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Don’t botch this, DMD.
I agree with Murray’s comment!
Hasn’t this site and building gone thru this development attempt a few times before?
The RFP sure sounds like a pie in the sky while the developer will have his hands tied behind his back.
Kevin… I don’t think so. It’s only just been vacated. You may be thinking of the former fire station at 56th & Illinois.
I don’t think it was this formal, but I think in the early 2000s the City sought proposals for this station, as it was transitioning from a full fledged station with an ambulance (I think) to this “reliever station” status. Nothing much came from that attempt. The Broad Ripple Village Alliance has kept an eye on this property for years. They hoped for a higher end restaurant, but not another bar. Or some classy retail. Or an office, maybe a law firm or such. While this article suggests there are probably no known contaminants, such as lead or asbestos, it also suggests that because of the time of construction, there may be something. I think they know its full of asbestos insulation and lead pipes that will all have to taken out.
Best of luck…it’s in a cool location for the right business. I hope its not demolished in favor of something more modern.
There is absolutely NO asbestos in ANY CURRENT IFD Firehouses, because it was all removed in the past when a station has been updated!!!!
when was this station updated? an addition was added in 1994; I don’t recall the entire building be gutted and updated to remove asbestos and lead pipes.
Too bad the station can’t be taken over by the IMPD to house law enforcement personnel 24/7. It would be a “show of force” in the middle of the business district, and could even include a few cells where trouble-makers can be held pending investigations and further dispositions.
+1
IMPD has a” station” in the parking garage. It has not made a difference. They do not work that kind of schedule (24/7) and their lack of staffing numbers would mean they would have to take resources from some other part of the city.
In a ideal world, yes your suggestions are great, but the reality is much more difficult.
I was in public safety for over 40 years and have a little experience.
The expectation that the police can respond in an instant and prevent anything from happening is fantasy. The reality is that they deal with the aftermath and investigation.
You had better check with ACLU and the courts before putting people in “cells”
Rick L., Holding cells are legal. Law enforcement agencies, jails, and courthouses use them for the short-term, temporary detention of individuals who have been arrested, are awaiting booking, or are pending a court appearance or transfer. Ther rules vary by jurisdiction, but are strictly meant for short stays (from a few hours up to a maximum of 12 to 48 hours before a person must be moved, released, or brought before a judge). As far as the strategy and tactics of modern law enforcement are concerned, perhaps it is time to operate from a “prevent the crime” mentality rather than an “investigate the crime” mindset. Clearly that latter does nothing to make our neighborhoods safer.
Thank you for clarifying that for me. It just seemed a little odd in today’s world.
I would be interested in how “the prevent the crime” as opposed to the after the fact investigation plays out.
Cops on every corner can’t/don’t stop crime. Not their fault, it is what it is.
So to incarcerate someone in a “holding cell”, they have already committed an act worthy of detainment? In other words the deed has already been committed ….and again everything else is reactionary.
Rick L. One simple crime prevention tactic in a busy nightlife area is having a couple of officers walking the area for several hours at a time, rather than singles riding around in cars waiting for incident calls.
There actually are, or WERE cells in the station because it was originally the Broad Ripple Town Hall back in the 1920’s.
Chris B.
I don’t think your plan of “foot patrols” has worked out downtown, as there are numerous reports where officers literally heard or observed shootings in their vicinity while on patrol.
Again, the act has been committed, the officers are reacting or responding.
Rick, downtown has a far larger footprint then does the compact Broad Ripple village (also, I have noticed the cops on duty downtown tends to cluster near the mall and are not spread out). As for “acts already committed,” and therefore foot patrols are futile, that’s not always true. You can stop or interrupt a crime, take a perpetrator into custody, place them in a holding cell, do a search for outstanding warrants, etc., before releasing or transferring them. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
I wish for everyone’s sake that there is an answer to gun violence wherever it may take place be it downtown , broad ripple etc.
There are too many bad actors, mostly unsupervised youth who play out gang fantasies and all of the wringing hands and” we’re not going to stand for this rhetoric” doesn’t do diddly squat!
Quit coddling and making excuses for their actions. Enforcement of curfews must mean something and the police are not your kids babysitters.
WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?
Sorry……why do your teenagers have frickin guns in the first place?
Because there are so many guns in our society that we can’t keep track of them all, Rick. Some of them are going to find their way to people we don’t want to have them, sadly.
Maybe because Indiana law does not permit police officers to question someone they believe, or observe, to be carring a gun to ensure the individual has the right to do so. Pinner vs. Indiana. So its kids with guns and no one can intervene until they pull the trigger.
Sorry, I/we kind of got off track from the original subject.
I only wish for the highest and best use for old 32’s. Maybe a community or arts center or a family friendly center.
After all, how many kids grew up visiting the station? I’m sure many families have fond memories.
It is , and should be a “crown jewel” of the area.