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“Concerns about parking”. Jeez. The best part about the location is that it gets rid of a huge chunk of unnecessary parking, and is right next to the Virginia Street garage + the transit center. We have 74k parking spots Downtown; it’s such poor land use.
A lot of moaning about an essentially dead area of downtown, as if there was any other impetus for development right now.
Agree, no loss on the parking here and it could help connect the rest of downtown the Fountain Square and other growing areas of the city.
Get it built and shut up!!!! And leave!!! We don’t need no losers in the City!!!! Smmfh!! Get out of here if you’re not with progress!! If ALL types!!! Beatit!!!!!!
I’m sad to see Indianapolis get this so wrong. We’ve heard all the promises before — spur new development, create billions of dollars in revenue, bring multitudes of people. It’s just hyperbole, all of it proven not true. Cities rarely profit from building stadiums.
The south side is just as much a dead zone (if not more so) after Lucas Oil was built than before.
It’s also a short term vision. Stadiums last a few decades at best. Real city development lasts decades, if not centuries. Build a place that residents of that immediate area want to live, work and play in – every day. Only then will you create a vibrant, economically vital downtown.
We need Micah to be mayor.
+1
Such a bad location for a stadium. They need to build it where the Indy Eleven stadium was going.
So the team can be cursed for ages and continue to turn a blind eye to the fact that there are city ancestors in that land?? Besides, no MLS team would dare want to be associated with the PR nightmare building on a cemetery will continue to bring.
The grave reinterment issue aside, the biggest problem with the Diamond Chain location is that the Indy Eleven owners could *not* get full financing to construct their stadium. The city already agreed to give them substantial subsidies and they could not close the gap. After it became apparent Indy Eleven could not *pay* for its proposed stadium, the city did the responsible thing and walked away.
If you cannot pay for something, then nothing else matters.
I’m sad to see Indianapolis get this so wrong. We’ve heard all the promises before — spur new development, create billions of dollars in revenue, bring multitudes of people. It’s just hyperbole, all of it proven not true. Cities rarely profit from building stadiums.
The south side is just as much a dead zone (if not more so) after Lucas Oil was built than before.
It’s also a short term vision. Stadiums last a few decades at best. Real city development lasts decades, if not centuries. Build a place that residents of that immediate area want to live, work and play in – every day. Only then will you create a vibrant, economically vital downtown.
Walter makes much more sense than anyone else here!
The MLS regular season has 34 matches. 17 will be played at home.
While this is more that what the Colts play at at home it is still not enough to create a large spin off of other development.
Hopefully the discussions of a larger master plan to incorporate additional uses that will drive traffic will become reality.
Adding residential, retail and Hospitality should improve the chances that additional development beyond the master plan would happen around it.
In fairness to Lucas Oil I don’t think the “mixed use” sports stadium concept who in play almost 20 years ago.
Here is a link to an article about the concept of stadiums being part of a mixed use project. If done properly I think this would be successful.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/dec/06/mixed-use-development-sports-teams-owners-stadiums
The Battery in Atlanta is the gold standard that owners are seeking now, turning an occasionally used venue into a year round entertainment district.
Sad that the city couldn’t get behind a MLS when it was proposed years ago and Indy Eleven created the soccer scene. I still don’t see Indy supporting a MLS team. If I were Keystone/Indy Eleven, I’d be moving a stadium up to Noblesville and share parking with Deer Creek. More land, more opportunity and probably would be welcomed. Plus, no bodies to uncover.
Deer Ceeek is nothing but a future housing development.
But, Ozdemir might find better luck getting sweet, sweet government funding in Hamilton County. That’s why his plans failed in Indianapolis – that, and the MLS apparently made it clear he’d never be an owner.
You may want to search his name in the IBJ archives. Some interesting stuff.
The Eleven already pull almost 10K for what is essentially minor league soccer. There is an appetite for the product and its during a season where there is not competition for entertainment dollars.
It does sound more and more like Indy Eleven should become, for example, Westfield Eleven. We Indy Eleven fans no longer seem welcome in Indy.
I am still curious why only downtown Indy gets sports venues. Amd why only downtowns investors get opportunities to score big, their apartment buildings increase in value?
Other areas of the city like the area of Lafayette Square or the Washington Square could benefit from an infusion of a sports stadium and all its related incomes of restaurants, property values, jobs…
Neighborhoods and residents of Indianapolis would reap the benefits not just property owners/investors around downtown.