Wings at last

October 9, 2008
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The new Buffalo Wild Wings is on schedule to open on Oct. 19. They're still waiting on "window boxes" that will feature artwork in the three windows on the left. Otherwise, do you like the new, toned-down look? (IBJ photo/Robin Jerstad)
  • YES!! I LOVE IT! Now for God's sake open the doors already - the season is ticking away.
  • The toned down look is slightly better than before, but the akward stone base and disproportionate windows still does the street no favors. It's as if they went out of the way to make the storefront look tacked on.
  • I've not commented on this before but have been reading this soap opera since it started. I guess I assumed that anything approved would have involved the removal of that stone along the base. This is almost the equivalent of the turquoise aluminum siding that used to cover up the old Sears building (now Marsh-O'Malia's). It's a wart on an otherwise solid building.

    For the record... I'm not some architectural snob who would prefer to keep it vacant and wait 20 years for just the right occupant. While I wish that Indianapolis would finally get away from plastic franchised food outlets, it does provide life to the area. It's the lost opportunity to work with the existing building that gets me. Lack of creativity in favor of branding.
  • Oh crap, here we go again.
  • LOL, Say Anything, that is exactly what I was thinking!
  • Unless you are going to be sitting on the sidewalk facing the restaurant for several ours while eating, let it go Joe!

    Check out the inside, it looks fabulous! There are 10 TVs for every TV, all HD, too.

    I cannot say enough about how we need to embrace what is there and forget about how it looks from the outside. It looks fine, it looks great inside, let's eat!
  • Yes, the stone look is odd and not in keeping with the building. But considering what kind of establishment this is, it could have turned out a whole lot worse. Let's be glad for small successes.
  • PS - does anyone know the status of the Buckingham apartment/slash retail project next to the Monon Trail in Broad Ripple. Just hoping the financial market mess hasn't doomed this much needed development.
  • I for the life of me cannot understand why they don't have outdoor seating like alot of other places downtown. On a nice summer day, I'll be heading to Scottys downtown, so I can enjoy the beautiful streetlife in Indy, not be in some dark dungeon-like interior.
  • Go to Scotty's then... I for one will be in the dark dungeon-like interior... considering it's a little hard to see a game on a television outside. Sitting outside only works well if you don't want to watch any games (football, basketball, baseball, etc) on TV. And I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I think B-Dubs targets the sports fan crowd and not the I just want to sit outside and talk crowd.

    And before anyone brings it up... you can say you don't like their food... but you can't say they don't have good beer. Most B-Dubs that I have been to have a pretty large selection of beer on tap and in the bottle.

    Bring on the B-Dubs!
  • I love BW3s and can't wait till it opens!!
  • Wow, with the economy all dried up, we can keep commenting on this for the next 18 months or so. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I think we need a Scotty's update. Maybe there's something to be critical of there.
  • I await berwickguy's assessment.....


    Ya'll get your smokey lung on, suck on them chicken bones, and vote fer sara! you will only get this one chancer opportunity.
  • Glad to see the City take a stand on this one and demand nothing but top shelf development in our downtown core. Bravo! [/sarcasm]
  • I would NOT favor outdoor seating at this location. This stretch of Washington is already precarious enough for a pedestrian, since some jagoff allowed a curb cut for the surface parking just east of this site... right after the alley's terminus at Washington.
  • Ahh yes...hey paul from the eastside...good point, and not a bad idea! After it opens, and everyone chills on the architectural critique (Although we will still have to weather the full 2 months of critique on the inside design first) we can move onto the good stuff...maybe we can segway over to food critique...a different meal/dish each week! I for one will settle on wings, and various sauces -- pros and cons. Bring on the wings, football and beer...and enjoy...remember, at the very least, the cup is half full here, (As opposed to your stocks).

    NOT DMD thanks for the sarcasm note, we were clueless without it.
  • As much free pub as Corey's giving this place, you wonder if he's part owner. Maybe that's why there are no updates on Scotty's...don't want to give the competition any coverage.
  • Esta, wouldn't that be nice?

    Unfortunately, there isn't much going on in the world of real estate these days. Is there?
  • Esta,
    I was wondering that myself. Although, I see Cory as more of a tapas and red wine type. Media elite and all ;)
  • Wingman- do we really need food critiques for food that is the same in Indy as it would be in Gum Spring, Idaho or Paducah, KY? What's next? Reviewing McDonal's latest McRib iteration?
  • ...not to Poopie on your parade, but relax...that was sarcasm. (jeez)

    NOT DMD, I'm sorry...I see now why there is the need to add: [/sarcasm] to your post....duly noted.
  • I was just messin' with ya a little, wingman. I've been known to spend plenty of time inside BW3's in the past, and, being a downtown resident, I'm sure I'll be there again. Despite the EIFS and stone facade...

    I can say that I would have done a lot of different things with the facade if I were the owner, but, then again, I'm not. And, to be honest, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I know all of the inside information what happened with the permit, and I can understand why there was so much confusion and disagreement. Either way, productive uses on street level downtown in this market is a good, good thing. Congrats to you, my friend.

    That said, I should at least get a free beer and some boneless wings, right?
  • Just yankin' your chain, CS.
  • Wow, there sure are a lot of elitists who read the IBJ. Hope you're never down on your luck and have to deal with a non-designer, non-brand lifestyle...
  • Not sure exactly who you think is elitist, David. I don't exactly see BW3 customers as down on their luck, and I consider drinking fine beer at BW3 the epitome of a designer brand lifestyle.
  • ps. You'll catch me in the locally-owned, non-designer-branded restaurants in Fountain Square long before you'll see me at the plastic fantastic BW3.
  • What are these regional center design guidelines I've been hearing about, and when do they go into effect?
  • VIP grand opening Saturday nite!!!
  • paul, when I went to the City website yesterday, everything was whacked around (again, second time in two weeks) and I couldn't find details.

    I believe the guidelines went into effect some time ago as part of the MDC rules, and on the first of September as part of the zoning ordinance.

    Maybe Cory S. will interview the DMD folks and the head of the Urban Design Oversight Committee soon.
  • Found those guidelines. It's a massive download (25.5MB) available at:
  • I popped in the BW3s after lunch today and have to say it looks very nice. I suppose the dark so I can smoke all day and watch TV sports on my fat azz arguement DOES make some sense. God forbid the citizenry might pry themselves of their rear quarters and actually get some exercise.

    And they watch golf too. Which is such an ironic thing...smokey, dark, fat food, booze.....all the things golf represents?! :eek:
  • Da Hooey,
    Don't be upset just because no one likes you and you have to sit behind a computer to complain about everything on your fat azz. Wait, I forgot, sitting behind a computer and complaining about everything is great exercise.
    Go have a few wings next week and maybe you'll make some friends. Can't make any real friends behind your computer. And if you don't like B-Dubs that much, why were you peaking inside? Anticipating the opening? I think you are. We'll see you there when it opens.
  • B-dubs, nice hate there my friend. :lol:

    Nope, I got no probs with Pete's place, I just don't get the whole cigs and dark cavern watchin sports on TV thingy, like I said. I have, in days past, spent many days like that, until i saw the error of my ways and actually WENT OUTSIDE! :eek:

    I dig their chicken tender salad with Asian Zing and Bleu Cheese dressing. A fine meal that thar be.

    And for the record, I do not sit behind a PC very often at all, in fact I often sit behind a beer. You will catch me at the Opening Saturday night, and Pete is a great guy and I wish him luck.

    Will you be there?

    Cory - do you need an invite?
  • I've visited this B-Dubs twice...
    Food is good, beer is good, service is mediocre to poor. No one cared about the front fascade. Nice inside with tons of HD TVs.

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  2. Uh, no GeorgeP. The project is supposed to bring on 1,000 jobs and those people along with the people that will be living in the new residential will be driving to their jobs. The walkable stuff is a pipe dream. Besides, walkable is defined as having all daily necessities within 1/2 mile. That's not the case here. Never will be.

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  5. The Indy Star announced today the appointment of a new Beverage Reporter! So instead of insightful reports on Indy pro sports and Indiana college teams, you now get to read stories about the 432nd new brewery open or some obscure Hoosier winery winning a county fair blue ribbon. Yep, that's the coverage we Star readers crave. Not.