Check out this early rendering of a proposed replacement for Wishard Hospital. The $754-million project calls for 11 stories
and about 1.2 million square feet of space. It would be built just west of the current hospital, next to the Roudebush VA
Medical Center, as part of a land swap with IU. Hospital officials say renovating the current facility is not practical because
mechanical systems are failing and patient rooms can't accommodate modern equipment. Wishard's facility is spread over 17
buildings, many built before World War II. The new hospital would replace the former home of Larue D. Carter Memorial Hospital.
The old Wishard would be used for an expansion of the IUPUI campus.
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Seems a more that a little strange that we haven't heard the wolf cry of the hospital falling apart until they have an opportunity to tap into stimulous money. They say they won't raise our property taxes to pay for this. But, and a big but it is, whom do they think will pay back the stimulous loan. Guard your wallets carefully these days, folks.
http://www.wishard.edu/394.html
And the link back to the topic on the NewsTalk thread:
http://newstalk.ibj.com/content/?p=372
On second thought, just vote NO in November.
Does anyone have any idea who was involved in the budgeting process? Local firms? Square foot numbers or real budget bidding?
As for the comments about moving the project closer to the street-I think most of us concur that moving it back into the center of the site is a step backward from the type of planning that would be forward thinking for our city.
Having seen other opinions, I, too, agree that having a giant parking lot facing 10th Street is unconscienable. Why in the world would planners come up with such a lame plan? Perhaps they can just attach a parking garage of about 11 stories and round it out to an even billion. Hell, make it 2.
Z. Lander
Thanks for the question, however what I implied was that College Students can get these plans for that amount. The coverage can be kept through age 30. One must enroll while a full time student but doesn't have to stay in school to keep the plan. Link attached:
https://www.studentselect.com/SS/Home/
There are many other options available.
people complain when there are no jobs, they complain when there is construction....
WHAT ELSE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?!?!?!!
When private concerns propose building projects, they have to justify them through acceptable accounting standards focusing on the profit/loss concerns. That is the crux of America's Incentive System.
Unfortunately, it got lost years ago with the Government borrowing and taxing beyond reasonable limits. If this project goes ahead, it will use the stimulous dollars and then provide a future black eye for taxpayers. We shouldn't allow ourselves to be drawn into that sinkhole. Remember Ross Perot's Giant Sucking Sound? Boy, has that grown true today.
And finally...look! There's the Fall Creek Trail's Beurt SerVaas Bridge, right there in the front yard. How about doing something to respect the trail, like a direct crossing and trail extension through the campus to the Michigan & New York bike lanes. This, instead of another parking lot.
On topic though, the design really needs to be improved. I like Thundermutt's idea.
indicating use proximity's and alloted square feet.
There is nothing to critique aesthetically here. Its just a massing diagram.
After years with out health care for the poor, other problems begin to spread into society affecting all of us. Parents who die prematurely from diabetes, coronary disease, and infections leave behind children who are absorbed into foster homes and group homes. This predicts increased incarcerations, violence, and drug abuse. Additionally, not treating tuberculosis, providing flu-shots, and treating infectious diarrhea (Shigella) in children places all at serious health risks. These ARE community diseases that can spread very rapidly in places like schools, at work, and in shopping malls. Wishard prevents these epidemics in Marion county. Without a county hospital treating those with severe mental illness, the number of men and women walking the street with drug problems and a propensity for violence against anyone increases. You do not want to live in a city without a well-functioning county hospital. The best reason to offer good criticism but ultimately to support the institution is all that stuff does not happen because Wishard (and the other hospitals through charitable work) prevent it before it hits your doorstep.
The budgets were developed by Jacobs Engineering. No Indianapolis firms have been involved to date. It should be interesting to see how Mr. Gutwein plans to sell the taxpayers of Indianapolis on spending 3/4 of a billion in tax money with a Pasadena-headquartered firm... What was that you were saying about a giant sucking sound?
...there is this giant sucking sound that is making it hard to hear....
There's always so much distaste thrown at Big Oil and Big Drug, but where is the leadership in the medical community??? One of the posters said he welcomed a state-of-the-art medical facility. Hardly! Looks like more of teh same o, some o to me.
The important thing with the new design is SUSTAINABILITY. The building will be very advanced in design for the time, but most likely built with an eye towards the next 50 years. The hospital as it stands will struggle to meet many needs over the next 10 years. It's an enormous cost upfront but longterm prespective argues this project has benefits on many fronts aside from basic public health (that still being the most important.) Still I would be interested to see where the budget could be trimmed. Some of the cost involves leveling the old Larue Carter Mental Hospital which contains asbestos - reason being why it has sat vacant for so many years.
I don't understand this type of planning. You often end up with the same product you would have had with no planning studies conducted. The same thing happens when civil firms do master planning of sites and neighborhoods. The result looks the same as if there had been no planning stage.
Many local firms ARE involved in the design, management and future construction of this new hopsital. These are much needed jobs and will support our local economy. This new facility will undoubtedly continue to increase the image of our city and the quality of life for those who live in it. Please see this site for alot of really great information which might help explain Wishard's finances, plans and needs.
http://www.wishardfacts.org/examining.php
Please vote yes to keep this project alive in our city.