A couple of restaurant updates today:
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Welcome to Property Lines, Indy's source for neighborhood real estate news. Your host is Scott Olson, IBJ's real estate beat
reporter. Edited by Cory Schouten.
A couple of restaurant updates today:
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See, I told u Indyman and Dipsicle....this 8 days is overkill. It's barely worth a weekend....great job Tony George! Your dream has been fulfilled....he fans want the I r l back. Thats how good it was.....and that sucked.
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I have been in training for a short time now but right off I can see that safety and quality are the number one issues, my experience as of late has been a positive one, the employees along with Jeff the plant manager and the operation supervisor as well as the engineers are a highly motivated group of people, what an asset for the area to have and for company's in need of a quality metal products.
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While I understand the severity of their actions as well as everyones eagerness to hold them responsible for thier lost funds, these gentlemen did know how to make money. Dispite thier poor decisions over the ownership of Fair they had made several wise investments which paid them greatly. This proves they do have the potential to rebuild so they can repay. I do not feel they should live the life of luxuary but given an opportunity could they find ways of repaying the debts? They are doing nothing now but being a burden on tax payers. Just a thought!!!!!
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You guys have some "interesting" comments to say the least. I hope you will call in and share those opinions starting June 1. I'm looking forward to having you on the air.
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I really like the 111 S. Meridian space. I kept hoping a friend would open her bookstore there (with cafe, please). I'll take a restaurant, though. Parking might be problematic for those not living downtown.
I think it looks pretty bad now: too stark, too silver-ey compared to the limestone detailing (will the underside of the decking be painted?) and too high-waisted, i.e. the columns are too spindly for the bulkiness of the balcony platform above. But once the top is filled with tables, chairs, and happy patrons, and hopefully the arcade has some hanging flowers (to help with that high-waisted feeling), plus some street furniture (benches) underneath from where to enjoy the shade on the sidewalk below, I think it could all look welcoming, in a basic urban vitality kinda way.
2) I question the need for a wrap-around balcony, especially when it faces a street as loud and often congested as West/MLK Street(s). What's the angle here? I can't say I have too much interest eating outside when I have to fight traffic to have a conversation.
3) The balcony is absolutely hideous. A little bit of capital-D DESIGN would have cleared this problem up from the beginning.
Anyway you slice it, this is a good thing to happen to that building (minus the addition of the balcony). I hope this restaraunt is as successful as I think it could be.
At this point, I'd say it looks ugly, and I doubt there's really going to be much demand to sit out there, especially on the West side.
Cory, does the City's website just need to be updated? It indicates exterior plans to be submitted later...
Case number 2007APP172
PetitionType APPROVAL
Disposition AP
Final Decision Date 2007-12-20 00:00:00.0
Petitioner Name Walter Wolf & Andi Metzel
Comments Approval for use as an office and restaurant only, at this time. Exterior improvement plan to be submitted.
Staff Recommendation AP
Entry Date 2007-10-31 00:00:00.0
Staff Planner JYORK
MDC Date
APV Type RC
Conditions Y
Zoning I3U RC
HOV Date
HE Date
BZA Date
Exp Date
Address 543 INDIANA AVE
Board N
http://www2.indygov.org/ciips/servlet/DetailedResults?caseNumber=2007APP172&petitionType=APPROVAL
The majority of the seating (at least 2/3rds) is along Indiana, so I wouldn't worry about demand for sitting along West. This gives you a pretty good idea of the Indiana side:
http://tinyurl.com/6rzy5d
I think it looks pretty decent. I don't know if people are basing their opinion on the single picture here or the idea of attaching a balcony to an old building, but I suggest you go see it in person. It's not that bad. My only beef is that the metal isn't painted black. I think a wrought-iron look would have been a lot better.
It's ridiculous to assert that people have no right to critique what they don't have the means to produce.
Is that what you say to someone when they don't like a movie? Why don't you just pony up the funds and make your own film?
or Why don't you just pony up your own funds and start your own restaurant, when they don't like a meal they've been served?
The fact that some here get defensive about bad architecture is astounding. You're defending something that's done poorly! WTF!
-cues rolling stones song-
If all of you are so negative about how things are, then how about you work to change it? You don't have to pony up money to sate your frustrated design aesthetic, but you can go to meetings and complain in a forum that doesn't guarantee your anonymity. Maybe you already do this, I don't know. But there is a process in place where these decisions are made, and believe it or not, I doubt the City is sitting there saying How can we make Indy uglier and annoy people at the Property Lines blog? Frankly, sitting back and complaining about something that as already been lawfully vetted (BW3, regardless) just reflects more on the complainers than it does on the developers. Plus, it's your opinion that it is poor design. Something tells me that the owners of Zing would disagree...is their opinion not valid, too?
I know this isn't truly the case - if it was, I wouldn't have any clients - but it's nice to come here and see that there are people who agree with me.
Design appreciation IS something that can be taught - maybe the posts here will open some eyes and make people think a little harder about their environment and demand more of the space in which they live their lives. Do you really want to just accept the world as is and never even consider alternatives?
I'm very excited about L'Explorateur (the city's best restaurant) moving downtown. While Indy might indeed by Chain City USA, downtown would feature L'Ex, R Bistro, and Elements, all top notch restaurants, with other locally owned stalwarts like Patachou, Scholar's Inn, and Yats to provide additional quality local alternatives.
Twill be interesting to see the L'Ex design. I've yet to see one truly stunning restaurant design in Indianapolis, and with the move from Broad Ripple to downtown, L'Ex will have the right setting to potentially do something absolutely stunning with the decor to match the stunningly great food - if they've got the bankroll to pull it off.
Aren't there other businesses with railings? Buggs Temple?
Indianapolis has to be kinder to independent business people
http://dig-b.blogspot.com/2008/08/photo-zing-gets-backhoed.html
did the person taking the picture realize that the restaurant was adding a brick oven pizza oven?
does anyone realize that builkding was empty for 4 years,
that the city did not get any tax money from that building, that the building's roof was about to collapse?.
1. I don't think backhoes are illegal.
2. I'm the one that took the picture.
3. I did NOT know they were adding a brick pizza oven (good to know).
4. I did know that it was empty for 4 years and I'm damn glad someone is doing such a thorough job rehabbing the building.
5. I did not know that the roof was about to collapse, though I'm betting that's at least a slight exaggeration since they only tore off and raised a small portion of the roof (and the exposed portion didn't even look that bad):
http://tinyurl.com/58cw85
http://tinyurl.com/6499aw