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IBM: Indiana canceled deal because of budget woes

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The real reason Indiana canceled its nearly $1.4 billion contract with IBM for a troubled welfare automation system was state budget problems, a lawyer for the computer giant argued Tuesday. But the state said IBM was more concerned about profit than getting assistance to needy people.

Both sides traded jabs during five hours of closing arguments before Marion Superior Court Judge David Dreyer, who is considering dueling lawsuits in the case. Gov. Mitch Daniels canceled IBM's privatization contract in 2009 amid complaints about long wait times on calls, lost documents and improper rejections from clients and federal officials.

Indiana had sued for the $437 million it paid the company, but Dreyer capped the damages the state could seek at $125 million. IBM is seeking about $100 million that the company claims it's still owed.

IBM attorney Steve McCormick said the Armonk, N.Y.-based computer company simply gave the state officials what they wanted: Switching from in-person visits at county welfare offices to taking applications online and via remote call centers.

"The problems were inherent in the system that the state chose," McCormick said.

But John Maley, one of the attorneys hired to represent the state, said IBM simply didn't live up to its end of the billion-dollar deal. He said the company repeatedly failed to hit benchmarks that it agreed to meet, then blamed its failures on a surge in applications due to the economic downturn and the floods that displaced thousands of people in 2008.

"IBM said it would be accountable when it sold modernization to the state, but now it offers excuses," Maley said. "It's time for IBM to finally be held accountable."

He said IBM failed to process applications in a timely manner, which he said was its primary obligation under the 2006 contract. He said IBM didn't devote enough resources to provide the service it had promised, and cited a company executive's testimony that IBM couldn't shirk its fiduciary responsibilities."

So the shareholders trump a million needy Hoosiers," Maley said.

McCormick said timeliness wasn't even mentioned in the contract. The main goal, he said, was to free welfare applicants from the chore of traveling to a county welfare office, and a secondary goal was to save the state money in administrative costs. He played audio of Daniels announcing at a 2009 news conference that the automated system had saved the state $40 million.

McCormick said the state never complained until it decided to break off the deal, and he said internal emails showed that state officials were planning behind the scenes to ditch IBM months before Daniels cancelled the contract in October 2009.

That was about the same time Daniels ordered state agencies to cut spending in the wake of multimillion-dollar revenue shortfalls.

"They terminated the contract because of their budget problems," McCormick said.

Dreyer is not expected to rule for several weeks.

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  • News
    I seem to remember news casts, prior to dropping IBM, stating that the IBM system was declining welfare applications and the persons applying for said same were threatening lawsuits against the state, via the federal government for discrimination.

    To rephrase the problem noted on comments it is the unemotional computer program vs. the emotional decision of entitlements approved by caseworkers.
  • "Consultant"
    It seems to me that IBM failed at the job of being both a "consultant" and a "supplier". Whatever happened to the high road, where the customer comes first? We always enjoyed competing with IBM and other large companies that pounded their chest, made all of the nice sounding promises, very often over committing, and in the end, always blamed the customer for Big Blue's own short comings and failures. This trial is like watching a rerun from long ago, with the plot never changing, and the customer getting the blame. We have Corporate America (IBM) vs. the Republican Leadership of Indiana. This is better than Final Four Tickets.
  • Still Problems
    Got news for you. IBM isn't the only problem. ACS (or whatever they're calling themselves these days) have just continued the LOUSY practices that have been established and there are just as many problems and complaints today. With no assigned caseworkers there is no accountability to see that work gets done in a timely manner. Documentation gets sent to some black hole fax number or email address and is never seen again.

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  1. The Fringe! Plus, the simple fact that there are so many local faves in such close proximity to each other.

  2. I remenber, watching the toll road, being built, through South Bend, when I was 10 years old. I believe, back then that it was estimated, that the toll road, would be paid for in 20 years and then it would be free. I am now 71, what happened? Since the power is in the people, by that, I mean that, we the people are in total control of everything. I, suggest that no one ever use the toll road again, let it go broke. We the people can control the price of everything, from groceries to gas, if we would just do it. If we don't pay the asking price, the sellers will lower the price and if we wait awhile, they will lower the price to what we accept as reasonable. I would like to know why a highway like interstate 94, is so well maintained, a much better highway, than the toll road, but has no tolls. I would also like to know why, a sitting governor, with a term limit, maximum of eight years, can lease, public property, for 75 years. Even though I have transponders in both of my trucks and will not be affected by the increase, I have been and will contine to avoid using the toll road. I make many trips from northern Indiana to Chicago, every year, and I prefer the better highway, I94!

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  4. I'm still waiting for the list of available, high quality apartments in the Village.

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