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Indiana agencies told to ignore gay marriages

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Indiana Gov. Mike Pence's office is telling state agencies act as if no gay marriages had been performed last month during three days following a federal court order that found the state's same-sex marriage ban unconstitutional.

The memo from the governor's chief counsel tells executive branch agencies to execute their functions as though the June 25 court order had not been issued.

A federal judge in Indianapolis struck down the state's gay marriage ban as unconstitutional that day, leading to hundreds of same-sex marriages around the state. But an appeals court stayed that ruling three days later after an appeal from the state attorney general's office.

The governor's office told agencies to recognize the out-of-state marriage of Amy Sandler and Nikole Quasney of Munster, in line with the appellate court order. Quasney is dying of ovarian cancer.

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  • civil union
    Marriage is a religious sacrement ... civil / legal unions pertain to the various desires expressed by many in this debate. There is big difference between your civil right and my religious rite. Both are addressed in the constitution.
  • Pence Is A Throwback to the 1950s
    Pence might have been good for the 1950s but he is lacking leadership for the 21st century. Like many politicians, he lets politics (and religion) trump good public policy. I can't wait to vote against him in the next election.
  • Daniel Not Getting It
    The founders of this nation specifically envisioned a clear separation of church and state: "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” -- George Washington If you don't get that, then you have absolutely no business debating this issue.
  • Daniel misses the point
    Daniel, you missed my point (no surprise). As many others have posted, there should be no mixing church(any religion)laws with state laws according to the US Constitution.
  • That's not how it work.
    Hey Pence, you remind me of that commercial on TV: "That's how it works, that's not how any of this works". I hope the agencies give him a nice big middle finger.
  • Daniel is so smart
    What about atheists? What about the many religions that DO practice acceptance of all people? Is there no place in America for them?
  • religions
    the major religions of the world "generally" do not condone homo-sexuality. Islam and other religions are violently oppossed to homosexual activity and punish those who practice it severally.
    • law
      While this law may be held unconstitutional by the Court of Appeals (and maybe even the Supreme Court); isn't the law (the Same-Sex Marriage Ban) still in place? is that how it works while the appeal court does their thing. I agree the ban is antiquated and should be fixed by the law making body (legislature) but isn't the legal advice technically correct? Lawyers out there?
    • Keep religious views out of state decisions
      Daniel - what about the many US citizens who do NOT follow what the Bible teaches? The Hindus, Jews, Muslims and others who are all American citizens entitled to all rights as Americans?? This issue has NOTHING to do with "What the Bible says..." Keep all Churches separate from State! Pence's ongoing idiocy continues to make Indiana look like a backwards, homophobic state in the eyes of our nation. Can't we move on to bigger issues - like educating our kids?
      • constitution
        Joe ... Marriage is defined in the Bible ... it is mentioned in the Bible often. Marriage is not mentioned once in the US or Indiana Constitution ...
        • Daniel's Definition of Marriage
          Daniel - Educate me please: what does the Bible have to do with laws? If the government wasn't in the business of marriage to begin with, then it wouldn't have to "define" marriage at all. Marriage could be left as a personal, religious, or otherwise unregulated action, with no ties to taxes, legal status, etc. Then people could marry whomever they want, and all this silliness would go away. Remember to vote Libertarian in November.
          • definition of marriage
            The definition of marriage is clearly defined in the Bible. if you wish to debate the definition of marriage ... I suggest all possible marital arrangments be given equal consideration ... if 2 men are defined as a legal marrige ... why not 3 women? or 1 man and 2 women? should any arrangement be acceptable now that you've determine that the original definition is open to debate?
            • nick's take on rick
              Rick: You and your neocon friends' crusade against equal rights and homosexuality is embarrassing and homophobic. As for activist Judges - How soon will you be asking your buddy Alito to activate voting rights for corporations? Samuel Alito is by far the most activist and tyrannical judge in the history of the US now penning and sanctioning rights of corporations that do not exist in the Constitution or in law. I wish you, your candidates and judges the same fate awarded all discriminatory office holders. And, to think, you want smaller government.? No, you just want government to regulate gays, pregnant women, and cater to special interests. Why don't you leave government out of all of these issues and allow people their own privacy and pursuit of happiness.? You don't have to agree with them or like them, you just have to believe in Liberty and Freedom. You can even say whatever you want. And, when you have a moment, read the first few sentences of the Indiana Constitution. The first section will teach you why a ban on gay marriage is unlawful and why your boy Pence desperately seeks an amendment. Keep your church out of my State.
            • Deportation
              Can we deport Pence?
            • Thank you Governor
              I want to thank Governor Pence and his Chief Legal Counsel for doing the right thing and taking a firm stand.
              • Um, ok.
                Paranoia and conspiracy theories. Really? Ever stop and think that, as gay marriage bans are struck down, state by state (even Kentucky didn't appeal), as unconstitutional, someone may have had the good sense to have correctly predicted what would happen? My guess is no, you didn't. Too logical. Everyone is entitled to equal rights. If not, then get ready for the consequences of that...for example, taxes. If gay people don't have the EXACT SAME rights as everyone else, then should they be expected to pay taxes based on the same formula applied to everyone?
              • hardly activism
                Rick - not a single judge has ruled in favor of these anti same sex marriage laws. Even Alito (not my favorite legal role model) upheld a judgement yesterday. I think you guys need to give up on the "activist" title and realize that the laws are just bigoted.
              • No Activism????
                If activism was not at play, please tell me why: 1)the case was filed in the 10th to begin with (Clinton appointee by the way) 2) within 15 minutes of the ruling, people were lined up at clerk's offices 3) Clerks' offices were already coordinated - with staffing ready to handle extended hours? 4) Clerks had the ability to handle larger amounts of applications than they would on any other given day of the year? This sure has all the appearances of a planned event. I've seen planned events come off much less smoothly than this one.
              • Seriously Rick?
                "Activist" judges? Their job is to uphold the US Constitution which guarantees equal rights for all citizens. A difficult concept, I'm sure, for you to understand, but these judges are doing their job, and will ultimately smack down Pence's incompetent move. Sorry.
              • BRAVO
                Good. Those "marriages" never should have happened to begin with. Activists judges must be impeached.
              • Stop the Clown Show
                This clown won in 2012 by a small margin...I hope Hoosier voters remember every ounce of his incompetence, wastefulness and uselessness in 2016.
              • Pence the legal scholar...
                Not a great example of the quality of an IU legal degree, is it.
              • Mike Pence
                Mike Pence = George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. I hope history looks back on this repulsive man as negatively as it does on George Wallace.
              • What a waste
                How much money and resources will this state waste trying to prevent the inevitable?
              • Great Question !!!
                Politicians like Pence tried to prevent women from voting 90 years ago and blacks from voting 40 years ago. History and public opinion will make politicians like Pence a disgraced "has been" and I look forward to their downfall.
              • As a taxpayer...
                As a taxpayer, I am Mike Pence's boss. So I am telling the state agencies to ignore Mike Pence's order, and act like no Mike Pence memo has been issued.
              • Not Surprised
                Governor Mike Pence is a bigot and quite possibly the worst governor this state has ever had. Now he will waste even more of our money fighting a battle AGAINST EQUALITY that HE will never win. Thank you, governor, for protecting the interests of only those Hoosiers who fit your ideal.
              • Refunds?
                So will the state refund their money? Because if none of this happened... then the state didn't get that money.

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