Pat Knight takes parting shot at IU, not Texas Tech

March 8, 2011
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Those who hoped the ill will flowing from Bob Knight toward Indiana University might be fading were probably disappointed after reading Pat Knight’s quotes following the younger Knight’s firing as Texas Tech’s basketball coach Monday.

In 2009 and 2010, IU athletics director Fred Glass reached out to the elder Knight, even inviting him in September, 2009, to Bloomington as part of the IU Hall of Fame induction ceremony that honored Knight, among others.

Given Pat Knight’s comments, I’d say the Knight family has yet to forgive IU for perceived wrongdoings.

“It’s not an ugly situation,” Pat Knight told reporters Monday of his Texas Tech firing. “I mean, we left on good terms. I’m glad it ended like that, especially after being part of the deal at Indiana. That was tough. But this is different. It’s business.”

So we’re left wondering, if it was a business decision at Texas Tech, what was it at IU? If it wasn’t a business decision, the only alternative is that it was personal. And as we’ve seen in this 10-year-old saga, that which is taken personally is hard to get beyond.

Bob Knight, now an ESPN commentator, refused to talk to reporters Monday.

At least there’s one positive take-away from Pat Knight’s comments Monday. He still has some fond memories from his Bloomington days. That may have more to do with playing for his famous dad than donning the candy-striped pants.

“The two things I’m most proud of that I've done: I went to Indiana and played at Indiana, for my dad,” Pat Knight said. “And I took over for him here.”

It’s not clear where Pat Knight will land, though he still believes he has a coaching future.

“We've lost seven games in the last minute,” said Pat Knight, who was 50-60 at Texas Tech. “I've proven I can coach. I run a clean program, I don’t cheat, my players graduate and we have discipline. So if you don’t want me here, there's going to be someone else that wants me.”

What is clear is this: IU fans still love Bob Knight. My editor was telling me this week that he was taken by how loud the fans still cheer when Bob Knight’s face is shown on the scoreboard during pre-game festivities at Assembly Hall.

My editor made another good point when he wondered aloud how many of Bob Knight’s old adversaries are still in Bloomington. The president is gone. The athletics director is gone. Many other key administrators who presided over the Knight firing are gone.

I’m not here to judge any of those people or their decisions. That’s history.

What’s not history is the cheering masses that still raise their voices to hail the man long known for running a clean program and graduating players. And, of course, winning championships.

Some day, Bob Knight may realize that the force of those fans that still love him is most of what’s remaining at IU. They’re the ones filling the stands at Assembly Hall despite a 3-15 Big Ten finish.

From there, it’s a short leap to conclude that those cheering loyalists are the people hurt the most by Bob Knight’s refusal to associate with Indiana.

 

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  • Bob Knight
    I'm an IU Alum from the early 70's, who has lived in Texas for the past 17 years. I've watched Bob Knight's entire professional career. He won games, he graduated players, he was honest and respected, and he was the absolute favorite of former Indiana Govenor Doc Bowen. It breaks my heart to see what has happened to the IU basketball program since he left. Pat Knight needs a job...any thoughts Hoosiers?
    • :)
      I am an IU alum, now raising a family in Bloomington. We love the Knights here and always will. The college and community are still benefitting from the family's generosity. Bob Knight IS IU basketball and always will be. Regardless of how much he tries to separate himself from Indiana, we will always be true to him and his coaching style. It amazes me to see Pat losing his job while IU continues to struggle so horribly. I think he has proven that he can at least win more than we are right now. Would love to see him in Btown, filling daddy's shoes...although I doubt that will be the case since IU is still paying for a few coaches they had to buy out and has Crean for almost another decade. And why is it still Assembly Hall for cryin' out loud?! Knight Hall sounds pretty perfect. ;)
    • pat knight
      after what pat knight said about Indiana upon his firing? Are You kidding me? i wouldn't hire him to cut my grass after those childish commnents! Its been 10 years pat..MOVE ON SON !
    • get over it
      Bob Knight (or his son) aren't going to come back to IU. Get over it. Are you waiting for Damon Bailey to take the court too? Next we'll be talking about single-class high school basketball again. MOVE ON! It's 2011 not 1986.
      • Shot at people who fired him
        I wouldn't really say that was a shot at the current IU admin, but at at the people who fired him. Pat Knight was actually quoted as saying that he liked Crean and that "it's nice to be able root for your alma mater again." Bob Knight has actually met IU AD Fred Glass over lunch in Indianapolis where they got along well. I just don't think Coach Knight (RMK) is ready to come back to IU yet. And yes Former Hoosier, it is heartbreaking, especially when we're being led by the clappy the clown.
      • wls
        Sure, it's been 10 years and the program still sucks.

        Some of us alumni will always remember, just like Pat. I for one am ashamed of that university being the name bearer for Indiana.
      • AMEN!
        It's time to move on people.
      • I can't believe we are still talking about this
        This is ridiculous! 9/11, two wars and a global economic collapse and *this* is what people in Bloomington are still upset about?
      • Backwards
        While we're at it, let's debate daylight saving time again too. And try to get some more of those good manufacturing jobs. Fear progress, Hoosiers!
      • Knights out everybody
        All you alums who are "ashamed" of IU hoops today need to get over yourselves or go hang with Kent Benson at Purdue games.

        The major problem with Coach Knight at the end of his tenure was his ego had gone unchecked by the IU AD for so long, he really did think he was bigger than IU, the program and the basketball tradition that was in place years before he came.

        The idea of Pat Knight coaching IU is as laughable a concept as any posted on this blog. Yeah, Pat you lost a bunch of close games in the last minutes - so does that qualify you as a good coach, or one who doesn't know what it takes to win the close ones? As for that "Indiana deal being tough" on you, c'mon, you were a bit player in that soap opera. You followed Daddy down to Lubbock, he set up the job for you to follow and you lost a ton of games you could have won. Not very impressive. Pat also neglected to talk about the players who left the team and how his recruiting ability was next to nil.

        Today's very impatient IU fans continually forget Coach Crean inherited a program that had been totally decimated by the the illegal actions of Sampson, the non-coaching of Mike Davis and originally the stubborness of a legendary coach who gave the university no option but to let him go. Sad but true.

        Turn the page, you hanging on to yesteryear IU Fans. While there was a great Knight in our past there's no need for a Knight in our future.

        If you're a true IU fan, you'll embrace what Coach Crean is trying to accomplish and be patient.
      • How is this a parting shot?
        I realize that people like to make up stories where there isn't one and this is another case. I would have expeced more from the IBJ, but I guess I shouldn't. Pat wasn't taking a parting shot at IU, he was simply making a comparison between the situations. It is no secret that when Bob Knight was fired from IU it was a tumultuous situation and it was not amicable by any means. Now, with his departure from Texas Tech, Pat is saying that the situation is not the same and there is no resentment. How is that taking a parting shot at anybody? It is a simple statement of the facts. I realize now that with the section heading "IBJBlog" the journalistic integrity would match that of a blog.
      • Please
        Enough of the Bob Knight worship already. The man was a thug and a bully and it cost him his job. I am so tired of hearing he won 4 national titles so all should be forgiven. ENOUGH! Myles Brand, rest his soul, had enough courage to stand up for student rights and the end the reign of terror that was the Knight era.
        • Adios
          Thought I support him wholeheartedly, Fred Glass needs to stop laying out the welcome mat for Bob Knight and let it die. Indiana University has NO reason to pander to the Knights.

          Both Knights hold grudges, are disgruntled, and spoiled brats - and also appear to have a shared inability to admit when they are failing. Hoosier fans - remember the last 10 years of Knight - it stunk! And giving Pat Knight a scholarship at a D1 program, much less Indiana University, should be offensive to any fan. Dude couldn't cut it even in high school

          I am behind Glass and Crean 110% and behind Indiana basketball, not a couple of overpaid whiney attention-starved brats who are unusually good at overstaying their welcome.
        • Brand for students?
          Brand stood up for student rights?! That's a joke, you clearly were not a student at IU while he was president.
        • Just love
          Love how iu fans say move on, but still talk about five crusty banners. Knight won three of them and I bet a million dollars iu fans couldn't pick McCracken out of a police lineup. Sad what that program has become. Cheaters
          • wow - seriously?
            Both Knights have now shown their immaturity and entitlement mentality in public forums (reapeatedly...). Pat Knight only played at IU because his daddy was the coach and I can't believe Texas Tech hired him becuase his daddy had been coach.... Glad they fired him once they realized he couldn't produce a winning progam!
            • Sad!
              It's the Big 10 and IU finished 11th...kinda says it all doesn't it?
            • Get over it Pat!
              Grow up Pat...we have all moved on....you should too. Your anger will only limit your ability to grow and mature.

            • Say what?
              BK did not invent IU bball.....what rock have you been living under?...or perhaps you are less than an average history student.

              What is it?
            • Knights=Crybabies
              I'm over it. Yes, we know Bob won championships 20-some years ago. Pat, what the Hell did you ever do? Shut up. Build a career on your own merits, not on something your dad did when you were a kid.

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