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To comply with the statewide smoking ban that begins July 1, there's more for businesses to do than stop patrons and employees from smoking indoors. The same law compels businesses to post an array of signs that announce the ban.

The quaintly simple "NO SMOKING" signs of olden times won't do. The state ban spells out different signs to post at entrances and indoors, and still different signs for restaurants.

Complying can be more complicated in places that have existing smoking bans.

The welter of overlapping laws has Amanda Fall, the executive director of Tobacco Free in Allen County in northeast Indiana scrambling to get the word to local businesses and to print up signs to distribute.

She said she didn't realize what a big job getting the word out would turn out to be.

"I hate that the state didn't get this out to us until 10 days, now nine days, to go," she said Thursday, the day after she participated in a training session with representatives of the state's Alcohol and Tobacco Commission.

However, the statewide ban does cut businesses slack in one respect: There are no requirements governing the size of the signs or the size or form of lettering used on them. The Alcohol and Tobacco website includes printable examples of smoking-ban signs that meet the law's requirements. In a bind, a restaurant owner worried about complying with the law apparently could scratch out the required messages with a marker on sheets of notebook paper, tape them to walls or doors and stay legal after July 1.

Here are key points to keep in mind for staying sign-legal when the smoking ban takes effect.

— The statewide law does not supersede local smoking bans, as long as they are more restrictive than the state ban. (Nothing in the law bars local governments from enacting more restrictive bans, either.)

— Where state law and local law call for different restrictions, the more restrictive requirement is the law to abide by.

— The law requires most public places, work places and restaurants to prohibit smoking. At each public entrance to a work place or a public place, a sign saying that smoking is prohibited must be posted. Restaurants have to post signs at each entrance saying "Smoking is Prohibited in This Restaurant" or something similar.

— Every establishment in which smoking is prohibited must post two or more signs inside saying "Smoking is Prohibited by State Law" or something similar.

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  • smoking
    I don't care what anyone says. We are all Americans and we all have the same rights. No one should tell me I can not smoke. I don't tell people they should start so stop telling me i can't. We all breathe the same air i just choose to have smoke with mine. There are so many other things in the air worse then my smoke so you people are fooling yourself. No one tells people they need to stop eating. Being ugly. Wear ugly clothes. Fighting. Driving fast. People of all walks of life do or are these things years ago the government allowed me to smoke now they take it away. It's a freedom of choice and you non smokers have no right invading my life. I am sure there are things in your life that you should not being doing do i come to you and tell you to stop. No i don't... Non smokers took away my freedom and one day the government will take away from you and guess who won't be crying for you? Me.
  • laws on smoking ban.
    Where is the law on smoking ban in Indiana state. A Cigar shop allows young students to walk into the Cigar shops with their fathers and mothers and buy Cigars and also smoke Cigars in their stores, is that the law. Secondly very important, what is the age to smoke a Cigar, or a hokha inside their bars. There are Hokha bars in the state of Indiana where the age limit is written 18 years while the state laws says 21 or above. Will the law please strictly act and shut down these hokha bars, these are those hokaha bars where they have been given more than six to eight tickets, yet they are not following the law.
  • Xsmoker
    Making a comment about someone's weight and the food that is out there to eat and comparing to the harmful effects of smoking is so sad. There is No comparing the two. Take it from an xsmoker, Smoking DOES hurt people who don't smoke, someone eating a Big Mac and being over weight does NOT effect MY health in any way. Sitting next to someone eating fast food will not give me an illness. I quit in 1986 cold turkey and I can tell you I am glad I did. These many years that have passed I can tell (cause you can smell it) who smokes. I never knew I smelled when I smoked cause I couldn't smell it myself. I was the first one to get offensive if anybody said anything about my smoking. But now that I am an xsmoker I understand what they were talking about. Another thing that I did when I smoked was be considerate of others who didn't smoke, example : none of my friends smoked so when I go visiting I would not smoke inside OR outside thier home, had one friend who's daughter was highly allergic an sensitive to the smoke. My husbands friends ALL smoke and they could care less where they smoke on our property . I even have "No Smoking" signs posted but that don't do any good. The years have gone by and now I too am sensitive to smoke from cigs. So you see smoke does hurt other people, while a good meal someone eats with 1,0000 calories only hurts those who eat it. I didn't push my smoke on anybody when I smoked and I think people have a right to breath smoke free air. I thank God everyday I quit. How can you afford to smoke now a days, they are so expensive. When I quit smoking in 1986 cigs were .80 a pack, $8.00 a carton. They had just went up in price from .75 to .80 cents. I was furious, told my husband , "They go to $1.00 a pack we are quitting for sure, two days later we both had give them up for good and I haven't looked back.
  • Xsmoker
    Making a comment about someone's weight and the food that is out there to eat and comparing to the harmful effects of smoking is so sad. There is No comparing the two. Take it from an xsmoker, Smoking DOES hurt people who don't smoke, someone eating a Big Mac and being over weight does NOT effect MY health in any way. Sitting next to someone eating fast food will not give me an illness. I quit in 1986 cold turkey and I can tell you I am glad I did. These many years that have passed I can tell (cause you can smell it) who smokes. I never knew I smelled when I smoked cause I couldn't smell it myself. I was the first one to get offensive if anybody said anything about my smoking. But now that I am an xsmoker I understand what they were talking about. Another thing that I did when I smoked was be considerate of others who didn't smoke, example : none of my friends smoked so when I go visiting I would not smoke inside OR outside thier home, had one friend who's daughter was highly allergic an sensitive to the smoke. My husbands friends ALL smoke and they could care less where they smoke on our property . I even have "No Smoking" signs posted but that don't do any good. The years have gone by and now I too am sensitive to smoke from cigs. So you see smoke does hurt other people, while a good meal someone eats with 1,0000 calories only hurts those who eat it. I didn't push my smoke on anybody when I smoked and I think people have a right to breath smoke free air. I thank God everyday I quit. How can you afford to smoke now a days, they are so expensive. When I quit smoking in 1986 cigs were .80 a pack, $8.00 a carton. They had just went up in price from .75 to .80 cents. I was furious, told my husband , "They go to $1.00 a pack we are quitting for sure, two days later we both had give them up for good and I haven't looked back.
  • Really?
    I think it should be up to a business owner whether or not a person can smoke in a privately owned establishment. Wanna talk about health? why don't they start taxing big macs and twinkies, all junk food! a lot of obese people walking around out there. why aren't they doing anything about that?
    • Good
      Here is the deal, cigarette smoke causes health problems . Would it be permissable for me to walk up to another person and contaminate there air with some other substance that causes health problems? NO! So why do I have to put up with there smoke? It is confusing how people think, contaminating my air with there smoke is ok.
    • Effect on Business
      I'm waiting until the dust has cleared and the businesses of surrounding counties lament they've seen their business volume drop because everyone is crossing the county line [into Marion]. I predict a severe increase in the number of voluntary bans, including bars (or restaurants+bars) which realize they have three choices: a ban, drop the price, or go out of business. I also foresee a time when people try to put some numbers together (let's remember "lies, damned lies, and statistics") pointing out how many Indy places go under since the ban. They will have forgotten how many new ones open & flop because of the biggest reason any new business has a problem: undercapitalization; not to mention bars & restaurants, regardless of their history, find a need to shutter the doors. I'll consider such articles to have some degree of truth should they point out what normally would happen and point out the numbers of these situations. So far, it's been rather interesting when planning to dine, stop by the nearest smoking-infested restaurant/bar and ask, "do you put up with smoking?" "Yes." "Okay thanks. Tell your manager we're crossing the county line where enlightened people can breathe."
    • Devil's Advocate
      Meanwhile, in 1930's Germany: More than half of the Republic has a major public jew-ban in effect. It's time to move on from griping about it. It's done. It's the new norm. Get over it. And as I am sure with any new law enacted, there are many facets that go into putting the law into place. It's not just a flip of a light switch. I can personally say I have visited more establishments that have gone non-jew because of the jew-ban since it took effect and every single one of the employees I talked to said it had been a good thing. (PS, I hope you can see how poor of an argument this is)
    • Smoking ban a boon for small businesses
      Yes, I agree that it is time to stop griping. There is (another) upside to the smoking bans - it will be boon to small businesses. The folks that sell and install wallpaper and paint. The grimy, yellowed wallpaper and paint that has a thick coating of tar and nicotine HAS to be replaced, right? I do suppose that sign makers will also make $ of this too (sigh).
    • Get Over It
      Show me what kind of mind that says removing a health hazard violates property rights and I'll show you a lack of logical reasoning. Look down Bub! Did you just drop your butt and your pants caught on fire. I smell smoke.
    • Regulations to announce regulations
      So we have a statewide smoking ban and now every business is required by law to put up no smoking signs? Really?
    • Smoking Ban
      More than half of the US has a major public smoking-ban in effect. It's time to move on from griping about it. It's done. It's the new norm. Get over it. And as I am sure with any new law enacted, there are many facets that go into putting the law into place. It's not just a flip of a light switch. I can personally say I have visited more establishments that have gone non-smoking because of the smoking ban since it took effect June 1st and every single one of the employees I talked to said it had been a good thing.
      • Tax
        So not only are we trampling on property rights we are increasing business taxes as well. Congratulations Indiana Legislators. I will not be voting for anyone who passed this law.

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