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A Republican-controlled state Senate committee agreed Wednesday with the new Democratic state schools superintendent that Indiana's A-F grading scale for individual schools should be scrapped.

The unanimous vote by Senate Education Committee backing Superintendent Glenda Ritz on one of her top campaign issues last year came a day after a House committee approved a bill that would take away from her the administration of the state's private school voucher system.

The Senate bill would throw out the A-F grading system that was issued for the first time in 2011 and have the state Board of Education develop a new system for tracking school improvement.

About 60 percent of Indiana's more than 2,000 public and private schools received grades of A or B under scores released in October. Several educators testified Wednesday about instances where their schools had consistently high student test scores but received low grades because students hadn't shown enough improvement.

Ritz, who took office last month, told the committee that she believed using a single grade for schools wasn't effective when trying to track both student performance and whether they are improving. She said more than 100 schools had appealed their scores but that she couldn't give them clear answers on how the scores were determined.

"I'm in favor of reporting out the raw data rather than trying to find some way to combine the score into a grade," Ritz said. "I think we'll have the very same problem of trying to tell people what that grade really represents when we really do have to measure two different things."

The A-F scale was backed by Republican Superintendent Tony Bennett — whom Ritz defeated in the November election — despite widespread opposition from teachers and other groups, including the Indiana Chamber of Commerce.

No one defended the grading system during Wednesday's hearing on the bill to repeal it.

"I've concluded that the current model is flawed and doesn't do what it was intended to do," said Sen. Jim Banks, R-Columbia City.

The bill now goes to the full Senate for consideration.

Ritz's friendly reception on Wednesday followed a contentious House education committee meeting on Tuesday during which Republican legislators pushed through a bill that would move the handling of applications for private school vouchers from the Department of Education to an agency under Republican Gov. Mike Pence.

The House committee chairman cited Ritz's opposition to the voucher program that legislators adopted in 2011 and her involvement in a lawsuit challenging the law that's awaiting a ruling from the state Supreme Court.

Ritz said Wednesday she didn't believe she should be treated differently than any previous state superintendent. She said she would follow her oath of office and properly implement any laws regardless of her personal feelings.

"I hope in the end that I'm afforded the same oversight capabilities and processes that are in place and have been in place many, many years," Ritz said.

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  • Students must be graded!
    Grading lets both the student and parents know whether the student is performing up to his/her potential--gives them goals to shoot for and if not met, the parents can make an informed decision as to how to properly motivate the student to do better! We are currently under performing world wide in our schools, taking away grading the student will be just one more step towards mediocrity!
  • Here's why A-F doesn't work
    Concerned Parent: Are you involved with the school or the PTA/PTO? Do you know the details behind "The A-F" grading? I think we can all agree that A-F itself could work in theory - although I like the 5 star, or Blue Ribbon or whatever, but you're missing the point. The point is that "The A-F" scale used didn't work. Look at the schools that appealed and their scenarios. Here's an example: Your child takes a test at the beginning of semester to access math abilities, of which he/she scored a B+. Then at the end of the semester, your child takes the same test based on what they should know at the end of the semester and scores a B+ again. Your child has still learned and still "above average" if you will. But too bad. The school gets a D grade because your child has shown no improvement from a B+ to a B+. Or another example with a child who goes from an F to a C. His efforts would award the school an A because of improvement. Maybe the school is an A, or maybe the entire school is performing at a C, so it's not really an "A" school. Again, the point is that there are 2 measurement components and the system used didn't work.
  • Adults vs. Children
    A - F for schools is ridiculous and meaningless. Since when are teachers and students on the same level. Tony Bennett was really juvenile, and I feel for the teachers in FL who are saddled with this guy. I'd like to see the one - five star system that hotels use - easy to relate to simplified system. And, the "report card" should not be on the same plane as the children's.
  • Hypocrites
    "I hope in the end that I'm afforded the same oversight capabilities and processes that are in place and have been in place many, many years," But we all know she won't.
  • Keep Improved A-F System
    My children are graded on a A-F system and that same accountability system should work for the schools also, if properly implemented. They just need to make the scoring system simple, transparent & fair. Lets be honest, Tony Bennett played games with the scoring for political reasons and simply was overwhelmed with the embarrassing problems exposed by having a objective accountability for both rural & urban school districts. Dont Move Backwards. The old government system of school accessment was intentionally obscure & useless as a tool for improvement for administrators and parents.

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