IBJNews

Kittle: Gay marriage talks misstated by Bosma

Back to TopCommentsE-mailPrintBookmark and Share

A former chairman of the Indiana Republican Party said Tuesday that he never promised "unlimited" campaign funds to make the proposed constitutional ban on gay marriage go away, but rather offered to support lawmakers if they opposed the ban.

Jim Kittle, a prolific fundraiser in Indiana Republican circles, said he twice met with and tried to convince House Speaker Brian Bosma that the ban shouldn't be considered this session but that he never offered unlimited funds. Bosma has repeatedly said he was offered unlimited money in the heat of the debate if he would pull the issue from consideration, but he has refused to say who made the offer.

Kittle, who opposed the ban, told The Associated Press that he met with the legislative leader at Bosma's law office, once before the session and again shortly after the session started. He said Bosma expressed concerns that some House Republicans could face strong primary election fights if they opposed the ban.

"To offer support to individual legislators if they do happen to get primaried or they're running certainly is not illegal, immoral or anything else," Kittle said. "I respect the fact that Brian's got himself kind of in a jam here. He misjudged what was happening, period, on this."

At the start of the fight in January, Bosma said he had rejected an offer of "unlimited" funds to make the ban "go away." He said at the time that he was concerned it might violate state and federal law.

But, last week, Bosma said he believed nothing criminal was meant by the offer. Bosma spokeswoman Tory Flynn declined comment Tuesday, referring to Bosma's comments last week.

Indiana lawmakers approved an altered version of the proposed amendment this year, meaning it won't make the November ballot. In Indiana, a proposed constitutional amendment must twice be approved by the Legislature, unchanged and in consecutive legislative sessions, in order to appear on the ballot.

The move marked a surprise victory for opponents of the gay-marriage ban just three years after lawmakers overwhelmingly supported the ban.

Kittle played a key role in helping find support for Freedom Indiana, the umbrella group which successfully kept the marriage ban off the November ballot.

The National Organization for Marriage, a national group opposing gay marriage, requested an investigation by Attorney General Greg Zoeller in a letter sent Tuesday.

"The only way to determine if a crime has been committed is to conduct a thorough and unbiased investigation into the matter and report the findings publicly," the group's chairman, John Eastman, wrote.

Zoeller spokesman Bryan Corbin said his office had not seen the request yet, but noted that the assertions made by the group would not fall under the jurisdiction of the attorney general.

Kittle, the owner of the Kittle's Furniture retail chain, was state GOP chairman from 2002 to 2006.

ADVERTISEMENT

  • definition
    since you have determined that the definition of marriage can be redefined ... I presume you would be OK if 3 committed gays and/or 3 committed lesbians decided to "get married"? After all ... marriage is whatever someone wants to define it as...
  • Stop that!
    Dear Preston, Jim F....please stop trying to apply logic when debating with Lee...Lee's tossing around of the terms "moral" and "natural" is code for "you are immoral and unnatural if you don't think exactly the way I do"...no matter how many ways you go about it, you can never convince people like Lee that they are wrong, because he prefers his uninformed viewpoint to your more enlightened, less judgemental one. Facts and logic only confuse the issue for him, so he won't consider them for long, if at all. “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” ? Isaac Asimov
  • Can We Simply Send Kittle and Bosma to Another State, How About Arizona?
    Lee - Morality is not defined by ones' sexuality. Indiana needs to move away from the marriage amendment and repeal the marriage law and move into at least the 20th century.
  • Dear Lee...
    Based upon your argument, could you please expound on what, exactly, should happen to those straight couples who are either unwilling or unable to "procreate"? For example, I was adopted since my mother (OK, adopted mother) was unable to conceive. Logically, then, following your thought processes, if a couple is unable or unwilling to bring forth a child from their conjugal coupling, they should not receive all of the benefits of marriage??? Just asking...
    • So the delay will allow the liberals to Winn by continually beating on the doors of legally and forever permanently not recognizing gay marriage
      The problem is that legislation against gay marriage in Indiana is not permanent. The excuse is monetary and not moral and that only a man and woman can be married and same sex is not natural. If it were they could propagate naturally which they cannot. Aside from adoption or artificial means they cannot produce children which means it is not natural.

      Post a comment to this story

      COMMENTS POLICY
      We reserve the right to remove any post that we feel is obscene, profane, vulgar, racist, sexually explicit, abusive, or hateful.
       
      You are legally responsible for what you post and your anonymity is not guaranteed.
       
      Posts that insult, defame, threaten, harass or abuse other readers or people mentioned in IBJ editorial content are also subject to removal. Please respect the privacy of individuals and refrain from posting personal information.
       
      No solicitations, spamming or advertisements are allowed. Readers may post links to other informational websites that are relevant to the topic at hand, but please do not link to objectionable material.
       
      We may remove messages that are unrelated to the topic, encourage illegal activity, use all capital letters or are unreadable.
       

      Messages that are flagged by readers as objectionable will be reviewed and may or may not be removed. Please do not flag a post simply because you disagree with it.

      Sponsored by
      ADVERTISEMENT

      facebook - twitter on Facebook & Twitter

      Follow on TwitterFollow IBJ on Facebook:
      Follow on TwitterFollow IBJ's Tweets on these topics:
       
      Subscribe to IBJ
      1. Uh, sorry Johnnie, but you are incorrect. Despite the assertions by yourself and various defenders and captains, sports attendance is NOT off significantly at most sporting events in the US. Variances in attendance has been in the range of single digits, both + & - for years now. MLB has had most of its best overall attendance nubers in the last decade, and that trend has been consistent for most major sporting events. The number one issue cited by most fans when asked about attendance is the overall cost of attending. The presence of HD and big screen televisions in home doesn't even register, as a factor for not attending an event. VALUE in the product is the key, and apparently is something lacking in the current ICS. What other explanation is there when with what is routinely touted as the "best" racing on the planet, fans are staying away in DROVES. A "close" title battle into the last event at Fontana, with the "cars and stars" of the ICS, and who showed up? MAYBE 8K. Sorry, but HD TV isn't to blame for that kind of fan apathy.

      2. Do you need finance to establish your business ? Are you interested in getting a loan at 3% from our private company? If so please Email: suntrust_oil@blumail.org

      3. If she was worth the $ the public outcry over direct tv dropping them would have kept them on their dishes as we have seen with other companies. I too quit watching channel 13 after she showed up since I left channel 8 because of her all show rather than production results. When Randy on 8 corrected her she had a big head and incorrectly challenged his correction for pronunciation of a city. Other antics while she matures was too much for me with her very inaccurate forecasts. All the forecasters were predicting rain until Thursday except Chris. They predicted sunny on Thursday but instead of rain until Thursday upon which the sun would finally make it out in full glory Chris was right on the money just as I too predicted looking at the radar on weather.gov. One thing I love about Angela is the fear you can see in her every time it thunders in the winter. It far exceeds the entertainment value of her body language (high heel noise drags, depression, etc) when her forecasts are so incorrect. Her hair stands on end, you have to see it!!!

      4. Good Day, Apply For A Loan I am Mr Fernadez Antonio, a private Loan lender and a cooperate financial for real estate and any kinds of business financing. I also offer Loans to individuals, Firms and cooperate bodies at 3% interest rate We offer any kind of loans. email us via fernadezloaninvest@outlook.com LOAN APPLICATION FORM First name:......................... Middle name:......................... Last name:........................................ Date of birth (yyyy-mm-dd):....................... Gender:........................................... Marital status:................................... Total Amount Needed............................... Loan Duration.................................... Address:.......................................... City:............................................. State/province:................................... Zip/postal code:.................................. Country:.......................................... Phone:............................................ Fax:.............................................. Mobile/cellular:.................................. Monthly Income.................................... Occupation:....................................... Best Regard, Mr Fernadez Antonio.

      5. i will love to share my testimony to you all the people in world i got married to my husband about 2 year ago we start having problems at home like we stop sleeping on the same bed,fighting about little things he always comes home late at night,drinking too much and sleeping with other women out side i have never love any man in my life except him. he is the father of my child and i don't want to loose him because we have worked so hard together to become what we are and have today .few month ago he now decided to live me and the kid,being a single mother can be hard sometimes and so i have nobody to turn to and i was heart broken.i called my mom and explain every thing to her,my mother told me about DR.okoro how he helped her solve the problem between her and my dad i was surprise about it because they have been without each other for three and a half years and it was like a miracle how they came back to each other. i was directed to DR. okoro on his email:okorospell@gmail.com and explain everything to him,so he promise me not to worry that he will cast a spell and make things come back to how we where so much in love again and that it was another female spirit that was controlling my husband he told me that my problem will be solved within two days if i believe i said OK So he cast a spell for me and after two days my love came back asking me to forgive him i Am so happy now. so that why i decided to share my experience with every body that have such problem contact Dr okoro the great spell caster on his email addresses spellcasterforlove@outlook.com

      ADVERTISEMENT