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I would even support a 1% sales tax on groceries if it would help eliminate property taxes.
Dumb idea.
That so regressive as it impacts the poor much more than others. Why would you support other people to go hungry?
Rea supports regressive taxes like this because Republican Boomers are deeply selfish people.
“I’ll happily jack up the cost of living to untenable levels so I can keep a few extra bucks in my pocket.” Rea is the embodiment of the GOP platform, which is “F you, I’ve got mine.”
This is an INSANE proposition. Republicans are going to DESTROY Indiana.
It’s Prescott. He’s right even less than a broken clock.
The same supposedly serious legislator who closed the Union school district in the waning moments of a legislative session with no public comment or notice.
If rural counties want to abolish proper taxes, let them. It will only hasten the end of them.
“What if we told people we were saving them money, but actually would be sucking way more money out of their pocket through new taxes? Simultaneously, we can destroy the capacity of local governments to provide basic services and make them more susceptible to economic shocks, destroying community resilience. Wouldn’t that be great?”
– Indiana GOP
What this does is pushes the burden of government services onto the back of the working people who don’t have the financial ability to own a home. The people least able to handle an increase in sales taxes and the small service businesses would then have to change their structures and be responsible for taxes that they currently don’t have to deal with. Homeowners and business owners have the most to lose when it comes to their properties. And the public services that are paid for with property taxes include police and fire. You want to do something to shift the burden of paying for those services, then stop giving huge tax breaks to companies to lure them here. Lure them here with the promise that their tax dollars will support the community in why they operate, so that their employees have a better quality of life. Just one more trumplican ploy to shift the burden from those who have the most to those who have the least.
Well said
Two ridiculous propositions, IMO.
Let’s add closed primaries to gerrymandering of safe districts to be sure that only the most radical far ends of the political spectrum can get nominated, then almost assuredly elected in the general election. Personally, I’d like to see us figuring out how to make it even possible for centrists to get elected anywhere.
Eliminating the longstanding institution of property taxes will wreak havoc on local governments in addition to burden shifting. I think people need and want at least 90% of the services that their local governments provide. Why put them through the inevitable chaos and uncertainty of a major funding shift? I just don’t believe the system is so radically broken that it should be scrapped.
Two decades of Tea Party and MAGA politics have convinced the Indiana GOP convention that all government spending is waste, fraud, and abuse. They’ve moved ever closer to the the freak libertarian ideal of abolishing government by defunding it.
actually, I don’t care if they go to closed primaries. its a political party, they have constitutional rights to association. But, don’t expect the tax payers to foot the bill to pay for primary elections.
If it produces candidates from the extreme, let it. eventually, the tide will turn and candidates from the middle will regain a footing. Or a third party (the Lincoln Party?) will crop up and draw the middle together.
abolishing property taxes is the Republican Party’s answer to Hamilton County and similar counties having more opportunities than rural counties. Better schools, police, fire departments, EMTs, parks, recreational opportunities. By taking away the revenue source generated by people willing to pay more because they know it makes their homes more valuable, and because they want the best for themselves and their children, the Republican legislature will drive away businesses, and cause high school and especially college graduates to go elsewhere to live.
Study after study support the notion that corporations do not move to places with poor infrastructure and uneducated work forces. Indiana is hell bent on being such a place.
Property tax eliminated at 65 years of age. End the state income tax (like a number of successful states already). ADD a .25% General County Consumer Tax on all purchases (except current food exemptions) These funds would be used at county levels for police, fire, schools etc as counties decided.
A “successful” state like Texas, which as no income tax, actually has a higher overall tax burden for most low to middle-call individuals than California, which has a very broad progressive income tax.
These tax elimination proposals are just a massive shift of the tax burden from the wealthy to the middle and working class.
No. Absolutely no elimination of the property tax. Period.
Terrible idea.
One of the most selfish ideas I’ve ever had to endure
The Boomer generation is the wealthiest to exist. They do not need to live tax free on the backs of younger families.
I agree with AR…and I’m a Boomer in a big house. Someone else was paying property taxes for schools when we were growing up, now it’s on us to keep paying forward. Same with income tax: when I was a kid the top rate was really high, even after the “Kennedy round” tax cuts.
There’s a reason the richest have grown their fortunes at rates well in excess of wage and house price gains of middle and upper middle class people: they keep pushing tax burdens down the income ladder.
what is magical about age 65. Retirement age for SS is now about 68, and many older folks, like myself, are still working years later. I bet when the old folks, and even younger folks, figure out their net worth, they use the value of their homes. But they don’t want to be taxed for those increases.
So, a possibly better solution. After you live in a home for 15 years or so (so we don’t give advantage to the house flippers) your property tax payments are frozen. Payments, not assessments. The difference is recorded, and becomes a lien against the home’s sale. So, if your tax deferments produced a savings of $200,000 over the years, there is a lien on the sale of $200,000. Government lien gets paid first before any other money is distributed. So you get to claim the increased value of your home over the years, but you owe the deferred taxes upon its sale, presumably later in life as you move away or downsize.
Consumer taxes are bad ideas. They tax consumption, at flat rates. So they impact the lower levels of income more than upper levels as a percentage of consumer income. And in theory, any time you add a tax to the price of a good or service, you diminish the demand because of the higher prices.
I appreciate this perspective, Chris B. I know you and I disagree on plenty, but it’s clear you are a reasonable person with good intentions, and I’ll try to be more mindful of that in the future. We need Boomers like you to speak truth to power from this perspective
Degenerate party.
For those over 65:
-> Ineligible for homestead property tax deduction. (Effectively doubling property taxes.)
-> No state income tax on capital gains.
-> If living on modest fixed income, entitled to state rent control subsidies until death.
I think it would be immoral to double grandma’s property taxes on the house she’s lived in for 40 or 50 years when her Social Security check is only $1-2,000 per month.
It seems these politicians need a civics lesson. I personally like many of the benefits my property taxes pay for, like police, fire, schools, public health, and libraries.
In case most voters don’t realize this, what has happened is businesses, that have much deeper pockets (for making “political” contributions), have bought lawmakers and are selling them the idea that taxes on businesses are evil and if they had more money in their pockets, that profits will “trickle down” to us peons. Since the idea was sold by Reagan, it hasn’t worked. Fool me once shame on you, fool me 40 or 50 times then I’m just stupid!!
^^^All this.