter of a drivers’ advisory group heated up at Edmonton. Those discussions are expected to continue this weekend at Mid-Ohio.

Ryan Briscoe is one of the IndyCar pilots driving the discussions about forming a group. Dario Franchitti, Scott Dixon and Tony Kanaan also are likely to play a role if the group is formed. I would also expect to see at least one driver from one of the smaller teams on the committee, though there’s no indication of who that might be. One suggestion that has surfaced is Sarah Fisher.

While the IndyCar Series, and in particular, CEO Randy Bernard solicits driver input on a range of topics, there’s currently no official drivers’ group, and some drivers think it's time that drivers take official—and unified—positions on certain matters.

It’s not clear how a Drivers’ Advisory Group would work with series officials or Bernard’s ICONIC Advisory Committee. Like any groups coming together, I suspect there could be some collaboration and conflict, both of which could potentially make the sport stronger.

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  • Bad idea
    This would allow the driver and owners some backbone to object to stupid boneheaded decisions by Brian Barnhart.

    Bad idea....IMS wants TOTAL CONTROL of the series and drivers. Doing this would change the indentured servitude balance.

    I suggest locking out the drivers who want to be a part of this and allowing IRL SCABs to cross the lockout line. The Speedway needs to keep drivers and owners towing the line...otherwise the past 15 years of money-losing control of AOW will be for NAUGHT.

    What would happen if the drivers boycotted? See what I mean...yep, 1996 all over again.
  • stupid drivers
    The IRL should not allow this. IRL sets the rules and decides which tracks to go to. The drivers/teams have two choices, take it or leave it. There is no room for whiny complainers. There are plenty of others waiting for a chance.
    • Indy Car Drivers Union
      Wake up people America is based on Democracy and these drivers are just saying they want democracy in the work place. It is their lives that are being put on the line every time they pull on to a race track and they want an EQUAL voice that is based on the people involved not the bottom line which is all the car owners, sponsor's and track owners care about in the long run. They should become a real union and affiliate with the AFL-CIO immediately.
    • LOL
      The IRL is the breeding ground for dumb ideas. Why not give this a go?
    • Brack, Renna, Mario
      Timing of this DAG is epic...they're about 5+ years late. LOL
    • Good
      They should call it CART Championship Auto RACERS Team.
      • Private Club
        If I were Randy Bernard, I would encourage the drivers to form such a group. Their input is valuable because they are the ones with their necks most on the line. It would work well provided it did not turn into a fox in the henhouse deal with a bunch of whining cart-centric crybabies. I say give it a go.
      • Hypocrite
        Interesting how your obsessive teenager angst won't let you let go of the CART deal, dead twice for the past 7 years.

        Fascinating that the series you love with all your heart, the IRL, is composed almost entirely of cart-centric crybabies, yet you tolerate it as it's your very own IRL *VISION*.

        What a pyrrhic hypocrite you truely are.
      • Born of Milka
        The sort of are, kinda wannabee, maybe, iffy, drivers that make up the IRL field just wanted to cry to officials enough to get Milka removed immediately. That's what started all this. Really, very club car this series. Very club car. I find it funny.
      • Chief: Wrong Again
        Fiction from Chief: 'Fascinating that the series you love with all your heart, the IRL, is composed almost entirely of cart-centric crybabies, yet you tolerate it as it's your very own IRL VISION.'

        What is fascinating is your continuous spewing of lies. Of the 39 drivers who have taken an Indy Car green flag this season, only 28% have experience racing as part of the boycott. 72% are Indy Car born and bred. So, once again, you are proven factually incorrect.
      • Chiefy
        Yeah Chief, dat's right 72% of duh FIRL came from Indy lights/pro series cause we all know how day grow duh talent. Them Champ car drivers ain't no good just look at dat furrin guy Will Power he sucks and has no chance of being champ as long as Ed Carpenter is around. Just proves what I'd said before when Penske, Andretti and Guhnassi came from duh CART, they won't ever be duh champs cause there weren't no talent in CART. So take dat Chief, this is Duhfender of the FIRL signing off.
      • Indy Cultivation
        Let's do some real analytics....

        Of 39 drivers who have taken an IRL green flag this season:

        2.5% = Number of original IRLers left from "Boycott" era. 1 of 39, Davey Hamilton who has only raced a few times since having legs severely injured in 2001 IRL race.

        0% = Of 6 Indy 500 wins represented in 2010 race, ZERO Indy 500 wins for IRL based drivers/teams. 100% came from CART originated driver, team or combo.

        0% = Of 6 Indy 500 pole wins represented in 2010 race, ZERO were from the IRL Teams/Drivers. 100% came from CART originated teams and drivers.

        84% = of 25 cars racing in recent IRL Edmonton event, 84% (or greater) have team owner origination in CART either as driver or team owner, ALL from boycott period.

        WHEN was the last time an IRL originated driver or team won anything? CART/CCWS OWNS the IRL. Please, ANYONE, get us the percentage of IRL race wins of all the CART/CCWS driver/teams that entered an IRL race. I will GUARANTEE this is an EXTREMELY HIGH percentage.

        IRL sucks and the domination by CART/CCWS drivers and teams is readily apparent.

        How many IRL originated teams are even left in the world anyway. Defenduh?
      • How Could They Have Possibly Died, Twice?
        Hmmm. That's odd. With those kind of numbers it seems odd they would have boycotted the 500 for so many years. And how on earth could they have managed to off themselves, twice, with that kind of perceived massive domination?
      • The IRL's Most Popular Driver
        Hasn't Sarah Fisher taken the green this year? Wasn't she at Indy? She is no "DisneyWorld" boycott, I mean she is ot all Hamilton-like, but she arrived in late '99 and ran regularly by 2000. That's hardocre IRL right there. I mean that is Jeret Schroeder, Jimmy Kite, Johnny Unser-era IRL right there. So I say the number is off. Sarah Fisher is old school IRL. Makes sense to have her on the advisory board. They need input from a diver who can't really race and Milka is unavailable.
      • Draconian Era BACK at SPEEWAY!
        Yup, "dedicated to IRL VISION", IRL team Conquest Racing just hired another gunslinging hotshoe coiled snake from the mid-west!

        Some F3 reject named Euro Dragon (or somesuch) is joining up with his EURO$ this weekend at mid-Ohio.

        DEFENDER LOVES providing an IRL outlet for no talent euro F3000 wankers who averaged 7th in all their former European IRL farmclub races.

        LOOK WHAT'S BECOME of DEFENDAER's IRL! It's become a CART team dominated series full of Euro and South American RIDE BUYERS! And HE LOVES IT!

        Get DRAGON on the DAG IMMEDIATELY! And up to Eldora, PRONTO!
      • CART not really dead
        CART/CCWS is alive and well....the business is dead, but the teams, drivers and owners thrive in the IRL. They've been CHERRYPICKING the 500 and IRL champeenship since tony George sold-out his IRL fanbase for the YEN, ride-buyers, foreign chassis, sealed engine leases, Euro and South American coiled snakes with $$$.

        Them stats I provided tell the TRUE tale of what's happened to INDY and the IRL. They are OWNED, and NO ONE can deny it. So, yeah, "cart-crybabies" will populate the DAG and place-fans will have to swallow it...again. Bwahahhahah!
      • And TOney paid for it
        well his sisters and nieces and nephews paid for it,,,not those CARTisans, they let other people spend their fortunes
      • iman's Racing league
        the last resort of F3 rejects
      • F3
        Which sucks for the F3 rejects because they have chassis and engine options in F3!
      • F3 Downgrade
        The truth is that a move from Italian F3 to racing around with Milka and Jay Howard at Mid-Ohio with a guy like Barnhart in charge of the festivities is a drop off from any F3 series. It is a downgrade.
      • iman's Racing league
        2010 Edmonton Indy: 322,000 US viewers (Source: SportsBusiness Daily's Austin Karp, via email)

        2009 Edmonton Indy? : 402,000 US viewers (Source: SportsBusiness Daily's Austin Karp, via email)

        this year's viewers# was down 25%, if we were to theorize that the household rating was also down 25%, that would suggest that this year's broadcast may have been around a 0.18 US national rating.

      • IRl strret race loosers & reVersus
        Versus reported the first five races of the 2010 season averaged a .5 HH rating and 428,000 viewers, which was up 25 percent and 24 percent, respectively, as compared to the first five races of 2009 (.4 HH and 345,000 viewers).

        How the hell do they get a .5 average out of this?
        Brazil - 0.4
        Barber - 0.4
        LBGP - 0.5
        Texas - 0.3
        Iowa - 0.2

      • Word out of Sonoma Today
        Tix for the Infineon Ride Buyer Parade and SlowMobile Show this summer are going for, well......Free. And there are but a few takers. So the Economy Card will have to stay in the deck. Meanwhile back at the ranch, overnights show a horrid Mid-Ohio number as in people we're surfin' asleeo numbers.
      • I Hope AS was just kidding
        when he wrote this: http://www.ibj.com/the-score/2010/07/15/indycar-chassis-plan-may-lure-multiple-engine-makers/PARAMS/post/21114
      • iman's Racing league
        If Burl keeps posting that type of information, people with a brain will begin to think that nobody gives a damn.
      • Word on the Street
        No one wants to play engine with Honda. IRL taint all over it.
      • ICOLONIC ????
        So what exactly was the the purpose of that heralded ICOLONIC committee?
      • ICOLONIC
        The committee was charged with stalling the process. Frankly, I think the series might just stay with the same crapwagons they drive now.

        The "new" spec crapwagons are just an expensive bandaid on a very ill sport. Deathly ill. Nothing but a revamp of the entire thing can save it now, the IRL squandered everything.
      • Word out of Indy today
        IRL is off the radar....even Anthony ain't got nuthin to write about the hapless IRL. NOTHING, not TV ratings or bad attendance, or road courses champeens or nothing.

        Out of sight, out of mind....of MINOR as in the bush league the IRL is. The AAA baseball team gets more press. Bwahahahahahaha!
      • KY NASCAR
        On another note, with KY getting a NASCAR race, will this affect attendance at the Brickyard? I think there are a few fans that come from KY and may not now because they have their own race. I think you will see a dropoff in attendance next year as well.

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